Changed oil...look what i found attched to drain plug...
 

So changing the oil today and i found this attached to my drain plug.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...0/IMG_0009.jpg
Looks like its an oil squirter that broke off. Not really sure how it happened but it looks as if there is an imperfection in the cast near where it bolts to the block. No contact marks where the piston is or anything.

Wow...I'd take it up to Mazda

DEFINITELY take that in to mazda! i dunno wtf that is exactly, but it sure as hell shouldn't be sitting loose in your oil pan!

Mazda wont do anything its a built motor. Its a piece of an oil squirter. Soon as my parts guy gets back from lunch i am going to order a new one. I dont really think taking one from my old block is the smartest idea.

hmmm.....

Sucks.

ahhh...didn't realize it was built. ya, definitely get this resolved.

I intend to...not much of concern since the car goes about 7 miles a day anyway and i have not driven it hard in a while. But glad i noticed it. Just get to add it to the list of things to do when it tear it down next week.

Holy shit meng...

What happened to the motor that you used the squirter off of?

Is that a tapeworm?

I didnt used the squirt off of anything. That is one of the original squirters that came with that block. I was just saying i dont wanna use one from the block that i broke a rod in and vented the block.

damn it. that doesn't make me feel any better. I was hoping it came off a block with a broken rod, so i can rest easy about re-using mine.

Only other thing to see i guess, is if the other half is still bolted into the block. If not then maybe it was an assembly mistake. If so, then the squirter was damned from the get go.

Ya thats what i am thinking. I know that had to be removed to bore and such. Where its broken looks about where it bolts to the block so its either a casting flaw or it was dropped or something when it was disassembled/assembled. I will let you know what i find.

I'll snap some pics of my squirters tonight and post them up for comparison.

mine came out looking flawless, and i didnt have any issues reusing them.

Are you SURE it wasnt hit? I think the only way it could fall out and not get hit is if the engine wasnt running, there is probably less than a 1 in a billion chance that it could fall out with the engine running and nothing hit it.

Yes I am 95% positive it was not hit. There are no contact marks on top side of it that would be indicative of the piston hitting it. Ifthat were the case either I would have brokenor bent a rod or all 4 would be broken off. Where it looks like it was hit is rift St the point where t attached to the bolt portion and that part is covered by the block overlap. So, conclusion isthat it wa wither dropped or damaged during onstallation. Once I pull the pan I will know for sure.

Here's some better pictures so everyone knows what it actually looks like complete:

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...quirtsmall.jpg

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...uirtsmall2.jpg

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...uirtsmall3.jpg


Curious to see the outcome of all this.

Your problem is that your engine has round worms. You should take it to the vet, not the dealership.

Get that resolved as it will affect oil pressure in the engine. Do you have an oil pressure gauge? Is it still within spec?

You can see the squirters if you pull off the pan.

Hmmm, IMO it wouldn't affect oil pressure if the bolt and base banjo fitting are still in place. It would definitely affect the piston temp of the one missing the squirter though.... Looks like a simple case of a poor braze/weld on the squirter itself. A pan pull and replace is pretty simple so shouldn't be a problem to fix.....

It is odd though.....

Our oil squirters have a spring loaded ball valve that only opens with enough oil pressure, I dont know how much it takes but they feel fairly stout to me so it could be fairly high pressure.

That was my first thought.

But wow. That is crazy!

My builders told me they had to bend either one or all of the squirters just a little bit. I can't remember if they did it becuase pauter said to or because they tested the clearance and it contacted. I bet one of the rods hit it.

You don't read very well do you?

Re: Changed oil...look what i found attched to drain plug...
 

Are you kidding? I read it. I don't think whoever installed your oil squirters dropped it and damaged it to the point where it would just "fall" off. Did you read what I wrote? My builders had to bend an oil squirter so it wouldn't get hit. Did your builders do the same???

Well lets see here, you are using pauter rods? I am not using them. If it were contacted by the rod or pistons there would be a contact mark. Also it would have shown up after the first initial oil change or one of the subsequent changes after break in. The car has since seen about 8k miles and 4-5 oil changes and the pan has also been off in since then. So, there goes that theory. Anything else?

well I hope my squirters don't decide to fall off

my word that would be a scary experiance to see that and not expect it. you got lucky with it not hitting anything for sure.

"squirter"

...lolol

what an ass. why do you post if you degrade the people who are trying to help you? the proper response would have been "no thats not it but thanks anyways!" instead of being a prick. Next time it won't be an oil squirter it'll be epic beard man punching your face in for being a toolbox. You are the problem with this forum. I hope your block pops jerk-off.

Like he said if he would have read the posts prior he would have seen that there was no contact mark...

Re: Changed oil...look what i found attched to drain plug...
 

Lol. I wish there was a thanks button in tapatalk. I just don't know how something inside the block would fall off without something else hitting it. But if he's satisfied with that conclusion so be it. I'd be worried about the others in there too though

i'm glad that you think that means its okay to act like an ass to someone, thats trying to help, regardless of circumstance. You're probably the guy who beats his kids for asking the same question over and over. But it is kinda cute that you stick up for your boyfriend.

yah jared was a little harsh but why would i bitch about that when you are acting just the same...MSF must be on its period today.

Re: Changed oil...look what i found attched to drain plug...
 

So you agree that a material defect is a better conclusion to it falling off rather than something hitting it? How many times has this happened to someones motor? This is the first I've seen. It sounds like there was a mistake made in the build process and he found the piece after it finally broke off. Take some pics of where the oil squirter attaches. Dj's pics look like they aren't just gonna "fall" off. I bet the OP pics will look like it was bent. But like I said if he's happy with things just coming apart randomly in the motor that's cool with me.

The difference is that im not upset about anything and i didn't unnecessarily bite someone's head off. You said so yourself just not in so many words.

alright money bags

Ya you're right i was an ass, but when i have explain that there are no contact marks to on the piece that would be indicative of it snapping off due to contact i would agree. However in there areas where it would have been contacted to cause such a problem there are not visible signs of damage.

The only thing in conclude at this point is this:
1. If it were due to rod/piston contact it would have shown before now and would have been in the pan when i pulled the pan before.
2. Rods and pistons do not move out of their set path unless there is a problem.
3. After examining the piece of the squirter i have it looks to be a poor braising joint.

I apologize for being so harsh, sometimes i just come off that way. I deal with a lot of stupid people at my job so at times it can spill over into everything else. Sorry for being a dick, i understand you were trying to be helpful.

I am going to pull the pan tomorrow morning after i get home from work and inspect and change the squirter. I will post my findings and we can further deliberate on this subject.

So what did you end up finding?