another blowing motor thread
 

So i blew my motor this morning and now I need help.

One option is to find a stock motor and replace the internals with forged ones and drop it in. If you think I should do this could you give me a few places where I might be able to find a engine and around cost for all this?


Option two would be to buy the forged engine from protege garage. Would anyone recommend this or has anyone done it? Also would I need anything else for the swap or just that engine? Anyone know about how long I can expect it to last as well?



Any help is apprecaited.

holly shit.... every day i keep reading new threads like this...
sorry to hear that man... good luck!


what mods did u have? why isnt it an option to go and get your warranty?

u can always go back to stock like that guy with the red speed6 who got his shit all paid for by the dealer...

Do you WANT to go forged? Are your pockets bottom less? sourcing a stock motor would be much cheaper then upgrading something you never plan to fully utilize

i personally dont recommend buying from pg due to unspecified shipping issues i and many others have had. Its a tough one man. more details and good luck hope you get settled. mileage, mods, what was happening, have you been seeing kr. thanks. year...

I had a Cobb ap Cobb Sri corksport dp. Corksport tbe hks ssqv bov in recirc and rmm.


And I don't want this shit to happen again so I think forged is the way to go. And they aren't bottomless but 5gs I can get.

Clutch pedal was vibrating then a lil while later at a stop sign *klunk!*.
Had 15k miles on it. And I got the warranty till the end of the year but that means I'd have to source a lot of stock parts for no guarantee that Mazda will do it.

2008 GT.
Ots map with no upgraded fp as it didn't last long enough for me too.
No datalogs. :( but right before the clutch problem I remember Kr hitting 5.7.

what year?
what tune or map?
upgraded fuel pump?
any datalogs?

did u see it coming? did the car act weird? vibrating clutch? anything?

where u driving it hard when it happened? partial throttle boost?...
come on buddy... more info! lol

we are here to help, but u gotta give us more information

Didn't you have a thread a couple days ago that you were spiking to 22 psi and getting fuel cut? I might be thinking of someone else.

you only had 15K miles on the car??

i would get mazda to pay if you can caz you can still go forged and sell the brand new 2.3mzr for good money

You got very few mods, unmarry your AP, take the DP/SRI out and take your chances with the dealer! It doesnt hurt to try really, when you talking about spending at least $3k on another motor.

Scary shit. I got 5.95 KR at WOT once. It didn't feel good. My clutch pedal isn't vibrating, and I've since backed wayyyy off on my tuning and mods.

benefits of VIP

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...arranty-45649/

SKEETER....Thats a fucked up avatar! do they actually make those dolls? wtf

awww man ever since you made that thread about overboosting, I saw this coming...

That stock motor would do you just fine if it wasn't for the bad tune. This cat doesn't take detonation or boost spikes at low RPM. It also NEEDS a fuel pump. People should know this if they want to keep the stock block together.

Clutch vibes also mean don't turn the car on.

i do not want to be in your boat sir but im beyond sorry good luck

when u say u had cluth vibes, u mean like serious vibes more than upgraded mounts and shit like that cause right?........

were u seeing the 5.7 @ WOT or just cruising?

U dont need to find that many parts to go back to stock, Id give a warranty replacement b4 u commit to goin forged, ur bank acct will thank you when it ends up costing thousands more than u think....

I can help you out with both...

I'll sell you a longblock ready to be rebuilt for 1K plus shipping.

Or, I'll sell you my old OEM longblock (pulled at ~23K miles in perfect shape) for 2K plus shipping. All you need to do is swap on your accessories, bolt it in, and drive to the dealership to trade the car in...:lmao:

ive seen 5.7kr in my old ms6 but it was only once and it was when i was cruising....i saw 1.7 yesterday in the ms3...im scared.....

stock out -----> dealer . Only 15k? They'll replace it. follow link above to VIP section on how to prep for dealer. just my .02

agree with that ^ guy....15k miles is a joke, can't believe people breaking them so soon, good luck man...

So I think SS has already sold all three blocks in record time. :( still have yet to pull the engine due to a busy week. But I was told by a machine shop that they could weld the hole up completely with no problems. If I can find a block in time I might give this a shot. What do you all think? What would be the pros and cons to this option? I know a lot of you said to stock it out but I only have the stock bpv. And I think I'd rather just build a motor so I can push it further.

Weld a hole in block....

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dude 15000 miles? really? fuck youre couch, get a different car.

Haha that's what I was thinking. But they said they've done all kinds like that but yeah...



Oh trust me this makes me want to blow up the rest of it but its a love hate relationship

I feel your pain bro. Blew up a month ago with 17k miles. You could also call John at PT-performance. He just finished building a forged short block for me.

None are paid for at this point...

One should be paid for today, the other on the 21st... The only motor not spoken for is my original longblock, it does not need a rebuild, all you would need to do is swap your accessories over and drop it in...

NEVER go back to the machine shop that said they could weld your block.. WTF!!

you could try geting it welded and then drive immediately to the dealership for a trade in.

but if they find you out, they'll void your warranty immediately. oh the decisions!!

Dude. Spend the little bit of money for the stock pieces and bring it to the dealer. Seriously, I don't know why you would even consider any other option. If you decide that you still want a built motor, you can always do that later. Now what's the REAL reason you won't take it to Mazda? I get the feeling we're not getting the whole story here.

Haha I'm not hiding nothing its just the lady that had it before had the exhaust put on and a carbon fiber hatch. So I'm not all sure what they have touched or not you know. I feel like ill miss something. Do you think the hatch will matter anyways? But that's why I'm a little sketchy about stocking it out.

Weld that sucker up. I would. You know phillyb would.


Best idea I heard all day, they don't scour the block of a trade-in for a welded block.
I vote weld and trade.
Or even cheaper, JBWeld a patch on there.

how shitty would you feel, if you just bought a mad cheap ms3 and during your first oil change find out some ass bag JB welded the block back together.


haha

what year car is this blow up?

sorry to hear, shoulda seen it coming tho seeing as that you didnt have the supporting fuel pump and ots tune. i would at least try to get warrantied if you even have one. get a new stock block and just throw in some rods but you gota get tuned and have that extra fuel in there man.

I think one of the patterns we're seeing is -- don't buy a used MS3. Seems like many of the booms were bought used.

well, my theory is partly based on the idea that the weld would give out before the car sold to a new owner. then the dealership would be left holding their dick.

How many MS3's blow vs MS6's? (serious question)

^ How many MS3 were sold compared to MS6?

I have thought about welding blocks back together. It cant be that hard.

Good point... Unfortunately we don't know the percentage of blown motors vs cars sold, but I wonder if the percentage of blown MS6's would be lower than MS3's...

If it WERE lower, why do you think that would be the case? Could it be that whatever they did to install the DISI motor into the MS3 (exhaust, awd/tranny, whatever else?) made the car less reliable? Or could it be as simple as a more expensive car (MS6), encourages a whole different type of owner?

My oil return line is JB'ed on my turbo escort zx2 and only leaks a couple drops a day.
Just go back to stock, get a new motor, save a lot of cash. Unless you have alot of time and plan on modding further then go forged. Good luck