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 Old 03-18-2010, 09:00 AM   #41
 
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What about the APs launch control? Does that one pull fuel...not spark?
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AP fulls fuel

N2MB WOTBox pulls ignition

Im still curious as to others thoughts on the dangers of the WOTbox?
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AP fulls fuel

N2MB WOTBox pulls ignition

Im still curious as to others thoughts on the dangers of the WOTbox?
lets stay on topic here
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Originally Posted by subparpunk03 View Post
Bouncing it off the 2 step? Like what TruBoost is doing here.

YouTube - mazdaspeed 3 with 2 step

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yeah that is being taken off of the car...lol
Thought it was part of the topic?

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Looking at the carnage at home on my own computer that has a decent lcd monitor. the degree of rattle this thing must have been experiencing is pretty bad. The tops of those pistons, which looked even grey-black and plain at work show clearly at home to have been pounded pretty badly. I'm thinking the piston shattered FIRST here. That would be, oddly enough, a testament to the strength of the rotating assembly. i.e., when subjecting to the incredible forces of det or pre-ignition, the piston is the thing that gave way first.

So it's bang, hole one dead, other three still going, flailng remains of 1's piston and rod have a party in the crankcase. BTDT....

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I have no doubt this thing was detonating - esp if he heard it. It's hard to tell what are detonation marks and what are parts of the broken piston from the pics though.
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i have someone coming locally to take the block for free off of my hands it's to no use of me maybe he can post up some pics...i haven't touched the block any more then what you see in the pics
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It's the heavy scouring of the piston carbon in the centre that kind of gives it away for me. The chunks of aluminium, as you say, could be frag from the blast but, they'd have a tough time migrating to other cylinders, even with a rod putting a leg out of the bed.
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HOLY EFF..........!!

Hearing everyone saying "Hey mine blew up too!", "hey me too!" and "yeah, mine too!" scares the shit out of me. I dont know if I want to even TOUCH this car with any kind of mod.

What the HELL??? Are these cars really that "blowupable"???

The Caliber SRT-4 I had may have been ugly but at least I didn't have to worry about THIS!!!
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Don't be a pansy. Look into these latest blowup threads and you'll find all had serious precipitating action by current or previous owners. Boom was inevitable.

If what was done to the car in this thread was done to the fugly Calibre, it would blow up just as well.
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I am thinking.......TWO tudes of JB weld.......Max.....and it is as good as new and maybe some super glue for the small stuff.
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Hole, how's the build going? I'll try to get some pics of my blow up disaster to share this coming week. They pulled the engine today and John with PTP said he is going to work with me on the price of a short block. I will know more tomorrow. I was getting some kr before the fuel pump install a couple weeks ago which everyone thought was normal. Then after the fuel pump 6.5 at around 3500rpms in every gear and 1-2 at wot which was supposed to be tuned out today actually. Had to do the break in before the tune adjustment the engine just did not make it. Hope everything working out for ya bro, I'm in the same boat. Just paid a shit ton of money a couple months ago to mod the car and finally had the tune almost 100% and now this crap.
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Originally Posted by Spoolme View Post
Hole, how's the build going? I'll try to get some pics of my blow up disaster to share this coming week. They pulled the engine today and John with PTP said he is going to work with me on the price of a short block. I will know more tomorrow. I was getting some kr before the fuel pump install a couple weeks ago which everyone thought was normal. Then after the fuel pump 6.5 at around 3500rpms in every gear and 1-2 at wot which was supposed to be tuned out today actually. Had to do the break in before the tune adjustment the engine just did not make it. Hope everything working out for ya bro, I'm in the same boat. Just paid a shit ton of money a couple months ago to mod the car and finally had the tune almost 100% and now this crap.
mine is slowly happening...i sold my PG Reworked K04, TRZ TMIC & MSCAI (didn't have a straightener)...I picked up a K04 & Stock TMIC (for my break in period for my motor.) I will be running a ATP GT3071R, PG EWG Mani, Corksport DP, PG Midpipe, Mazdaspeed Catback, Mr. Lilguy HPFP, Cobb SRI, ATP Inlet and some FMIC with a Standback or Cobb AP...

So i still need to get a ATP Inlet, FMIC, Tuning solution, get PG Mani setup for EWG, FORGED INTERNALS, Tial EWG, and a bunch of other shit for the motor.....

Unfortunately being laid off for a long while doesn't help so i will have to do all of this with my unemployment check. I expect to be up and running maybe in July.
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Originally Posted by darth vader View Post
It's the heavy scouring of the piston carbon in the centre that kind of gives it away for me. The chunks of aluminium, as you say, could be frag from the blast but, they'd have a tough time migrating to other cylinders, even with a rod putting a leg out of the bed.
Remember that you get direct fuel spray on the piston crown that removes deposits an carbon - this is the pattern you seen. I don't see too much out of the ordinary there without a real close-up.
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Originally Posted by holeinmypocket View Post
mine is slowly happening...i sold my PG Reworked K04, TRZ TMIC & MSCAI (didn't have a straightener)...I picked up a K04 & Stock TMIC (for my break in period for my motor.) I will be running a ATP GT3071R, PG EWG Mani, Corksport DP, PG Midpipe, Mazdaspeed Catback, Mr. Lilguy HPFP, Cobb SRI, ATP Inlet and some FMIC with a Standback or Cobb AP...

So i still need to get a ATP Inlet, FMIC, Tuning solution, get PG Mani setup for EWG, FORGED INTERNALS, Tial EWG, and a bunch of other shit for the motor.....

Unfortunately being laid off for a long while doesn't help so i will have to do all of this with my unemployment check. I expect to be up and running maybe in July.
wish my taxes didnt pay for your modding....but hey if you can do it...more power to you =D...i know i would
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Yeah but, isn't the injector side mounted on this motor? That should produce a fan shape to any scouring action, this is rippin' right from centre out....You're right though, without a real close up in fine detail, hard to be sure.
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