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Laloosh 12-02-2008 06:37 PM
meth alone wont change that....it a combo of when to spray the meth and when to begin to add fuel. To many poeple tune with the standback late in the voltage range. This whole thing with piggybacks working only at wot throttle....i dont think that holds true when it comes to this car. I can change my idle timing and ltft by adding or subratcting fuel in the maf table/ignition tables.....and the shit holds for days

I have retarded timing at idle to the point of the car stalling and throwing fuel....tech that shouldnt be possible with a piggy back. Stock timing is 9-11 degrees at idle, ive ran 17 for over a week and nothing changed it back to 9-11.....

phailerider 12-02-2008 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Darksun280 (Post 116299)
Man my wallet is in intensive care right now but I gotta get that FT flash your right.....

Some one Sponsor me damn it!!! lol
what can you afford? pick a number.

ispypsi 12-02-2008 06:42 PM
oh lawdy, and i thought nissan owners couldn't get along.

OP, sucks about the car. i'm not sure how the clip holding the wrist pin could get out if it was basically against the wall of the cylinder. seems as if it were an oiling problem, and there was some form of seizing going on at the rod/piston wrist, and as the piston broke, the pin happened to fall down and be at the bottom of the pan, intact. the piston would have to have broken for the pin to fall "inwards" toward the center of the cylinder without scrambling the sidewall of the cylinder (have you seen those yet? are they scored up badly?)


so when does the AEM EMS come out for the MS3? i want my 5 minutes back.

phailerider 12-02-2008 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Laloosh (Post 116300)
meth alone wont change that....it a combo of when to spray the meth and when to begin to add fuel. To many poeple tune with the standback late in the voltage range. This whole thing with piggybacks working only at wot throttle....i dont think that holds true when it comes to this car. I can change my idle timing and ltft by adding or subratcting fuel in the maf table/ignition tables.....and the shit holds for days

I have retarded timing at idle to the point of the car stalling and throwing fuel....tech that shouldnt be possible with a piggy back. Stock timing is 9-11 degrees at idle, ive ran 17 for over a week and nothing changed it back to 9-11.....
i agree. ive been getting a ton of fuel in partial spoolups right where we added it wot. makes the car gurgle/pop a little more than it used to during shifts out of those rpm ranges. you think thats related or not?

Laloosh 12-02-2008 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by palerider (Post 116302)
what can you afford? pick a number.
sounds like a deal to me

crazyitalian041 12-02-2008 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by palerider (Post 116302)
what can you afford? pick a number.
;)

Laloosh 12-02-2008 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by palerider (Post 116309)
i agree. ive been getting a ton of fuel in partial spoolups right where we added it wot. makes the car gurgle/pop a little more than it used to during shifts out of those rpm ranges. you think thats related or not?
absolutly it does....look at the cpe vta tune....high rpm LOW THROTTLE VOLTAGE, pull -81 percent of fuel. That means when your off the gas at a high rpm, almost all the fuel is pulled. If piggybacks didnt work in closed loop...their vta tunes would not work

phailerider 12-02-2008 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyitalian041 (Post 116311)
;)
are you getting help on your prices robbie? or sponsorship even? your car is gonna be the main beta car for most of the stuff i hope to eventually have. i hope theyre looking out for you.

TiZi 12-02-2008 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Darksun280 (Post 116297)
Meth FTW? lol
Agreed 100%. BTW after reading these forums for close to two years now, I can confidently say that this smackdown dude is the most fucked up shithead I have ever seen post. Pardon me, I meant confused gentelman.........Cheers all!!!

crazyitalian041 12-02-2008 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by palerider (Post 116315)
are you getting help on your prices robbie? or sponsorship even? your car is gonna be the main beta car for most of the stuff i hope to eventually have. i hope theyre looking out for you.
Well Randy, to be honest I dont know shit about my car. I havent seen it since i gave the keys to them all those months ago.. I know I am probably getting a pretty good price on some of the parts but most I had already before hand. Sponsorship I have no idea, I think cp-e will sponsor me and p3 and street unit already does but thats nothing big to me. I dont know, guess we will see.

phailerider 12-02-2008 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TiZi (Post 116317)
Agreed 100%. BTW after reading these forums for close to two years now, I can confidently say that this smackdown dude is the most fucked up shithead I have ever seen post. Pardon me, I meant confused gentelman.........Cheers all!!!
lol... coming from tom this is the funniest post of 2008. btw... smakdowns ok... hes just ranting alittle here today. As we all are i suppose. Everybodys selling their damn ride and pulses are up.

Darksun280 12-02-2008 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyitalian041 (Post 116320)
Well Randy, to be honest I dont know shit about my car. I havent seen it since i gave the keys to them all those months ago.. I know I am probably getting a pretty good price on some of the parts but most I had already before hand. Sponsorship I have no idea, I think cp-e will sponsor me and p3 and street unit already does but thats nothing big to me. I dont know, guess we will see.
For normal people this shit is too expensive. Between rent car note and insurance I don't know how people do this shit. If I moved back home this probably wouldn't be so bad. Cp-E's a good company to be sponsored by even cobb is cause they are producing a full range of products for the car.

crazyitalian041 12-02-2008 07:12 PM
yep... im gonna be heh.

2nr 12-02-2008 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by palerider (Post 116321)
Everybodys selling their damn ride and pulses are up.
I'll tell ya though, it has been great not having to worry about the motor popping anymore:01:

Grim 12-02-2008 07:35 PM
i dont even worry about my engine popping.I beat the piss out of my car everyday and no problems.Hell i even did a 5TH gear datalog for the hell of it lol.If it pops it pops.

phailerider 12-02-2008 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 2nr (Post 116339)
I'll tell ya though, it has been great not having to worry about the motor popping anymore:01:
whatd you get again? i cant keep track any more.

2nr 12-02-2008 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Grim (Post 116347)
i dont even worry about my engine popping.I beat the piss out of my car everyday and no problems.Hell i even did a 5TH gear datalog for the hell of it lol.If it pops it pops.

well being as far as I was, popping the motor for driving under normal conditions isn't something that I was looking forward to.

crazyitalian041 12-02-2008 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by palerider (Post 116349)
whatd you get again? i cant keep track any more.
He has an evox, look at his avy :D

2nr 12-02-2008 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by palerider (Post 116349)
whatd you get again? i cant keep track any more.
08 Evo X GSR... soon to have another full slew of cp-e parts on it

jtspells 12-02-2008 07:47 PM
Jesus people what is the real issue anyway? Just relax drink a beer and chill out

phailerider 12-02-2008 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 2nr (Post 116353)
08 Evo X GSR... soon to have another full slew of cp-e parts on it
i just made a thread for all you guys. Post up there and let us have it!!

2nr 12-02-2008 08:06 PM
already did

k0m 12-02-2008 09:38 PM
hmmm im just curious about something i dont have an ap nor am i running a mbc but, why would u not want to run these together? sorry if its a noob question

bf360 12-02-2008 10:13 PM
the op is a retard what did you expect running a bt with an ap and a mbc

and enough with the arguing and sooo many threads going to shit lol

bf360 12-02-2008 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Darksun280 (Post 116261)
Gotta think more out side the box. I was only netting 1-3 hp per psi over 22psi. What ever hopefully we can race some time while I'm still on stock turbo cause god only knows how fucked up my car may be once i try to throw this 60-1on . My cars changing pretty quick though I have a real 3inch exhaust now as of sunday and a TXS fmic. I'm semi curious to go dyno again and try to take back my highest stock turbo dyno from Chris. 7 hp shouldn't be so hard to make up. Might even go for Tizi's SS turbo numbers. I did the math and the stock topmount was what was stoping my numbers from going up. It just can't flow the air I was trying to stuff through it.
let me kno if you wana dyno before you do bt il take a ride

ptperformance 12-02-2008 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by palerider (Post 116284)

Dont blame loosh likes hes pot this kettle that.... these companys themselves are responsible for exactly what theyve ended up getting. loosh has simply stated/ tested what works and stated/ tested what hasnt. And hes done it for EVERYBODY. Since when is that supposed to be a bad thing. If anything it lends credibility to what he supports, and what he doesnt.
But wait, he has bashed me and my product (or lack there of) for many months now? I guess I am the exception to that comment you made. How can you support something you have never even seen little alone ran on your car? Nuff said.

phailerider 12-02-2008 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ptperformance (Post 116457)
But wait, he has bashed me and my product (or lack there of) for many months now? I guess I am the exception to that comment you made. How can you support something you have never even seen little alone ran on your car? Nuff said.
hes desperately wanted to run "something" from you for months now. i think specifically engine mounts, maybe? he bashes the fact that to date there hasnt been anything. until you make something you ARE the exception. you fall into a different category of loosh bashing....lol "the lack thereof" IS what he is bashing. It wouldnt be a problem except for the promises broken.

that said... good luck with the mounts. im looking forward to kevins writeup and impressions and im still in the market for something of the sort myself. i wont hold it against you. if theyre as good as they sound id gladly fork the dough over and run the hell out of em.

Haltech 12-03-2008 01:00 AM
As soon as i receive the mount, its going in with a write up to boot, fairly quickly. These stock mounts are shit and John came up with a clever way to address this problem.

blackmica08 12-03-2008 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bf360 (Post 116449)
the op is a retard what did you expect running a bt with an ap and a mbc

and enough with the arguing and sooo many threads going to shit lol

hey turd face who told you i was running a mbc, dont drink and read.

bova 12-03-2008 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by blackmica08 (Post 115745)
first of all i had my wastegate ported out to avoid ant boost creep, also i was running a custom veta map 93 oct set at 18psi, which it never saw more than 17 psi because i had set my turboxs boost controller at 17psi. like i said i was out of boost when it happened 2nd gear 3500rpm . when the car was put at the lift and the black plastic cover taken out there were pieces of the block and the piston pin resting on the cover, also the piston clip came off without breaking, the tech is a personal friend and he said that clip is not enough to hold that piston, he had done a couple of ms3 which had problem on cylinder 4 which mazda knows theres a problem with cylinder 4. i will get all of you doubters more pictures of the car with full bolts on at the dealer as it is.
you said right here you are using a boost controller.

blackmica08 12-03-2008 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bova80 (Post 116546)
you said right here you are using a boost controller.
i thought he meant a map clamp, whats wrong with using a boost controller to turn down the boost.

phailerider 12-03-2008 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by blackmica08 (Post 116552)
i thought he meant a map clamp, whats wrong with using a boost controller to turn down the boost.
lol... you need to retract the "dont drink and read turdface" comment above id say

Darksun280 12-03-2008 07:39 AM
I'm starting to get the feeling he doesn't know how this car works there for the popped motor is looking more and more like his fault.

SLS MS3 12-03-2008 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Darksun280 (Post 116279)
the mazdaspeedgt08 AP car 314whp 338tq
I thought he did 305/325

Darksun280 12-03-2008 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SLS MS3 (Post 116608)
I thought he did 305/325
he says he did 314 @ 18 psi but for safety reasons he got bumped down to the numbers you stated.

blackmica08 12-03-2008 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by palerider (Post 116575)
lol... you need to retract the "dont drink and read turdface" comment above id say

true that, hey can you explain to me whats the deal of using a mbc with the ap, cause darsun280 is ready to put the blame on me.

Darksun280 12-03-2008 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by blackmica08 (Post 116612)
true that, hey can you explain to me whats the deal of using a mbc with the ap, cause datsun280 is ready to put the blame on me.
Hey I was trying to defend you but the more you type the more holes you punched in the boat. This is the exact reason peoples lawyers tell them to not say anything with out them present lol.

SLS MS3 12-03-2008 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by blackmica08 (Post 116612)
hey can you explain to me whats the deal of using a mbc with the ap.
That really is the kind of question you should ask before you blow your motor.

smakdown61 12-03-2008 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Darksun280 (Post 116611)
he says he did 314 @ 18 psi but for safety reasons he got bumped down to the numbers you stated.
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...e-11-26-a.html

He did 285 on 16 psi and 300 on 18 psi according to the dyno charts. It was bumped down to 16 psi until he installs a catch can. Did he state somewhere else in the thread the other numbers? I didn't feel like reading the other posts lol.

blackmica08 12-03-2008 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Darksun280 (Post 116614)
Hey I was trying to defend you but the more you type the more holes you punched in the boat. This is the exact reason peoples lawyers tell them to not say anything with out them present lol.
all i asked is whats the harm of using a mbc with the ap, will you clarify it for me if it doesnt bother you sir.


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