BOOM-'FREAKIN-BOOM

[GQ_WhiteMS3]

I think I've now made that decission too ... I'm going to still try to find an ETS TMIC, and call it quits at that ... If I have to take the car in for anything, the SRI and TMIC, BPV, Testpipe will swap out in about 40 min, and it still should be fun.

Realistically there are more important things to spend the money on. Maybe in a few years when my cars paid off and someones determined WHAT makes this car go boom, I'll start it up again and make it a project car, but this is my DD so I really shouldn't be messing with it too much.

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by ms3jake Are you really going back to stock? My clutch is slipping some so when I get ACT clutch/flywheel put in im going back to stock. I may leave the cobb sri in since it's so easy to swap (gotta have something) I think Ill have more fun with my car overall stock than having a little more power and worrying all of the time every time I step on it.

Yup I'll be stock by this Friday. I'm going to make a thread about it on Friday probably.

[Smokehouse]

I hate to say this...but this is why I'm only doing the SRI and BPV...I'm just too afraid to pop this thing.

It's sad as 4cyl cars can be fun to play with, just not this one I guess.

[GQ_WhiteMS3]

Originally Posted by FORZDA 1 You know of course the damage is done and you will blow as soon as you're back stock. Then we'll add another "stock" DISI blown to the list... Let's hope not! Good Luck!

But if THAT happens ... then he'll have a SHOT at warranty

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by FORZDA 1 You know of course the damage is done and you will blow as soon as you're back stock. Then we'll add another "stock" DISI blown to the list... Let's hope not! Good Luck!

Well thing for me is my car was destined to blow from the moment I signed the paperwork for for it at the dealer. I've blown up every other car I owned so why not this one. What doesn't sit well for me that the parts are so expensive and building the motor is a waste of time. I'm all for burning up money to mod a car but damn atleast let me get something out of it.

The only difference between my 1k invested 320WHP stock turbo MS3 and my current 6k invested 330whp bigturbo Ms3 is 5 grand of wasted money and 10 whp. Not all the cars fault I half to blame.

[DaleNixon]

Originally Posted by GQ_WhiteMS3 I think I've now made that decission too ... I'm going to still try to find an ETS TMIC, and call it quits at that ... If I have to take the car in for anything, the SRI and TMIC, BPV, Testpipe will swap out in about 40 min, and it still should be fun. Realistically there are more important things to spend the money on. Maybe in a few years when my cars paid off and someones determined WHAT makes this car go boom, I'll start it up again and make it a project car, but this is my DD so I really shouldn't be messing with it too much.

That's the same mod cocktail I've got, minus the test pipe. I'm done with power adders after that until it's paid off.

[badams118]

Originally Posted by Darksun280 If it was power or abuse related me and many others would be LONG ago blown up. If it was tune related I would be blown up LONG time ago cause I've been on stock ECU this entire time. boosted 30+ psi blew turbo and injector seals but still here Boosted 27psi on the dyno 3 times still here raced the car on 19-24 psi for over 9 months still here Threw a 60-1 on the car cranked it up to 27 psi made no big power BUT still here....... Trust me its not power or abuse related cause my motor would be the first one called home to mazda heaven if that was the case. That's why there's no sense fearing the thrown rod gremlins cause its all a gamble. Enjoy your car mod it how you want to and drive it how you want to. When your time comes it will come. If you don't want it to come leave the car stock, stock the car out, or trade it in.

"I've had meth from 6k miles"

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! How many cars with meth have blown? One, afaik, and the damage was probably done before the meth. I still don't think it's the random flaw theory.

Also, not to start a food fight here, but look at how many are Standback users, and how many are stock ECU or AP. Just add up the numbers.


So I was bored & decided to do the math.

Stock/MBC: 15 (1 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 12 18 19 20 22 27 28)
Standback: 4 (2 11 15 23)
AP: 3 (14 21 29)

The Stock/MBC is weighted pretty high because I assumed Stock/MBC if no other tuning was mentioned. Also, I am sure the AP numbers will jump with the release of ATR.

[DaleNixon]

How easy is it to go back to stock from meth injection?

[mouse0330]

There is too much speculation, there is NOT one reason or solution (meth) in order for the engine to blow or not to blow. There are too many scenarios, there was even a ms6 with 78k miles highly modded who blown an engine a couple of weeks ago.
and to the guys that wants to pitch in the money to pinpoint the problem, you're getting over your head, first, money...lots of money, then finding the right people, then giving them the right info, parts ..ie the blown engine and the vehicle that the engine is in...they have to diagnose every part ie bov, intake, exhaust, fuel pump, etc etc..you get the point. Its not cheap, they get paid by the hour, much more than a measly mech..

basically its just a pain to solve this, Mazda has the answer and they are not telling.

I don't believe that this engine blown that easy, most that blown are under 300hp, some barely made 300. I believe there is some faulty engine and with a combination of mod added increase the chance of blown engine. That is the only reason I haven't got any ecu management system. The ETS TMIC is my last mod, I was thinking about getting a downpipe down the road, but I'll have to wait a little longer.
I have over 53k miles now,
I have cobb sri,inlet,swaybar,tmic, both pmm and tmm not install, also not install occ.
have cs inserts but order cpe rmm on the way. The car is running great, better than new with sec set of tires yoko advan, definitely will get the ms coilover later.

okay now that you know what I have, lol here is a funny question, what's the chance of my engine will go.

one thing for sure if it does....I'll cry about it sniff'sniff..and won't post about it..j/k

[badams118]

It's not speculation. If you pay attention you will see a pattern. It's not a Mazda conspiracy, either.

[mdogg]

Originally Posted by badams118 It's not speculation. If you pay attention you will see a pattern. It's not a Mazda conspiracy, either.

wow... it's not wonder bullshit rumors stick around so long

then what is the pattern? are you saying METH is the savior? after only ~100 guys running meth, you're prepared to say that?

amazing

Kevin needs to add some more challenging questions to complete the registration process instead of the just "type the capital letters"....

[802MS3]

^^I like what it says in your sig, lol.

[mdogg]

Originally Posted by opt_ms3 ^^I like what it says in your sig, lol.

it's all about the marketing!

[SharkDiver]

Originally Posted by badams118 It's not speculation. If you pay attention you will see a pattern. It's not a Mazda conspiracy, either.

If you think you know why they are blowing then why dont you tell us all about it..Answer is you dont know so it is speculation.You also dont know that mazda doesnt know what the problem is.I dont think its a conspiracy against us but I do think they know where the weak spot is in our engines and maybe they have fixed it already but they dont want to do a mas recall to tear down everyones motors to fix it.
Im wondering how many 09s have blown...

[BoostIsBetter]

here's my question? I feel like all these blown engines are 2007 or 2008 ms3's? Does anyone know of any 2008.5 or 2009 engines blowing? I can't recall. I have an 2009, and obviously I'm paranoid about modding, but just checking in. Cause I think it seems to be all the 2007's.

[whoosh@Realtune]

Originally Posted by BoostIsBetter here's my question? I feel like all these blown engines are 2007 or 2008 ms3's? Does anyone know of any 2008.5 or 2009 engines blowing? I can't recall. I have an 2009, and obviously I'm paranoid about modding, but just checking in. Cause I think it seems to be all the 2007's.

there are certain model years and colors that are safe from engine failure
it's a secret code from Mazda but can be unlocked by using the same code as used for Contra

[HighSun_Murder]

Originally Posted by whoosh there are certain model years and colors that are safe from engine failure it's a secret code from Mazda but can be unlocked by using the same code as used for Contra

LOL!!!!
:phillyb:

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by whoosh there are certain model years and colors that are safe from engine failure it's a secret code from Mazda but can be unlocked by using the same code as used for Contra

Can this be input through the stereo controls or do i need to purchase some sort of turning device to activate the code?

[whoosh@Realtune]

Originally Posted by Darksun280 Can this be input through the stereo controls or do i need to purchase some sort of turning device to activate the code?

the dealer can unlock it or you can use the Cobb AP

my son thought the AP was an MP3 player when he saw it on the counter
I told him it would be more useful as one (up until the point of ATR of course)



OK, I'll stop now

[JumpingJackson]

gas gas brake brake turn left turn right turn left turn right radio preset 1 radio preset 2

[johnnyspeed6]

Originally Posted by Darksun280 Can this be input through the stereo controls or do i need to purchase some sort of turning device to activate the code?

dont forget select > start after that code !! unlimited lives !!

[whoosh@Realtune]

Originally Posted by FORZDA 1 Well, I have a dyno appointment on May 2 for my Speed6 so I'll see what the AP with an E-tune from Christian can do before I start fiddling with it via ATR. SOTP and the DH tells me the car is pretty quick, but I have no idea on the HP...

I thought the same thing about my e tune but when the pulls were finished, I walked over to the LCD screen only to find this


i KID i KID
like said many times
my set up was impossible for someone to take on especially over email and cheesy DH logs
I'd bet if in person, with me at the dyno - Christian could have done right by my car and wish that would have been the situation

[badams118]

Originally Posted by opt_ms3 ^^I like what it says in your sig, lol.

Haha! Nice catch!

[badams118]

Originally Posted by SharkDiver If you think you know why they are blowing then why dont you tell us all about it..Answer is you dont know so it is speculation.You also dont know that mazda doesnt know what the problem is.I dont think its a conspiracy against us but I do think they know where the weak spot is in our engines and maybe they have fixed it already but they dont want to do a mas recall to tear down everyones motors to fix it. Im wondering how many 09s have blown...

I did tell you about it. Meth & a fuel pump will go a long way towards saving your ass. I really don't care who believes me or not, but I simply don't buy into the "bad luck/Mazda sucks" theory.

Place your bets gentlemen!

[bf360]

Originally Posted by FORZDA 1 Well, I have a dyno appointment on May 2 for my Speed6 so I'll see what the AP with an E-tune from Christian can do before I start fiddling with it via ATR. SOTP and the DH tells me the car is pretty quick, but I have no idea on the HP...

lol thats what veryone says

[SharkDiver]

Originally Posted by badams118 I did tell you about it. Meth & a fuel pump will go a long way towards saving your ass. I really don't care who believes me or not, but I simply don't buy into the "bad luck/Mazda sucks" theory. Place your bets gentlemen!

Ya,Detonation may have alot to do with it also..I will be running meth on my new motor along with the new thrust bearings just to be safe.Crankwalk may be a problem also.

[Meder]

I think the meth theory is better than the BSD theory thats often thrown around. Nearly all of the bolted guys and big turbo guys that are on meth seem to be going strong. Who has blown on meth that has not just put the meth on/spiked 30 psi/whatever?


I dont think meth is some magical fairy dust that allowed Mr darksun to beat the shit out of his car day in and day out, but I think it helped a fair bit and he may not be here without it today.

[bf360]

Originally Posted by SharkDiver If you think you know why they are blowing then why dont you tell us all about it..Answer is you dont know so it is speculation.You also dont know that mazda doesnt know what the problem is.I dont think its a conspiracy against us but I do think they know where the weak spot is in our engines and maybe they have fixed it already but they dont want to do a mas recall to tear down everyones motors to fix it. Im wondering how many 09s have blown...

Wasnt there someone who said that mazda changed something in the 08.5/09 motors? not saying an 08.5 or 09 wont blow, but i think they did something about the blown engines, wasnt there a better bearing of some sort put it? I cant remember what it was

[mdogg]

Originally Posted by Meder I think the meth theory is better than the BSD theory thats often thrown around. Nearly all of the bolted guys and big turbo guys that are on meth seem to be going strong. Who has blown on meth that has not just put the meth on/spiked 30 psi/whatever? I dont think meth is some magical fairy dust that allowed Mr darksun to beat the shit out of his car day in and day out, but I think it helped a fair bit and he may not be here without it today.

What about 22psi+ on a GT35 without meth.... I could've sworn there was a member doing that for a number of months without issue

[Meder]

Anyone have any more info on that? I know there seem to be a lot less 08.5/09's blowing, but they havent been around as long either.


ive had a 08 and a 08.5 ms3, both cars really acted the same and got the same old bullshit knock and cuts.

[Meder]

Originally Posted by mdogg What about 22psi+ on a GT35 without meth.... I could've sworn there was a member doing that for a number of months without issue

Which he eventually blew? I dont know, you tell me. I believe meth helps the disi based off of what I have seen and read. I dont have anything to back this up just like everyone else. I personally believe the meth theory is better than The BSD theory, nothing more.


I dont know whats going on and no one else seems to either.

[mdogg]

^^^ didn't blow...

[bf360]

are you guys talking about ron?

[fhaze]

I am no expert by any means...but my gut feeling is Cumulative Knock Damage.

Thats why it's not really consistent..have a guy mildly untuned for months getting knock, then gets a BT, Meth, Tune, and BOOM...not because of the new mods, but because the motor was hurt previously.

Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it.

I'll bet a Fresh motor with meth, BT, Supporting mods and tune could run 375 hp all day long...as long as there wasn't any prior knock damage.

[08_ms3_gt]

Originally Posted by bf360 are you guys talking about ron?

no, i think they're referring to laloosh...?

didn't blow, but the new owner of the car may have by now...

[badams118]

laloosh ran meth.

I have never heard of anyone running a gt35 wout meth for any meaningful amount of time. Best case was palerider who had a gt30 for ~4 months before he popped.

[bova]

Originally Posted by badams118 laloosh ran meth. I have never heard of anyone running a gt35 wout meth for any meaningful amount of time. Best case was palerider who had a gt30 for ~4 months before he popped.

ron(whoosh) ran the gt35 for quite sometime without meth, never popped.

[badams118]

I thought he had meth. How many miles did he get before selling?

[mouse0330]

I'm sorry guys but to say that the solution for blown engine is running meth is not really a solution, like some of you said it other thread that its only a band-aid. I just picture that our engines have a disease like cancer, slowing spreading, some will survive some won't, even with chemo (which is meth) won't completely cure the cancer lol..

I refuse to run meth and lets see if my engine is gonna blow lol until then I continue to drive it like it suppose to be driven.
by the way I use GAMESHARK on my ecu to give me unlimited life.

[cortytx8]

How many engines popped with upgraded FPs?