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Speed3FTW 06-19-2009 03:40 PM

70% ABS PedD
 
I have this thread over in another section but I thought I'd put it up here too.

When I'm at WOT, my ABS PedD PID only goes to 70% and wont go any further. Is this normal, or is my car limited to only 70% throttle. Does anyone out there see 100% for this PID at WOT?

phillyb 06-19-2009 03:44 PM

MazdaSPEED3 FullControl™ Flash

MZRDISI4 06-19-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phaillyb (Post 250455)

This is not for that, this is for the gas pedal. It's only showing a requested (pedal input) of only 70, when you put it to the floor it should say 100 but it will do it's own thing at the actual throttle plate.

phillyb 06-19-2009 04:10 PM

i thought the fcf opened the throttle plate

MZRDISI4 06-19-2009 04:13 PM

It does remap everything but this is more about the DBW input rather than the throttle itself.

OP what gear? All?

phillyb 06-19-2009 04:14 PM

http://www.cp-e.com/imgs/SP3fcfthrottle_big.jpg

aaronc7 06-19-2009 04:16 PM

some of the DH parameters are weird.....i dont know off the top of my head but that might be the wrong one for accel pedal position..or maybe the DH just scales it weird/wrong. Sorry this isnt more helpful, lol

MZRDISI4 06-19-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phaillyb (Post 250474)
[img]http://www.cp-e.com/imgs/SP3fcfthrottle_big.jpg[img]

Not sure what you're getting at..? Anyhow besides the fact that the gas pedal is only showing 7X% the actual throttle position never even goes in to 80% which is not right. The gas pedal also does not show 100% requested throttle, just 70%. I don't have my dashhawk anymore but it should show 100% requested pedal throttle and 8X% from 3000-5500rpm then it closes up..

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaronc7 (Post 250475)
some of the DH parameters are weird.....i dont know off the top of my head but that might be the wrong one for accel pedal position..or maybe the DH just scales it weird/wrong. Sorry this isnt more helpful, lol

Yeah I forgot the exact PID's and the scaling could be different

OP should take a log of the pedal position and absolute throttle position as well and post it here.

phillyb 06-19-2009 04:30 PM

i don't think i understand anything in this thread

Speed3FTW 06-19-2009 04:31 PM

This happens in every gear. I did a pull in 4th to 5500, got to 70% and wouldn't get any higher than that, even with my foot smashing the pedal to the floor. This is the pedal distance PID. ABS PedD. The Absolute throttle PID also shows it capping between 65-70%...much underneath CPE's reading of ~92% cap.

I imagine it is a DH issue, but I wanted to check with you guys to see if you're seeing 100% for this PID. Because if you are, something is wrong with my DBW system.

I'll do a log as well.

aaronc7 06-19-2009 04:34 PM

im sure you're fine.... we're not even sure what the PID is measuring or if the scaling is right.

phantom6294 06-19-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaronc7 (Post 250475)
some of the DH parameters are weird.....i dont know off the top of my head but that might be the wrong one for accel pedal position..or maybe the DH just scales it weird/wrong. Sorry this isnt more helpful, lol

I've played around with the DH and find there are quite a few Throttle related PIDs that never seem to sync up.

Regarding Pedal Position, aaronc7 is right, there should a PID called "Actual Pedal Position" under the Mazda specific parameters. This should sync up to what you're actually doing with the gas pedal.

phillyb 06-19-2009 06:29 PM

word, i log that. shit shows 100% when you floor it. throttle plate is still closing though

Speed3FTW 06-19-2009 07:06 PM

Yeah, there are a bunch...its quite confusing and I think I was wrong thinking that the ABS PedlD was the proper PID for the gas pedal. I logged every one of them except the mazda specific one on my way home (I didn't know there was one in that menu). All show caps at 60-70%....trying to figure out how to get my DH to store a log on XP (with a helpful thread)....and once I do, I'll get it up here.

But I'm sure the Mazda specific one will show the 100% I am looking for. Damn, I was hoping that there was an issue and I still had 30% pedal left. Getting that back would have yielded one giant kick in the pants to the butt dyno.

phillyb 06-19-2009 07:08 PM

you have 30% throttle left...

Speed3FTW 06-19-2009 07:11 PM

I'm not sure if I do or not based upon what others have reported. I don't think these PIDs show 100% even for those with a CPE Full Throttle Control Flash or an AP tune.

If I do, I want it back from my stubborn, overprotective mother of an ECU!

phillyb 06-19-2009 07:13 PM

i thought it was pretty common knowledge that the throttle plate was closing early on these cars

phillyb 06-19-2009 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phaillyb (Post 250484)
i don't think i understand anything in this thread

now after reading more, i do understand what op was asking and what the answers are. lol

phillyb 06-19-2009 07:14 PM

merge

Speed3FTW 06-19-2009 07:46 PM

Confirmed...

The Mazda Specific PID "Actual Pedal Position" produced a reading of 100%. Thanks for the advice.


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