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 Old 12-28-2008, 12:16 PM   #1
 
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Thats right guys it was my turn i guess to have my motor blown. Mods r on the right and i was driving about 85MPH on the highway on 6th gear. Car began to sputter which wasnt uncommon and then next thing i know BANG! Smoke all over the place and oil all over my speed3!! Fuck! next thing I do is pull over on I-95 and find out all over the hwy and when i look under the car I see oil and and my oil pan cracked not to mention aluminum pieces all over the place. So car is sitting at mazda. Luckily, mazda knows my mods and even a corporate mazda rep saw my vehicle and let me keep 100% of my warranty.
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that make 2 cars this week
my buddy motor is done also
bent a rod after a boost cut made by his crappy AP map
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Mods aren't showing up man, post up, we are interested
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still find it very weird that so many spd3's going and so little spd6's... maybe its just me :/
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last year about this time we lost over 8 MS6
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that forum is worthless, but im not saying it doesnt happen in the ms6 just seems that the 3 is more prone.. dunno tho
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thats cause there is more 3s on the road =)
wait let me correct my self more kids with 3s on the road
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that forum is worthless, but im not saying it doesnt happen in the ms6 just seems that the 3 is more prone.. dunno tho
nah man ms6's had a blown motor fest the beginning of the year don't know what your talking about. were all equally prone but theres gotta be more Ms3's running around then ms6's by now hence why we're blowing more often.
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wait what the fuck? Your cars sputtered while cruising and you say thats common?
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well if boost cuts are common then sputter must be common also =(
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Thats right guys it was my turn i guess to have my motor blown. Mods r on the right and i was driving about 85MPH on the highway on 6th gear. Car began to sputter which wasnt uncommon and then next thing i know BANG! Smoke all over the place and oil all over my speed3!! Fuck! next thing I do is pull over on I-95 and find out all over the hwy and when i look under the car I see oil and and my oil pan cracked not to mention aluminum pieces all over the place. So car is sitting at mazda. Luckily, mazda knows my mods and even a corporate mazda rep saw my vehicle and let me keep 100% of my warranty.
What do you mean by sputter? Fuel cut?
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i think his pump is fucked
so when @ WOT it sputters dumping to much fuel in the system
making it hick up if that makes sense
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wait what the fuck? Your cars sputtered while cruising and you say thats common?
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how long was your ride sputtering for? do you have dashhawk or ap logs showing what was going on? did you have pump internals? did your dealership or you ever look into why the car was sputtering at 85. What was your knock count usually when cruising at this speed, ( this is about 3,100-3,400 rpm's depending on the grade where everyone see's spme knock)
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Let us know if you want to avoid this drama again. I'm sure we can work something out for that new engine you'll receive in the coming days in exchange for a proven forged engine. I wish this problem to no MS3/6 owner. Ok maybe the AP guys...I kid I kid...I've had three of my closet friends blow and it no picnic when it does.

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mods? flooring it in 6th caused the sputter? which is a big nono in my book anyway, fuel pump?
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Well that sucks man, I am sure Mazda will not be thrilled to see mods on there. I would take off as many mods as you can before you can go. You should have looked in to that shudder a little sooner especially if you suspected that it was fuel related.
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what a suprise, lol. what's that, 500 this year?
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Perhaps the tune was to aggressive for the weather. Sorry to hear about the motor, what were the outside temps?
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Perhaps the tune was to aggressive for the weather. Sorry to hear about the motor, what were the outside temps?
He's in Ft. Lauderdale and it's been about 70's - 80's all week...
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hes in south florida i am doubting its weather related

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Originally Posted by y2kc0wb0y View Post
Let us know if you want to avoid this drama again. I'm sure we can work something out for that new engine you'll receive in the coming days in exchange for a proven forged engine. I wish this problem to no MS3/6 owner. Ok maybe the AP guys...I kid I kid...I've had three of my closet friends blow and it no picnic when it does.

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Maybe I missed something in earlier posts, what didn't he "do right"? I didn't see a mod list for his car anywhere yet.
"proven forged engines"? where are they? I wasn't aware of anyone running one yet that was proven. (that takes thousands of hard miles) Randy's seems to be doing good so far, but hasn't had it long enough that I'd consider it proven. I might be way off here and if I am please correct me, but it doesn't seem that anyone one has a proven formula for this car yet. I have to admit that things seem to be taking off as we speak, but up till recently with a few finding from ptp and others no one really seemed to have had this car figured out.
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^^^ Yah, you're kinda outta the loop.
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Since I don't see a mod list just wanted to make sure you changed the plugs as instructed in the AP manual and had the OCC.
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^^^ Yah, you're kinda outta the loop.
well....fill me in.

where/ what forged engines are you referring too? vague post like that help no one out. r u telling me that someone has a fool proof formula to do this engine right? I call BS on your post unless you can show references to support your claims. Coming back with snide remarks doesn't prove shit.
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I'm really wondering if any of these cars with blown motors had the fuel pump TSB performed? I wonder if that has/hasn't got anything to do with it?
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I'm really wondering if any of these cars with blown motors had the fuel pump TSB performed? I wonder if that has/hasn't got anything to do with it?
you must be out of the loop too, ask y2k cowboy he knows
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Originally Posted by MPS View Post
that make 2 cars this week
my buddy motor is done also
bent a rod after a boost cut made by his crappy AP map
Where state does he live in and what tune was he running?
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I'd still like to see a list of the mods the OP was running...something often missing in a "My motor blew" post...
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Originally Posted by booya620 View Post
you must be out of the loop too, ask y2k cowboy he knows
Yeah i'd say I'm pretty out of the loop. Been real busy and had zero time on the forums.
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but up till recently with a few finding from ptp
I'll just point out that this is probably where you went wrong.
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Here's his mod list from his stats page. Says nothing about an ap on it and states he was running 15.7 boost which is really close to stock.

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Originally Posted by booya620 View Post
well....fill me in.

where/ what forged engines are you referring too? vague post like that help no one out. r u telling me that someone has a fool proof formula to do this engine right? I call BS on your post unless you can show references to support your claims. Coming back with snide remarks doesn't prove shit.
Im not sure how many he has built outside of robbie's CP/Pauter piston-rod combo, but i have sold AT LEAST 15 sets over the past year after we had CP make them. They are out there. I'll be using the same myself as well.
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did he have an airflow straightener? Thats a lot of mods for the stock ecu to handle, also what about a fuel pump?
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Im not sure how many he has built outside of robbie's CP/Pauter piston-rod combo, but i have sold AT LEAST 15 sets over the past year after we had CP make them. They are out there. I'll be using the same myself as well.
Maybe i type like shit, but it seems like my point was lost along the way. cowbay stated to learn a lesson and do it right. Where are all the posts from guys with that have done it right? I understand that forged internals are a must to go big with this platform, but it doesn't seem like evo had gone "big" I'd have to say with what we know now that upgraded fuel pump a tune and meth are necessary to help keep this car safe. Darksun has done crazy things with just meth and upping boost, but parts like pump internals haven't been readily available, meth is just becoming mainstream and no one has posted any long term results of running a forged motor. I'm not the frst person to say that if they are out there then where are they?
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i dont want to give to much info not my ride
but it was 103 map

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Where state does he live in and what tune was he running?
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i dont want to give to much info not my ride
but it was 103 map
I respect that.
Thanks for the reply.
I only wanted to know the state so I could estimate the weather temps. Any idea what the temps were like when this ocurred?
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