ACT 6 PUCK Longevity Thread

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by I gotthatzumzum I wouldn't really classify it as being stuck in traffic a lot (compared to LA or New York, or something crazy like that) but I am in bumper to bumper traffic for at least 5-10 minutes at least once a day, sometimes twice. Why do you have to go 6 puck either way? Their site shows a listing for a single sprung disc, visually similar to stock...

When I say bumper to bumper, I mean 30 min to 2 hours each way ...

The stock looking clutch plate is the one that fails, miserabley, often, and quickly.

I have more than 30k with my 6 puck and it still grabs like a mofo.

[I gotthatzumzum]

Originally Posted by himurax13 When I say bumper to bumper, I mean 30 min to 2 hours each way ... The stock looking clutch plate is the one that fails, miserabley, often, and quickly. I have more than 30k with my 6 puck and it still grabs like a mofo.

Crap that sucks :\. I don't really want to change the feel of my clutch too much... I just want the lighter flywheel mostly. I'm going to be doing a dp soon, and after that I think I will be done with power mods, so I don't really need the added torque capacity.

I know I read a little on here about it, but whats the comparison of feel 6-puck vs. stock?

[BLKSTIG]

^sounds like you want the fidanza/luk combo

[Lacey28]

Doing my 6 puck when the weather gets nicer. After reading the reviews i cant wait till i get this in. I am good with 30-50k for a performance clutch

[Lakespeed6]

Originally Posted by I gotthatzumzum Crap that sucks :\. I don't really want to change the feel of my clutch too much... I just want the lighter flywheel mostly. I'm going to be doing a dp soon, and after that I think I will be done with power mods, so I don't really need the added torque capacity. I know I read a little on here about it, but whats the comparison of feel 6-puck vs. stock?

@smr87; loves his full face ACT.
no issues yet but doesn't have a ton of miles

[smr87]

I've got about 10k on my full face/Prolite flywheel setup. Clutch feel is much more progressive than stock even with the pro light flywheel. It does chatter a bit if you come away from a stop very slow or in reverse but otherwise it is much more streetable than the 6puck, even when compared to a 6 puck with the heavier streetlight flywheel.
I have a pretty standard e85 setup, probably 340-360 ftlbs, so I'm not really taxing this setup from a power standpoint.

[taf0422]

Originally Posted by smr87 I've got about 10k on my full face/Prolite flywheel setup. Clutch feel is much more progressive than stock even with the pro light flywheel. It does chatter a bit if you come away from a stop very slow or in reverse but otherwise it is much more streetable than the 6puck, even when compared to a 6 puck with the heavier streetlight flywheel. I have a pretty standard e85 setup, probably 340-360 ftlbs, so I'm not really taxing this setup from a power standpoint.

Well you should start putting some pressure on that clutch!! Lol.

I just put in another 6 puck a few weeks ago. Lol. I love swapping clutches.

[amggilly305]

street lite, and if i could do it over again i never would've bought a pro lite the first time around

[I gotthatzumzum]

Originally Posted by BLKSTIG ^sounds like you want the fidanza/luk combo

I briefly looked into that, but people say the chatter is terribly loud even without upgraded motor mounts, and I have all 3 aftermarket ones. Also, some say they felt the fidanza is just too light.

Originally Posted by smr87 I've got about 10k on my full face/Prolite flywheel setup. Clutch feel is much more progressive than stock even with the pro light flywheel. It does chatter a bit if you come away from a stop very slow or in reverse but otherwise it is much more streetable than the 6puck, even when compared to a 6 puck with the heavier streetlight flywheel. I have a pretty standard e85 setup, probably 340-360 ftlbs, so I'm not really taxing this setup from a power standpoint.

For me, I will just be on pump 91, fully bolted, and initially with an OTS, but hopefully a protune eventually, so if I'm at 320 at the wheels I would be really surprised. I also don't launch my car as its my daily driver and I know that its hard on the drive train... but everyone for the most part is of the opinion that the full face act is made of glass.

[Wiek_MPS]

I am running the prolite wheel. I must say i expected worse. Its not nearly as bad as some people say. Hardly any chatter. Strange enough it chatters a little bit in reverse. Must say Inam pretty happy with it.

[smr87]

Originally Posted by I gotthatzumzum I briefly looked into that, but people say the chatter is terribly loud even without upgraded motor mounts, and I have all 3 aftermarket ones. Also, some say they felt the fidanza is just too light. For me, I will just be on pump 91, fully bolted, and initially with an OTS, but hopefully a protune eventually, so if I'm at 320 at the wheels I would be really surprised. I also don't launch my car as its my daily driver and I know that its hard on the drive train... but everyone for the most part is of the opinion that the full face act is made of glass.

I'm not sure who these people are that have had failures with the street disk clutch kit but I've not been nice to mine and it seems to work better the more you beat it. I personally think it's the go to for someone who has basic mods looking for a stock replacement. It's about the same cost as a stock set up, and IMHO it has much better drive-ability over stock, especially if you pair it with the heavier streetlight flywheel option.

[I gotthatzumzum]

Originally Posted by Wiek_MPS I am running the prolite wheel. I must say i expected worse. Its not nearly as bad as some people say. Hardly any chatter. Strange enough it chatters a little bit in reverse. Must say Inam pretty happy with it.

Pretty much everyone that actually has the prolite say to go with the prolite. I like everything about the weight difference of the prolite vs stock other than the possible noise increase. If its a little more noisy, I can hang...

Originally Posted by smr87 I'm not sure who these people are that have had failures with the street disk clutch kit but I've not been nice to mine and it seems to work better the more you beat it. I personally think it's the go to for someone who has basic mods looking for a stock replacement. It's about the same cost as a stock set up, and IMHO it has much better drive-ability over stock, especially if you pair it with the heavier streetlight flywheel option.

Well what is interesting is that all of the failures I have read about, I have now noticed, is from back in 2011-2012. With how many manufacturers ACT supplies for, or rather how many makes/models they supply for, it would be really hard to think that they wouldn't rectify an issue as major as that, and maybe that is why I haven't seen any threads recently about failures.

Still, from reading those, I feel like I should just go with the 6puck and be done with it.

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by I gotthatzumzum Crap that sucks :\. I don't really want to change the feel of my clutch too much... I just want the lighter flywheel mostly. I'm going to be doing a dp soon, and after that I think I will be done with power mods, so I don't really need the added torque capacity. I know I read a little on here about it, but whats the comparison of feel 6-puck vs. stock?

I highly doubt the street face clutch would last long on a Stock Speed 3, nevermind a modded one.


If you are a man, it will not matter.

Originally Posted by smr87 I'm not sure who these people are that have had failures with the street disk clutch kit but I've not been nice to mine and it seems to work better the more you beat it. I personally think it's the go to for someone who has basic mods looking for a stock replacement. It's about the same cost as a stock set up, and IMHO it has much better drive-ability over stock, especially if you pair it with the heavier streetlight flywheel option.

There have been several threads on here that documented the fails of the ACT street faced clutch.

[I gotthatzumzum]

Originally Posted by himurax13 I highly doubt the street face clutch would last long on a Stock Speed 3, nevermind a modded one. If you are a man, it will not matter. There have been several threads on here that documented the fails of the ACT street faced clutch.

I don't think being a man has anything to do with it. For me, its more about not killing my leg every day driving to and from work/school.

fwiw, I'm pretty sold on the 6-puck setup with the prolite flywheel. My only concern is longevity. It seems most are saying expect 30-50k miles out of it, and for me that isn't quite enough for a daily driven vehicle... but I may bite the bullet in the next few months and just give it a shot.

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by I gotthatzumzum I don't think being a man has anything to do with it. For me, its more about not killing my leg every day driving to and from work/school. fwiw, I'm pretty sold on the 6-puck setup with the prolite flywheel. My only concern is longevity. It seems most are saying expect 30-50k miles out of it, and for me that isn't quite enough for a daily driven vehicle... but I may bite the bullet in the next few months and just give it a shot.

It does, but then again I have popeye-like calves.

Some people have issues going from neutral to first and then into second. After that, it is smooth as buttah.

People have gotten more than 50k out of it but there are a few things you can do to extend the life of your clutch. The bottom line is that you need to keep your foot off of it whenever possible. Do not engage the clutch when you are at a traffic light and when you are in traffic, give yourself more space.

[I gotthatzumzum]

Originally Posted by himurax13 It does, but then again I have popeye-like calves. Some people have issues going from neutral to first and then into second. After that, it is smooth as buttah. People have gotten more than 50k out of it but there are a few things you can do to extend the life of your clutch. The bottom line is that you need to keep your foot off of it whenever possible. Do not engage the clutch when you are at a traffic light and when you are in traffic, give yourself more space.

I'm not a small guy by any means, but I don't want to regret getting it and kick myself the first time I get stuck in shitty traffic. I drive this thing to Cali from time to time.

These are 2 things that I already practice, so I guess I am on the right track. I already have to leave space ahead of me for engagement in the F1 style trans cars at work... so that part is easy peasy.

[Fail_6]

Originally Posted by I gotthatzumzum So, thoughts/updates on streetlite vs prolite? My brain tells me streetlite, but my right foot tells me prolite. I am probably going to need a clutch in the next 10k or so, and I want to be ready. Even though there are some "Fuck ACT" on this board, it still seems like the best bang for the buck clutch, pp, and fw. My car is my dd and stays 100% on the street, but I do drive quite aggressive, and downshift a lot when braking/stuck in traffic. The idea of having not quite so much rotational mass sounds like a plus for me in that regards. Probably won't end up going 6-puck though and I probably won't ever go past being fully bolted, so I won't need the extra torque capacity. *Edit Also, did any of you use the ACT T/O bearing and pilot bearing? I know the stock T/O bearing is noisy! If not, what did you end up running with?

Honestly, if you're not planning to push past the 400 whp mark, streetlite is likely more than adequate for whatever you plan to throw at it, with easier engagement than the prolite.

Granted, I have over 30k on the prolite, but do mostly hw driving, but it really doesn't create any issues for me living with it daily at all. Even driving around town, getting groceries, not an issue at all. I'm used to it and the engagement, and it eventually turns into muscle memory that requires no focus to perform.

I did recently spend 6 weeks in training which added 90 mins stop and go traffic in the morning, and honestly it did fine. Kept it in second, there's enough trq to start with no fuss, and it did it's duty at 2 mph with no hiccups.

The 1 down side, no one else can drive it lol.....everyone stalls the damn thing at least once, and may or may not be able to move it once they restart haha. Guy changing my oil earlier today stalled, and not taking shots at all when I say this, hell even Justin (freektune) stalled once when he was moving it in his driveway lol....not to say the streetlite is that much better, but I've heard engagement isn't as tricky.

Also, I used the pilot and release bearings included in the kit, gave me no hassle thus far.

And why 6 puck? Try driving a 4 puck smoothly in traffic lol

[mrmonk7663]

Past 400hp the streetlite will be fine as well. The only difference between the 2 is sthe rotating mass. I have the streetlite in my car. I wish I had gotten the prolite. The flywheel is easy to learn, prolite or streetlite...the 6 puck engagement is what will take some getting used to. These clutches don't slip like the stocker.

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by PartiAudiMazdarati The 1 down side, no one else can drive it lol.....everyone stalls the damn thing at least once, and may or may not be able to move it once they restart haha. Guy changing my oil earlier today stalled, and not taking shots at all when I say this, hell even Justin (freektune) stalled once when he was moving it in his driveway lol....not to say the streetlite is that much better, but I've heard engagement isn't as tricky. Also, I used the pilot and release bearings included in the kit, gave me no hassle thus far. And why 6 puck? Try driving a 4 puck smoothly in traffic lol

The same is true of the streetlight. I tell mechanics and Valet's that I will park my own car. Having an unmarked Stainless shift knob doesn't help either, lol.

The only difference with the prolite is that you need to give it a wee bit more gas to get rolling.

Real men use unsprung 4 pucks.

[Tabasco69]

Well look at the pictures, take a guess at how many miles where put on this clutch, it was only tracked twice for a total of 15 1/4 mile runs, only 6 clutch dumps in the wet box to heat my tires otherwise this clutch has only seen daily driving




10,000 miles....various power levels from 325hp275ftlbs to 525hp/475ftlbs, because the I average @ 2000 miles a year it took me 5 years to 10,000 with this clutch.

The only reason I inspect it is because I was in the middle of swapping in a replacement transmission, I lost 2nd gear and it's sync, when I saw the pressure plate paint all peeling off it indicated there had been a lot of heat, so I removed the clutch to inspect.

I also emailed ACT and included these pictures and this was their reply, "Thank you for purchasing our clutch kit, I looked over your pictures everything looks like normal wear for running a puck disc. You can get your flywheel resurfaced at a local machine shop I would suggest not reusing your pressure plate.



Thanks,









Jon Phillips


Customer Service Representative


Advanced Clutch Technology

Tel: (661) 940-7555


Fax: (661) 940-7541"

Bottom line the clutch was not slipping at this point, I do think there was some excessive wear and abnormal wear, the rivets had just barely began to make contact with friction surfaces, for daily driving with the possibility of getting stuck in creeping rush hour traffic this is not a clutch you would want to use, a lot of the wear on the flywheel is from grabbing.....in traffic, beast example is fucking tree huggers who drives a prius who stop 100 feet short of a light and ease up 8 feet every 5 seconds is what killed this clutch IMO

Personally I will be installing a full face semi organic with the same but new pressure plate and flywheel, I would spring for a spec or giken twin but I would be gambling by making the clutch the strong point, I would rather have a $150 clutch disc fail then another gear or synch.

[Lacey28]

Getting my clutch changed out today with the 6 puck. I will keep you guys updated on first impressions

[Lacey28]

Okay well just picked up the car and wow this pedal is stiff. No play at all its like just on/off switch. Other then me having to get used to it, i think it feels great other wise.