COBB STS impressions

[ms3077]

I'm sure the Cobb STS is good and all but I think I'm sticking with my TWM

[Renzokuken]

Just wanna thank the guys at COBB for a quick soluyion yo my problem. sorry i havent been on today to make note of it, i been installing my FMIC since i got off work. i hope the bushing fixes my 1st and 2nd gear issue. I dont know if most of you were reading just the cons but from reading over the thread i would like to remind anyone in the market for a STS that there are alot of good things about the shifter as well. the throws are really short and clean, no slopiness to them at all, though i still think COBB should take another look at the loose feeling of the top anodized piece.

[xcoldricex]

so is the loose feeling ALL shifters or just a problem with yours? can anyone else comment?

[Bravnik]

Mine does not feel loose

[bacarl]

Renzokuken & Bravnik, either of you guys using metal/solid shifter bushings?

[Bravnik]

Yes I have the TWM shifter bushings as well. The reason I could not find 1st and 2nd with the lowest throw is probably because I have my counter weight off on my shift linkage.

This morning on my way in the shifts were very nice. I still get that spring popping from time to time so I'm going to look at exactly what is causing that this weekend. It seemed that the more I shifted the less it did it so there might be a break-in period.

Overall I'm very happy as the shifts are much shorter and more precise for me. I don't feel like I'm reaching across the room to hit 5th anymore. My previous car was an S2000 and one of the best things about that car was the shifting (I also have an RX8 which is nice too). The MS3 shift is a lot closer now and feels close to what the S2000 was, not quite but a WHOLE lot closer.

Is the Cobb better than the TWM? I have no clue as I never had the TWM. But I'm happy. I just wished there was a way to have the nice Blue show without removing the boot completely. The COBB in Blue looks so nice.

[CWPSpeed]

I am getting the same popping sound from the spring. I found that when I shift back to neutral from 5th or 6th the bottom part of the spring catches on the edge of the groove. When I shift towards 1st/2nd/Reverse it slides off of the edge and into the groove, which makes the popping sound. I haven't determined if this is a problem w/ the shifter or a bent spring. Does this sound similar to what you're experiencing?

[Haltech]

When you guys installed the spring assembly back in the car with the new STS, is the bottom of the spring riding on the lower groove and the top of the groove riding on the top portion of the groove? If these two pieces of the spring aren't riding solid in the grooves at the lowest and highest portion, it will cause it to pop. You greased it up well, correct?

[Bravnik]

Yah my issue was the top part of the spring not staying in the grove. It would pop out and ride on the lip then when I moved the shifter to the right it would pop in. I had to bend the one part just a bit and now all is cool.

[Renzokuken]

I have the twm bushing. Shane at cobb told me their engineers said the shifter does have a little loosened to the top portion. Hopefully they weren't BSing me to avoid sending me a new unit. I'd be happy to have my missing piece, but if nobody else has the loose feeling issue I'm gonna be very dissapointed.

[Haltech]

The loose feeling is the smaller shaft, in which cobb should have sent you a revised shaft. Did you tell them that you have the smaller shaft?

With the proper shaft, the shifter is completely solid.

[aaronc7]

baha you have small shaft

[Renzokuken]

Originally Posted by aaronc7 baha you have small shaft

Is this a joke cause Im asian? Cause Im offended.

[4thStroke]

I removed the shifter assembly from the car when I did mine. I know what you guys are talking about with the spring popping out of the groove. I noticed it before I put it back in the car. I had to bend the spring a little to get it stay in there.

Not cool, IMO.

The rotationas slop from the "Cobb" engraved portion... not a fan of that, either. Its a very small amount, but shouldnt be there at all.

[Renzokuken]

So I got the missing bushing and I installed it today, WOW ! 1st and 2nd gear are really short ! Still a little hard to catch 2nd still on the lowest setting. That jiggle is still there, but its alot less noticable now. I only really have 1 complaint now about the shifter. when I downshift from 5th or 6th gear, what the hell is that popping noise??!?!?! The spring???

[Haltech]

Take a pic of your spring assembly... i get no popping, no slop. nadda.. Did you properly install that white bushing back in on the left side of the shifter?

[Colonel Speed]

Its juts that spring, its a paint in the ass. Mine pops when I go from reverse to neutral, but it dosent bother me enought to mess with it. And the small rotation of the billet Cobb engraved piece is normal, although annoying.

[Haltech]

You guys greased the spring and bushing?

[Colonel Speed]

Originally Posted by Haltech You guys greased the spring and bushing?

Yea, but grease isnt going to stop the spring from poping out of the groove. The COBB groove is to shallow.

[Laloosh]

looks like its time for another revision

[Haltech]

Originally Posted by Colonel Speed Yea, but grease isnt going to stop the spring from poping out of the groove. The COBB groove is to shallow.

Shallow? Take a picture. Its the same groove that i have, so why would yours pop and mine doesnt, unless you hacked the hell out of it when you disassembled the stocker.

[MidwestSpeed3]

I am having this same "popping" issue myself. I can reproduce mine at will just by pushing the shifter all the way to the left in neutral and letting go. More than likely, it was an install issue on my part. Thats what I get for trying to do the install by myself in the car. Hal, you weren't kidding about needing an extra hand for this part. I am going to take the whole assembly out here shortly and mess around with it.

[Colonel Speed]

Originally Posted by Haltech Shallow? Take a picture. Its the same groove that i have, so why would yours pop and mine doesnt, unless you hacked the hell out of it when you disassembled the stocker.

Did you bend the spring?

[Haltech]

Originally Posted by Colonel Speed Did you bend the spring?

You dont need to bend the spring. When you remove the stocket, you pull up on the top part of the spring and yank the shifter up... When you install it back, thats where you need the second pair of hands so you can get it lined up with the bottom spring piece, insert it into the bottom part of the groove, than lift up on the upper part of the spring to ride it home on the top portion of the groove. After you complete this, you insert the white bushing on the left portion of the shifter and give it a good whack with a mallet. Done.

[Meder]

Well, ive had mine for a day now and the top sections are indeed loose, but its not noticable with the sts installed. I get no popping sounds or anything like what you guys are saying.



Shifts are short and precise, everything seems to be on point. Some what notchy on the shortest settings and a bit more force needed but thats to be expected. The shifter really took my car to a new level as far as feel goes. I am not yet confident shifting too fast on the new sts, but as of now everything is great.

Counter weight on and off made little diffrence to me, but I did not try the counter weight off on the shortest setting. The overall feel is about the same and i doubt the new cobb weight is going to make a diffrence as far as shift feel unless you go past the 2 shortest shift throw reduction settings.

[Demi]

Originally Posted by Laloosh yea i read the posts where its missing a piece...whats your point, its still another cobb fuck up

Settling in nicely for your now flame fave Loo? Lol. "Ill be on the veranda since your already on the cross"

Come on dude, be happy that people are making stuff for our car. We dont need less competition for our hard earned dollar, or a CPE-E standback will be $2000. Like who you like but fairweather fanboydom is unbecoming and beneath you. So the AP isnt what we hoped. They never said it was gonna be a planet eater. People blew it up in their minds as the greatest thing since sliced bread, and when it came out was just a good product not a great one people lost their minds. Shifter issues suck, but this shit happens. I hardly see this as a pattern. One more fuck up then yes, thats a pattern. But before we strip down to loincloths and start burning effigies, lets get a fucking grib and try to retain some objectivity.

[Colonel Speed]

^+1

[CWPSpeed]

Originally Posted by Haltech You dont need to bend the spring. When you remove the stocket, you pull up on the top part of the spring and yank the shifter up... When you install it back, thats where you need the second pair of hands so you can get it lined up with the bottom spring piece, insert it into the bottom part of the groove, than lift up on the upper part of the spring to ride it home on the top portion of the groove. After you complete this, you insert the white bushing on the left portion of the shifter and give it a good whack with a mallet. Done.

That's how I installed mine and I greased the hell out of it. I received my shifter 3 days after release and had it installed that weekend. I still get that popping sound every time I shift back to neutral from 5th and 6th. I'm really apprehensive about bending the spring in case that worsens the situation.

[Laloosh]

Im really a homo

[Demi]

What happened with the intake?

[saranya]

Originally Posted by Demi What happened with the intake?

what? you mean other than the almost 2 month wait and going...

[xcoldricex]

there were several batches crooked air flow straighteners.. i don't think it ever got corrected either.

[Haltech]

they got it corrected, where were you lead to believe Cobb didn't bother to "correct" it? They had to change to a different manf'd and they will be shipping sooner than PTP releases stuff.

[xcoldricex]

i was just under the impression that it still isn't corrected. did the new straighteners come out already?

[Haltech]

Originally Posted by xcoldricex i was just under the impression that it still isn't corrected. did the new straighteners come out already?

They finished the QA testing back and fourth with samples and they are in full production... shouldnt be long now before they start rolling into Cobb for packaging.

[builthatch]

Originally Posted by Laloosh its already 3 strikes, intake/shifter/ap...they only make 5 parts

IIRC, didn't you have some extreme ongoing beef with another manufacturer previously as well over the parts they issued? gots ta chill y0!

intake is fine. yes there was a recent production issue with the housing, and yes the demand WAY outpaces supply, but there are a shitload of people out there who use it just fine, with much success. there will be bumps in the road, it's not a commodity, or a bent aluminum tube with a filter plopped on the end...

the AP...it's potential will develop over time; it was overly hyped by alot of people with little tuning experience, so it seemed like a huge disappointment when it was released, but noone forced anyone's hand to buy it....just because they made strides and released it doesn't mean it'll be at full potential right from the get-go. we aren't driving around WRX's here...these are complex and pretty high strung.

i didn't buy it because i'm waiting until Cobb gives hard evidence that they have significant gains available and/or until i can bring the car to my tuner and have it tuned.

The shifter, who knows...but still-

i think you should maybe not be so harsh on manufacturers that are paying attention to this application. if you don't like it, don't buy it, but man, you can't totally trash a manufacturer each time they release something that has an initial issue. be thankful someone out there is dedicating time to making these parts, and developing things for our application. noone is forcing you to buy their initial release, man. you know as well as i that it's an uphill battle having one of these cars.

[Bravnik]

The deal with the spring is simple. On the removal of the old shifter the top spring is getting bent a little to the right. So when you put in the new shifter the top part sits nicely in the grove until you pull the shifter to the left for 1st, 2nd and Reverse. When you do the part that has the groove in it pushes down the bottom spring and the upper spring comes out of the groove then goes right a bit (in my case). When the grove part comes back up the spring settles on the lip of the grove and not in the grove. When you go to 3rd or into the 3rd / 4th channel the spring pops back into the groove.

I was having a hard time getting mine to stay in the groove so I bent the spring just enough to where it didn't go to the right anymore....problem fixed.

[Laloosh]

im sorry, i like paying for finished products, not products that 'will do' and if they bitch 'will get revised' FOR FREE!!! omg who woulda thought

[MidwestSpeed3]

Originally Posted by Laloosh im sorry, i like paying for finished products, not products that 'will do' and if they bitch 'will get revised' FOR FREE!!! omg who woulda thought

Then don't buy them? I don't understand your issue. You haven't bought them, so you haven't had any problems. Yet you bitch more than anyone that actually owns it and has problems.

[Renzokuken]

So Im like driving around today and man... pustting the shifter on the shortest setting really requires you to force the damn thing. I may just go halfway on it, may that will solve my downshifting to 2nd gear issue.