by chris...do you mean laloosh or christian at cobb?

i wana get in this everyone stop bitching cpe cobb who cares.its a personal choice.the fact sahow cpe got higher umber and more friendly then cobb thats it simple dun.Car didnt blow up cause it was cobb or becouse it was cpe it just blew.wow its like watching little school girls fucking argue.now let this thread get back on topic goood damn everyone is so damn tough online.

It seems like Meth & a fuel pump will take you a long way.

i hate people who suck vendors dick.if the product work ok fine it works but dont kiss there fucking asss.people on here ride vendors dick.nock it off ...........

if you want, ill be MORE than happy to do a comparison between the two, CORRECTLY. That last comparison was complete bullshit and anyone who says differently, is purely, full of shit.

Believe me, i could of done the same fuckin shit to you guys and showed the AP, as the superior device.

Wait a second, how is it a design fault? The rods are designed for the current power level and pressure from the K04. Anything you get after that, is a gimme. I dont see where this design fault is? Did Mazda tell you guys that this engine can make 385 hp on a GT30x?

Granted, we are seeing a 25% increase over power the car puts out stock and we have been alright. All bets are off when you strap a larger compressor on the car. You are on borrowed time, nothing more.

knock yourself out pal, BUY a standback and go do it.
There was nothigng fishy about my dyno...the fucken car was tuned by the creater, went through 7 or 8 revision for my car and my car only and put down 40whp less. No meth did not add 40 whp.

Im not gonna meantion names here but a bt car that is roughly 2-3 hour from me put down 55whp LESS with the ap as well. maybe its an east coast thing.

The shop i dyned out last, well im not even going to say what he told us cause he might lose his protuner status....btw he can protune the ms3 and has, and shit made no real power. Call them up if you dont believe me.

As to why cobb and my results got brought into this then i got blamed for it? FUCK YOU ALL....i beleive i was the first to say NO its not the tunes fault

um 4 stock motors have thrown rods like 6 light bolt on ones 4 bigturbo ones 4 full bolt on ones you act like only the ones blowing are bigturbo. The only pattern to all these motors blowing is none cause there all throwing rods regardless of what mods are on them.

Oh boy here comes the second wave of off topic comments in response to this post.

the fucken idiots on this board are the reason people are trading this thing left and right....nothign but bullshit followed by drama. I dont even know why im sticking around anymore

oh yeah I never mentioned this but when I blew my turbo there was two ms6's and one blown motor MS3 sitting at the dealer waiting for motors. None of these guys are on the forums from what I can tell and one guy had an intake only on the MS3. You go tell him he shouldn't have blown up cause he didn't have a bigturbo and full boltons on his car. You guys are going off just what we hear on the forum but go to the mazdaspeed dealers in your area and just ask them if they've had any mazdaspeed 3's or 6's and watch the results you get......

Whats the name of the shop.

dig around my last dyno day. The guy was real prick that day so if you dont find something in 2 hours ill probably say fuck it and give you the name of the shop and the person who said it, cause at this point i really dont give a fuck

who EFI? first off, NOBODY on the east coast can protune the MS3, how do I know? Because ive been looking for it for months, I asked Christian himself as well. Dont make shit up.

bye?
you are 90% of the drama on this board, so grab a mirror

people are trading their cars because of drama on this board? some may be, but not the majority. most guys who have traded the car have said they are gonna stay ON the board because of how close we all are.

i think our community is far better than most, and our platform needs work...lol

so do i get to smack you in the face when i drive with you to the shop that will do it? Your a fucken idiot if you believe what vendors tell you. Who test what, what were the results, who can and cant do something....that is one thing you have to see for yourself befor you trust ANY vendor
and i love how im 90 percent of the drama on this board when id dint even start the ap thing in this thread. If infact i am 90 percent of the bullshit on this board....then i shouldnt be driving this car. Makes my decision much easier

go for it little big man

I guess christian was lying to me when he said nobody had it besides PDX because it was still in beta

i think there have been some east coast happenings. I know back in the spring, christian told me they were coming out here to work with some shops and protune some cars. whether it ever happened or not i dont know.
A local subbie place from me called Draco Performance(about an hour away)... i think they may have used some protuned stuff too. I know in July they had a maxda protuner day planned. I dont know what became of it.

Plus... doesnt Tim Bailey travel? Id want to hear more on this.... maybe Kevin can shed some light.

like i said, believing what vendors tell you is just about the dumbest thing you can do.

Btw if your seroius, let me know, im hope in with you cause my car will be getting body work done starting saturday. We can take a nice lil ride and you can get your own custom failing map

with unreleased beta software
sweet

yep, its working for all these 300whp surgeline guys....so why wouldnt it work for you?
Do you honestly believe that you need the cobb software to tune with the ap? LOL you do realize that there are many electrical eng. out there that can crack that shit in their sleep right?

EFI Logics is most likely the premeir East coast cobb tuner, Cobb praises them for their ability with their software. I spoke with the owner who is good friends with boosted33 and he told me that THE MINUTE he could get the software he would tune with it.

so cobb is holding back from him as well.

I dont know what you are refering to, but right about now im gonna toss ya in a boat with PTP and send ya down the river to talk strategies.

huh, so first it was I didnt know that the software was out there
now its they are using something else to tune it

which is it?

who the f is maddog to groan at me.Get a life homie.

chris... if you want to get rid of the car just do it man. Id actually be excited for you, even tho id miss you around here. and as far as all you other cats knocking chris....please dont.

most of the points hes made...DO add up when it comes to the AP. He might not have had a "scientific" comparison, but who gives a shit. Its a comparison none the less. And chris has been more responsible for posting RESULTS...good, bad, or ugly than any guy in the community. I think its bullshit that he gets baited so damn much around here. I do too for that matter. i get told i get baited cause its "easy". Its bullshit. Well its "easy" with chris too. Its easy to bait him and then when he flys off the handle you forget who ACTUALLY started the edrama in this thread. Go back and look... it wasnt me or chris. It was someone else. But somehow its us that always gets blamed.

And again... Chris, i know your frustrated. But just sell the car if thats what you want. The vast majority of us will miss you if you do. But it seems like thats where youre headed and id hate for you to poison the waters in the meantime.

its both....you people are in so much denial. i will pull the ptp thing here and say if you only knew what has and hasnt been done. What gets posted on PUBLIC forums and what happens in real life....never the same.

honestly if there was a new car out, one of those 'omg i have to have this thing" type of cars there would be a part out thread right now.

evo x didnt fit right
sti i didnt like
caliber ehhhhh
350z i like but cant do 2 seater thing
s2000, dont fit in it
Im starting to look at used cars.....if i find a evo 9, the car i wanted to begin with if it wasnt for rose's bitching, im gone....finding one of those is hard as hell though

In the mean time i keep ordering parts and moving forward with the ms3, if it blows up, im done

so so true.

i cant say i blame you.. were in different boats. I would say i wish youd wait through the winter just to see what we do accomplish in the next 6 months. But youre so aggressive, i can understand why you wouldnt. If youre only going to do this once, why not 700-800 hp right..lol?

Anyway.... I say do the rsx thing man. Thats what you really want. I know it.

Laloosh its hard to argue with you when you flip the subject so often.
I forgot what you were defending at this point.

I do remember you were telling me a second ago that the protuner software was out, but maybe you meant something else ya? because then you went onto you dont need cobb software to tune the AP, now you are talking about how people are in denial?

Ive dated women like you.

to people that dont know what actually goes on outside of the forums....its considered jumping around cause they can't keep up when everything is summarized.

and in the end those women probably drained you of a couple grand, got laid and moved on to something better lol

As far as I'm concerned, everything that goes on "private" is total bullshit until I see some evidence. I guess I might as well spread the word privately that my ms3 has been protuned for a year making 500whp. Its your bullshit testing procedures and "non public" shit that disrupt this forum. Do everyone a favor and get your evo and be done here.

i got a different take on that of course, but I cant really argue your point.
fucking slutty bitches
all good though, its all gravy where im at now

anyway, as much as it may seem like I am against you, I am not. I dont even dislike you, I enjoy a good arguement and if you want to smack me in the head if you ever see me, go for it, Im big enough to take a shot or 3 and I wouldnt take it personally. I smack my friends all the time and they make sure to return the favor.

lol. Hey Chris looks like you have your first official "hater". congrats

christian at cobb. they are two blown engines at the dealer where i have my car, i can post pic tomorrow, one of them only has 2200 miles completely and the other has around 3500 miles on it, both threw a rod and guess what both on cylinder 4.

Loosh, you dyno'd at Verocious Motorsports....is that the shop you are referring to that can tune with the AP?

when you going to come down to LI and play with us? :salook:

your right....help me find out and ill be gone quicker.
its fools liek you who believe everything they are told that make people like me furious to the point of arguing over the internet. Why do i do? In the end people think cause companies pay me of or throw parts at me to keep me quiet....no in the ends its to let every1 know what works and what doesnt. Every1 says my ap/cpe dyno was flawd and bullshit...think what you want but id ont see any1 else on here owning both, paying for both, paying for the dyno time, and spending the time tuning both....until some1 doesn, all of you who bitch about it, can kiss my ass

I know you may think id never go for that, but Ive been considering it for quite some time.
Im friends with Jeff (big guy who always wears hoodies), so maybe ill swing by if I get the time.
in all honesty I do want to run against ya, win or loose it would be fun.
Im also running 23+ psi, so it would be alot closer than most guys still on stock turbos

Um, you have it backwards man. I don't believe everything I'm told...in fact im skeptical of everything on this forum. Why do you think I call everything you say bullshit? LOL. I believe what I see and feel. I'm running stage 1+ 1.03 and it feels great. I want to see a cobb protuned car by Tim or cobb on a dyno, then have a pro sb tuner tune the same car with the sb on the same dyno. THAT will make me believe.