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trickytwelveinch 07-02-2009 01:18 AM

ACT Clutch/Flywheel Installation w/ pics
 
Alright biothces here the pics:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMG_0893.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMG_0894.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMG_0895.jpg

This is the stocker

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMG_0891.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMG_0898.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMG_0900.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMG_0901.jpg


Well, I must say the install was a breeze- didn't run into any issues aside from accidentally tearing up the drivers side oil seal when removing the axle but that's replaced as well, tranny back up and waiting to be driven.

The car will be done around Tuesday if everything goes good with time so I'll post my driving impressions when I actually drive this thing.

Lastly, the weight compared to the stock clutch/flywheel is significantly lighter- at least over 15 pounds.

superskaterxes 07-02-2009 04:57 AM

lol plan for more then 7 hours haha

socks 07-02-2009 05:45 AM

It took 4 hours from start to finish to install my ACT clutch...

be careful with your slave...

gsrtype1 07-02-2009 09:34 AM

Pretty straight foward if you know what your doing. Please update if your clutch does't fit. I was told mine did not fit and they had to modified it to fit.

Buildabong 07-02-2009 10:13 AM

^^ straight forward lol. Only thing u ever put on ur car was the ets and the stand back lol. Everything else the shop does it for u. U noob

gsrtype1 07-02-2009 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buildabong (Post 259309)
^^ straight forward lol. Only thing u ever put on ur car was the ets and the stand back lol. Everything else the shop does it for u. U noob

Me noob? U never instaled anything on your car you had David do everything. NOOOOB!

Buildabong 07-02-2009 12:06 PM

that's why i help with everything? i installed my mani, dp, meth, basically everything on the car, all david did was supply me with tools, and everyonce in a while helpped me when i got fustrated and hands started huting.

did u help build a turbo3? wait.. u just sit back and watch them work like half of the people do when they get stuff installed. NOOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR, go back and change your spark plugs thinking you have installed something

trickytwelveinch 07-02-2009 01:10 PM

Does anyone have the torque specs for the transmission case? I got the manual in PDF format and sections from 5-10 all the way to the ends contain nothing as far as torque specs go for the case....

socks 07-05-2009 09:21 PM

theres 2 different types of bolts, and they both use different specs, its not torqued a whole lot. just get them good and tight...

trickytwelveinch 07-07-2009 12:17 AM

Update: clutch/flywheel installed!
 
Just thought I post an update:

ACT clutch installed with the new blow out bearing but kept the stock pilot bearing. This was a breeze. Transmission case goes back on tomorrow and that will take care of that.

Total hours of work- roughly about 4.

Will most likely post up a how-to on this- even though it won't be in great detail since the only things you really need are logic, common sense and the right tools.

Can't wait to drive this shit!

gsrtype1 07-07-2009 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch (Post 262176)
Just thought I post an update:

ACT clutch installed with the new blow out bearing but kept the stock pilot bearing. This was a breeze. Transmission case goes back on tomorrow and that will take care of that.

Total hours of work- roughly about 4.

Will most likely post up a how-to on this- even though it won't be in great detail since the only things you really need are logic, common sense and the right tools.

Can't wait to drive this shit!

youll like it takes a tad getting used too. Youll probably stall it first coulpe times.

trickytwelveinch 07-07-2009 07:23 PM

Yeah, I can't wait to test this out. There's still a lot to do so I probably won't have the car done till next week Thursday. Sigh, it's been 3 weeks since I last drove I already miss the car.

Now, I'm shopping for some good rims & tires that I could get within a week or two as this is the last thing that I need. The tires I'm going with are Dunlop direzza star spec Zr1. As far as rims-- I have no idea since it will take forever to get my OZ HLT's in white and I don't want to wait.

trickytwelveinch 07-08-2009 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsrtype1 (Post 259273)
Pretty straight foward if you know what your doing. Please update if your clutch does't fit. I was told mine did not fit and they had to modified it to fit.

You sure they knew what they were doing? This went in smooth as butter no fitment issues at all. Clutch is nice and stiff; I went through all the gears with the car off (still not finish with the whole car) and all the gears, clutch & flywheel are solid.

We did this whole thing with no tranny jack just two small regular car jacks and lots of muscle and everything went great. The tranny case lined up perfectly, bolts when it nice and easy.

Just gotta wait till the first drive! One more week!

SharkDiver 07-09-2009 04:47 PM

My act flywheel went on without a problem also.

trickytwelveinch 07-12-2009 12:18 PM

Pictures in first post!

demonspeed 07-12-2009 09:23 PM

What are the official weights of the old flywheel vs. new? I've heard the stock one weighs 43lbs or so, and the new one is 16.

trickytwelveinch 07-12-2009 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonspeed (Post 266127)
What are the official weights of the old flywheel vs. new? I've heard the stock one weighs 43lbs or so, and the new one is 16.

I didn't weight neither of them but it did feel like it was a 15-20lbs difference... I'll weight the stock one tomorrow if I get a chance... but from the weight it felt in my hands it did feel like it was around there, perhaps slightly less- I dunno.

Guanaco 07-12-2009 11:52 PM

How long did the stock clutch last on your car? did you replace it just because or the stock one broke down?
id elso like to know how reliable is the MS3 stock flywheel/clutch since i have to buy it via oversea before it goes...
thanks a lot.

jmhinkle 07-13-2009 12:03 AM

The only advantage the Speed3 has over the 6 is the ease of changing the clutch. I'm seriously dreading this ordeal.

SharkDiver 07-13-2009 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guanaco (Post 266210)
How long did the stock clutch last on your car? did you replace it just because or the stock one broke down?
id elso like to know how reliable is the MS3 stock flywheel/clutch since i have to buy it via oversea before it goes...
thanks a lot.

I had 47k miles on my stock clutch and I made over 30 passes at the drag strip and alot of street racing and when I took my clutch out it looked like it had alot left to go and I never slipped. I think the stock clutch on these cars are pretty good but I dont like the heavy flywheel..I also drive about 70 miles a day to and from work in stop and go traffic and it still looked good. I really only changed it because I had my motor out and it was a good time to do it to save me alot of work later.

quickspeed6 07-13-2009 09:13 AM

So i take it that this was a speed 3 that this job was done on? because 4 hours on a speed6 NO WAY!!! The best that i have seen was about 6 hours. I think this was done by myself and one other guy don't remember his name though.

whoosh@Realtune 07-13-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickspeed6 (Post 266420)
So i take it that this was a speed 3 that this job was done on? because 4 hours on a speed6 NO WAY!!! The best that i have seen was about 6 hours. I think this was done by myself and one other guy don't remember his name though.

why so quick to argue about every time frame someone "says" they complete an install?

it's the internet
4 hours could be the entire weekend for all we know (or care)

we know you are a good wrench charles:wink:

trickytwelveinch 07-13-2009 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guanaco (Post 266210)
How long did the stock clutch last on your car? did you replace it just because or the stock one broke down?
id elso like to know how reliable is the MS3 stock flywheel/clutch since i have to buy it via oversea before it goes...
thanks a lot.

I have the car just over a year now and I only got 8K miles on the ODO. The reason I replaced the clutch is due to my modifications- I have too much power for the stock one- started slipping.

However, when the car was stock or with a small mod here and there the clutch/flywheel were great. No slipping, easy and smooth engagement- overall, (IMO) an extremely comfortable clutch. So like I said I only went 8K miles on the stock one, only replaced it due to modifications.

The stock one should last you well over 50K miles on "normal" driving if not more.

trickytwelveinch 07-13-2009 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickspeed6 (Post 266420)
So i take it that this was a speed 3 that this job was done on? because 4 hours on a speed6 NO WAY!!! The best that i have seen was about 6 hours. I think this was done by myself and one other guy don't remember his name though.

Yeah, a speed3.

gsrtype1 07-13-2009 09:44 AM

what did your clutch and flywheel look like? mine was fine.

trickytwelveinch 07-13-2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsrtype1 (Post 266434)
what did your clutch and flywheel look like? mine was fine.

I'll take some pictures later today and post them.

edit: but oh yeah it was mint

quickspeed6 07-13-2009 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoosh (Post 266421)
why so quick to argue about every time frame someone "says" they complete an install?

it's the internet
4 hours could be the entire weekend for all we know (or care)

we know you are a good wrench charles:wink:

Sorry if i came off as i was trying not to show my ability and or speed to be able to work on a car. I have just seen it before where someone that hasn't done this type of job before and dont understand the difficulty of doing something like this and they say hell with it its only 2-4 or 5-7 hours. Hell i can knock that out, then they get started and their car is down for weeks or they have to take it to the shop because they got a little to deep into the job and they can't finish.

Now i am guilty of doing this very thing and saying how fast I or someone else can do it. Some of those that has the ability to work on cars, this might give them a little incentive to tackle it themselves. So when they see the time frame of how long, this will help them toward thier goal but my hurt others.



Also if you can do a speed6 in 4 hours i want to know how you did it so PM me if and when it happens!! I also hope this doesn't discourage those that have not worked on thier car to not and try and do it..

Hope everyone understands what i am trying to say..

demonspeed 07-15-2009 02:24 AM

As a general rule, I'd say for a DIY type mechanic, set aside a whole weekend to do a clutch. I know it doesn't necessarily take near that much time, but if its the first time on that type of car, it is always nice to have the time already set up to pick up that special tool, or get a bolt that you lost.

trickytwelveinch 07-15-2009 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonspeed (Post 268036)
As a general rule, I'd say for a DIY type mechanic, set aside a whole weekend to do a clutch. I know it doesn't necessarily take near that much time, but if its the first time on that type of car, it is always nice to have the time already set up to pick up that special tool, or get a bolt that you lost.

Bolts shouldn't be lost (IMO) yeah, shit, happens and they do but you could take that one extra step and save a whole lot of time by labeling them. All the bolts I took off (trans-axles, joint shaft, transmission, etc, etc) I always labeled them and put them in a plastic zip-lock bag. That way if the car has been sitting for a day or two and/or I start working on something else I know where those bolts go asap.


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