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impossible 05-23-2016 10:58 PM

I replaced both because why not and me and my mechanic noticed the passenger side had a little side to side when mounted onto the joint connection that's bolted to the block that the passenger outer axle connected to but we didn't see if the OEM passenger axle (was still in good condition) had any give like the DTA passenger axle. So far 3mo of plenty of abuse on low power and still holding strong.

ryguy 3 05-24-2016 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by impossible (Post 3056493)
I replaced both because why not and me and my mechanic noticed the passenger side had a little side to side when mounted onto the joint connection that's bolted to the block that the passenger outer axle connected to but we didn't see if the OEM passenger axle (was still in good condition) had any give like the DTA passenger axle. So far 3mo of plenty of abuse on low power and still holding strong.

So did your DTA axles looked smaller than the oem units aswell?

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btstarcher 05-24-2016 07:00 AM

I thought they looked thicker.

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865ms3 05-24-2016 07:34 AM

Mine were smaller.

We will see how they hold up to 570hp launches on drag radials this weekend

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WetzMS3 05-24-2016 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 865ms3 (Post 3056551)
Mine were smaller.

We will see how they hold up to 570hp launches on drag radials this weekend

:)


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O rly??

Good luck sir!

865ms3 05-24-2016 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WetzMS3 (Post 3056553)
O rly??



Good luck sir!



Never been to the track. So don't expect anything but embarrassment lol.


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WetzMS3 05-24-2016 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 865ms3 (Post 3056558)
Never been to the track. So don't expect anything but embarrassment lol.


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What radials?

865ms3 05-24-2016 09:19 AM

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What radials?



Just some nt555 drag radials


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Mazdazilla6 05-24-2016 09:37 AM

Well I shot DTA an email about ms6 rear axles. We'll see what they say.

ChaunceyM 05-24-2016 09:53 AM

I can't confirm the passenger side, but the driver side was identical. Here's a side-by-side.
The axle held up for track day #1 with no issues. I'm going to try to re-build the OEM so I have a backup (and for shits and giggles).

As John found out, the only issue noted so far is that the inner joint is only held together by the boot. I take care when installing so you don't have that joint fall apart.

[IMG]http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/a...psqyghzju0.jpg[/IMG]

MD1032 05-24-2016 10:27 AM

Yeah, you literally need to bungee cord or strap the hub to the LCA while putting the strut and everything back together, just an FYI. The inner joint comes apart super easily.

Like ChaunceyM I have had zero issues with mine so far otherwise. When I had mine side-by-side, they were identical length.

865ms3 05-24-2016 10:31 AM

I guess I should clarify. My passenger side was smaller.


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WetzMS3 05-24-2016 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 865ms3 (Post 3056580)
Just some nt555 drag radials


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Get it guuurrrllll

Nitro 05-25-2016 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaunceyM (Post 3056595)
I can't confirm the passenger side, but the driver side was identical. Here's a side-by-side.
The axle held up for track day #1 with no issues. I'm going to try to re-build the OEM so I have a backup (and for shits and giggles).

As John found out, the only issue noted so far is that the inner joint is only held together by the boot. I take care when installing so you don't have that joint fall apart.

[IMG]http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/a...psqyghzju0.jpg[/IMG]

Was the oem inner joint only held together by the boot?

MD1032 05-25-2016 05:15 AM

Probably because these axles are cheap as fuck.

ChaunceyM 05-25-2016 07:24 AM

No, the OEM inner joint is held together quiet firmly. I just yanked on the axle itself to pop it out of the tranny.
I've never done an axle swap before, but from what I've read/heard, that is not always the case. Often they are only held together by the boot as there is not supposed to be any strain applied in that direction. Only to get it out of the tranny.

Cheapspeed 05-25-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 865ms3 (Post 3056580)
Just some nt555 drag radials


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I had them on the k04. You'll still spin the hell out of em.

865ms3 05-29-2016 09:27 PM

Pass side does not like a dead hook launchhttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...0f9b3c72e0.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...8efff922af.jpg


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Nitro 05-29-2016 10:39 PM

Is that passenger side alot smaller in diameter than the oem 865ms3?

865ms3 05-29-2016 10:42 PM

Yup


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daafisch 07-12-2016 12:10 PM

I was on sellers eBay store and noticed that they now have a driver side axle listed specifically for Gen2's but it's almost $40 more. Any of the Pu's that installed the drivers side are you having issues? I wonder what could possibly make it $40 more...

I have a torn boot and a bad wheel bearing on the drivers side so I figured I'd replace this when I do the wheel bearing.

MD1032 07-12-2016 12:44 PM

@daafisch; you can just call them up and ask. They've been very helpful and informative the few times I've called them.

daafisch 07-12-2016 02:12 PM

Maybe, I sent them a message on eBay and they just told me "the techs said it deserved a different listing"

ryguy 3 07-12-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by daafisch (Post 3068815)
Maybe, I sent them a message on eBay and they just told me "the techs said it deserved a different listing"

Make sure you get the DTA MZ 2313 driver side axle and the DTA MZ 2302 for the passenger side.

I was sent a DTA MZ 2301 which is for a Mazda 3 not the speed3.

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Tomas 08-21-2016 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by daafisch (Post 3068815)
Maybe, I sent them a message on eBay and they just told me "the techs said it deserved a different listing"

This is bullshit.
Also what would like to know what the difference is. The gen1 and gen2 axles should be exactly the same no?

ChaunceyM 08-22-2016 02:28 PM

I'm sure they are, but they needed a way to charge more. From the listings I saw, the "Gen2" axles were sold as singles and the same price as a pair of "Gen1" axles. Which is why I have a brand new DTA passenger side axle sitting in a box in the garage.

daafisch 08-29-2016 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaunceyM (Post 3077105)
I'm sure they are, but they needed a way to charge more. From the listings I saw, the "Gen2" axles were sold as singles and the same price as a pair of "Gen1" axles. Which is why I have a brand new DTA passenger side axle sitting in a box in the garage.

I did the same thing. Bought the pair and now have a passenger side sitting in the box.

blackms3_71 08-29-2016 09:11 PM

I would buy someones pass axle for the gen 1

BLKspd5 08-29-2016 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by daafisch (Post 3068787)
I was on sellers eBay store and noticed that they now have a driver side axle listed specifically for Gen2's but it's almost $40 more. Any of the Pu's that installed the drivers side are you having issues? I wonder what could possibly make it $40 more...

I have a torn boot and a bad wheel bearing on the drivers side so I figured I'd replace this when I do the wheel bearing.

I noticed that too, but I spent the extra $40 and it fit fine on my 13' PU. Sorry a little late on the response.

va7kpt 11-18-2016 11:20 PM

I'm in need of a passenger side axel as well.

Seems like they're sold in pairs, and the passenger axel isn't available on it's own. There are some vendors that claim to be selling the ms3 passenger axel, but say it also fits the regular 3 :dunno:
I already purchased the drivers axel on it's own last year when the boot started leaking.

shamie 12-02-2016 04:03 PM

Just put a driver's side on. We'll see how it handles the track.

va7kpt 04-05-2017 12:36 PM

Any update on this axel?

shamie 04-06-2017 10:34 AM

I thrashed on it 3 track days (11 twenty minute sessions) last month (March) and its holding up fine. It does rust faster than the OEM but who really cares?

3 more track days planned later this month (April).

Performed fine again. They seem to be legit.

shamie 08-14-2017 09:37 AM

Update - 15 track days (over fifty 20 minute sessions) and going strong. 8 more track days this year - knock on wood.

If it does go I may try the one on Rock Auto (SURTRACK/TRAKMOTIVE MZ8171) - even cheaper!

Franky-5-Fingaz 08-30-2017 10:18 AM

Good to see that most people's DTA axles are still holding up. I plan on purchasing the pair for my 2012, not going to spend the $40 extra for the Gen 2 version if it's the exact same thing.

shamie 08-30-2017 11:53 AM

Go VIP - there's a pair in the FS section.

shamie 09-18-2017 08:10 AM

I found out how many licks to the center of the tootsie roll pop;

19 track days (over seventy 20 minute sessions) and the inner boot ripped and sprayed grease everywhere. It still got me home 60 miles away with minimal noise.

I ordered this one from Rock Auto (SURTRACK/TRAKMOTIVE MZ8171) to replace it. We shall see how it holds up.

tdale 06-13-2018 03:27 PM

My turn! Haha. If the pu axel for 118 isn't any thicker than the set for 140 I'll be buying the set for my pu. I have my clicky clicky clicky when turning left and after I put a tire with more meat on it i def noticed it got louder. Thankfully the speed isn't my daily and i can park.

Before i buy tho any of you want to sell your dta pass on your shelf?

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tdale 06-15-2018 03:10 PM

I emailed the axelstore and they told me the passenger RH 2010 to 2013 is half an inch longer then the one in the set for 140.

Can a gen 2 guy confirm this is a lie?

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