ANOTHER VICTIM OF A BLOWN MOTOR

[booya620]

-6 damn that's cold. any idea how long he had let it warm up before driving?

I got kinda confused for a second. I forgot that there are two blown cars in this thread, evo's and mps's friend. Mps how modded was the car? stage 1 or 2?

[Fobio]

MPS prolly meant -6 celsius...

[Speedn3]

Doesn't read like evo was in boost. Seems like the ususal part throttle engine vent.

[Speedn3]

Originally Posted by Fobio MPS prolly meant -6 celsius...

lol...-6 c -6F both are cold as shit in my neck of the woods.
BTW....how much is -6c in farenheit degrees?

[booya620]

nah cruising at 85 usually means -8/-4 psi at 3,300 rpms. the same point where alot of cars get the partial throttle knock, stock/ modded doesn't seem to matter.

[Speedn3]

Originally Posted by booya620 nah cruising at 85 usually means -8/-4 psi at 3,300 rpms. the same point where alot of cars get the partial throttle knock, stock/ modded doesn't seem to matter.

Yeah...that's what I meant. Reads like the usual part throttle venting.
Not sure about MPS's friend tho. Not enough info.

[booya620]

yeah it's definitely not enough info, I understand why though if he's gonna try to warranty it.

does anyone have an actual number for blown motors for 2008? people joke about crazy high numbers, but it doesn't seem to be more than 10-20 which still sucks.

[Speedn3]

Originally Posted by booya620 yeah it's definitely not enough info, I understand why though if he's gonna try to warranty it. does anyone have an actual number for blown motors for 2008? people joke about crazy high numbers, but it doesn't seem to be more than 10-20 which still sucks.

I'm also curious as to what tuning solution the ppl with blown engines were using.
I know there have been a few that were bone stock but I would wager most were modded.
Actually, the percentages are not that high at least from the number of ppl that posts on the 3 forums. Don't get me wrong...one is too many in my book.
The more info we have provides us with the knowledge to pinpoint where the issues lies.
I understand why most ppl that have blown engines really clam up is because they are going for warranty work.

[JimmyMac]

Damn, I just saw this thread.

So are there two guys in here claiming to have blown a motor? If so, please PM me with details so I can add you to the blown engine resource thread.

Well I finally got off my ass. At this moment, I'm about to drain my oil and pull my oil pan off. Gonna see if mine is a spun bearing or bent rod.... or something different....

[gsrtype1]

damm sorry to hear..

[carfanatic101]

Originally Posted by Deadman still find it very weird that so many spd3's going and so little spd6's... maybe its just me :/

Probably that the ms6 was only made for two years to the ms3's three years and the mazdaspeed 3's became the new hot hatch that is flying off our showroom floors. Its to the point where these kids are modding the shit out of them just as if they were a new srt-4(JUNK) Wish it wasn't happening because soon everyone and there neighbors will own one.

[802MS3]

so still no exact list of mods? FP or no?? no meth??

[ElBartoRex]

this always seems to happen-- people report that they pop motors and then dissappear for a few days when the obvious questions are asked...

[JimmyMac]

Well it's not like they are obligated to keep us all informed. It's actually a big pain in the ass, and it makes you want to walk away from it all.

Well, gonna start my own thread.... I have some very interesting pictures to post up........

[dcs191919]

Bottom line... These motors should be made to take some abuse... How many sti and evo motors pop with 300 hp?? Mazda needs to recall this engine... new tune and stronger rods.. I have never had a car that has blown up stock or with small bolt-on mods.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by JimmyMac Well it's not like they are obligated to keep us all informed. It's actually a big pain in the ass, and it makes you want to walk away from it all. Well, gonna start my own thread.... I have some very interesting pictures to post up........

Very interested in what you found.

[gofast]

Originally Posted by dcs191919 Bottom line... These motors should be made to take some abuse... How many sti and evo motors pop with 300 hp?? Mazda needs to recall this engine... new tune and stronger rods.. I have never had a car that has blown up stock or with small bolt-on mods.

mazda is going to recall an engine because a handful of people who have modded the engine have had it blow up?? that makes sense

[Frequentflyer]

Originally Posted by Speed'n3 lol...-6 c -6F both are cold as shit in my neck of the woods. BTW....how much is -6c in farenheit degrees?

About 21 degrees F.

[MPS]

so 3 in 1 week NICE !!!

[pidass]

Originally Posted by dcs191919 Bottom line... These motors should be made to take some abuse... How many sti and evo motors pop with 300 hp?? Mazda needs to recall this engine... new tune and stronger rods.. I have never had a car that has blown up stock or with small bolt-on mods.

don't hold your breath

[FantasmoNegro]

Originally Posted by dcs191919 Bottom line... These motors should be made to take some abuse... How many sti and evo motors pop with 300 hp?? Mazda needs to recall this engine... new tune and stronger rods.. I have never had a car that has blown up stock or with small bolt-on mods.

Yeah they are going to recall an engine because we decided to mod it? News flash, none of the factorys could give a fuck about you modding your car, not mitsu, not suby, not mazda, not chevy, not dodge. All they care about is warrenty work, if enough stock ones pop then the next gen will have forged guts, but if they hold together at stock levels as far as the factory is concerned they did their part and could give a shit about anything else. At least Mazda has got some parts out there that will retain your warrenty and still allow you to bump up the power a decent amount. Most factorys don't even offer you that much. If I remember mopar staged parts would get you to about 15hp over stock and everything past that would kill your warrenty time or void it all together. Again do not kid yourself, the factory puts good guts in the motor to protect themselves not so you can mod it.

[clos561]

sounds like it could have gone because of fuel, wouldnt adding a bunch of intake and exhaust bolt ons without adding fuel cause alot of problems? one thing alot of guys forget, more intake + exhaust = need more fuel (aka fuel pump + tune) this guy had neither so his car went boom

[oskinosmee]

No tune= boom. He made a rhyme lmfao

[clos561]

lol jsut realized that

[buttons]

I think the pistons and rods are fine for 300whp, i think the real problem is the tuning/fuel issues. Knock beats the crap out of engines. We are paying the price for being early adopters to Direct Injection...

Ive seen cars with much weaker pistons and rods run fine near 300whp

[ElBartoRex]

Originally Posted by JimmyMac Well it's not like they are obligated to keep us all informed. It's actually a big pain in the ass, and it makes you want to walk away from it all.

Whats the point of starting a thread if you arent going to keep people informed and answer questions? How does that help the community? If you want to walk away from it all, fine no need to start a thread on it until you are ready to talk.

[clos561]

its annoying because u get reminded of what happened. esp something like blown motor or something that prevents you from driving ur car.

[booya620]

It's understandable for people to be tight lipped about their mods/ what was going on when the engine blew. Some people don't want too much info out there because they may be trying to get work done under warranty, especially if the vehicle had only a few bolt-ons on it. we all know that mazda has been said to void warranty work for just having an intake, but who wouldn't try to get it covered under warranty if they can. Hopefully once work is done or warranty has been voided they will come back and explain to us what they had or pm the op and ask for the info. If your a known member of the forums you'll probably get the info for your own personal use.

[Frequentflyer]

Originally Posted by oskinosmee No tune= boom. He made a rhyme lmfao

Calm down Shakespeare. lol

[wisniaPl]

Originally Posted by oskinosmee No tune= boom. He made a rhyme lmfao

that makes me fell more safe never heard of anyone blowing motor with piasini tune.....which means tune is very good......

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by wisniaPl that makes me fell more safe never heard of anyone blowing motor with piasini tune.....which means tune is very good......

no its just not enough people have the tune. what there's maybe 15-20 max

[FantasmoNegro]

Originally Posted by wisniaPl that makes me fell more safe never heard of anyone blowing motor with piasini tune.....which means tune is very good......

Or it means the tune hasn't done anything at all.....I keed I keed.

[bf360]

basically no one is safe, but you have to be smart about things, if your guna do more than a tbe/i you need a fuel pump, also to be safer you need a tune and fuel pump, to be even safer you need meth, bottom line this car doesn't give any room for error, either do it right or don't do it at all

[digitaljedi]

Originally Posted by bf360 basically no one is safe, but you have to be smart about things, if your guna do more than a tbe/i you need a fuel pump, also to be safer you need a tune and fuel pump, to be even safer you need meth, bottom line this car doesn't give any room for error, either do it right or don't do it at all

My car ran like shit even with just intake and tbe, I say with just those mods you should even get a fuel pump and tune. mostly a fuel pump, i still think most of the tunes for this car are b.s.

[ev0nstispanka]

Hey guys sorry for not answering your questions as quickly as I normally would. I want to post up the pix that the dealer took. Supposedly they are saying I blew my rods. I was going about 75MPH for those who wanted to know, on I95 and I was boosting about 5-10psi (which should tell you how much throttle I was putting down). The temps down here are in the 70's all day long. uhhh...yup thanks to the post man who put down my mods and yea it sux guys i fukin love this car to death and i def didnt think that it would happen to me of all people especially with the way things have been going for me. Im super pissed but its a good thing i been able to keep busy and not think abot it as much as anyone else would. I have my car at Gunther Mazda in Davie, FL and svc mgr there says that I need a full motor swap done being that I blew the Oil pan and I have a hole in the side of the motor about 6x6in. Total cost of the repair is about 8k. Im hoping the warranty still covers this but with my luck who knows. yup the motor in this car sucks and its dissapointing that it struggles to maintain 300whp without breaking a rod. I will try to post up pix guys some time this week you know things are really busy for me around this time of the year.

n guys if ANYONE is reading this and your speed3 or speed6 is sputtering/jerking while WOT you are in EXTREME risk of your motor blowing. Its just a matter of time. Little time. My motor lived only until 20,347 Miles.

[bf360]

hey man did you have fuel pump

Sorry for your luck, good luck with warranty work

[digitaljedi]

Originally Posted by Sleeper 362 Yeah they are going to recall an engine because we decided to mod it? News flash, none of the factorys could give a fuck about you modding your car, not mitsu, not suby, not mazda, not chevy, not dodge. All they care about is warrenty work, if enough stock ones pop then the next gen will have forged guts, but if they hold together at stock levels as far as the factory is concerned they did their part and could give a shit about anything else. At least Mazda has got some parts out there that will retain your warrenty and still allow you to bump up the power a decent amount. Most factorys don't even offer you that much. If I remember mopar staged parts would get you to about 15hp over stock and everything past that would kill your warrenty time or void it all together. Again do not kid yourself, the factory puts good guts in the motor to protect themselves not so you can mod it.

what parts do you speak of? they stopped selling and coverinng the intake lllooonnngg ago. and stage one mopar was more than 15hp.

[FantasmoNegro]

Originally Posted by digitaljedi what parts do you speak of? they stopped selling and coverinng the intake lllooonnngg ago. and stage one mopar was more than 15hp.

The intake will be back on shelves in two weeks. Anything past something that netted you 15 hp the dealerships started to downgrade your warrenty. They may still cover it for a year but that was a far cry from the 5 year 60000 miles your car started with.

[digitaljedi]

Originally Posted by Sleeper 362 The intake will be back on shelves in two weeks. Anything past something that netted you 15 hp the dealerships started to downgrade your warrenty. They may still cover it for a year but that was a far cry from the 5 year 60000 miles your car started with.

It will? Where did you hear this? It has been off the market for a year, and even if you bought it back then it voided your warranty as far as I remember.

Irregardless, the they were gone for a year and didn't make your car much faster than stock. stage one srt4 is a better upgrade performance wise and they didn't "downgrade" your warranty. where are you getting this info from? This sounds extremely fabricated and basically sounds like you are just making things up.

You make it sound like mazda had other power mods, did they offer anything besides intake? I am curious. I know they had suspension mods and the like, but as far as power intake was all and it didn't last long. Is there a link that shows that it will be back in two weeks? They pulled it because they realized your motor could blow in this car from even just an intake. Clearly they ran the a/f rations and realized they made a mistake and were opening up themselves to huge liability.

[phillyb]

word, you have fp?
you have any idea what your afr was when this happened?
from what i understand, the motor is around 5800 from mazda, are they also replacing other shit?
edited to add - HOLY SHIT!!!! 6x6?
that's a big fucking hole man