Coolant type help please
 

good day everyone, I've searched to death but couldn't find an definitive answer, I have a 07 speed 3 since brand new, and now I'm thinking about changing the factory filled coolant, the question is what type of coolant was used at the factory line??? I've checked the cap and the reservoir and no where does it indicate "FL22" anywhere.... i've read the owner's manual, the mazda shop manual, also called the dealer... even pulled up Mazda service bulletin 01-033/07( which doesn't apply to Canada).....nobody could give me an answer. Finally I called Mazda Canada this morning and the rep spoke to a "Mazda Engineer", and according to the engineer, he has confirmed that during 06-07 there were both type coolant used, however if there were no sticker indicating the use of "FL22" or the cap doesn't indicate"FL 22", than back in Japan it was factory filled with regular coolant.....I thought I will share this for folks in Canada, also if anyone could please confirm if the "Mazda Engineer" did not BS me....

is it green or DARK AS HELL GREEN? the latter = fl22.
Also I would run FL22 either way or the FORD special coolant same shit.

It is dark green, however I'm not sure if it's because the coolant has been in the system for 5 years caused dark green.....I went out and got 2 Gallons of Peak concentrated coolant and 2 gallons of distalled water to mix to a 55/45 for the Canadian weather and flush the system using distalled water at the same time......still in my head as to what exactly were used during the factory process since there's no sticker and no indication on the cap....this drives me crazy

Prestone all makes will work. Or just swap it to standard green.

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...ctures-100877/

Zerex Asian Vehicle Coolant, 50/50 mix, about $13 a gallon, need 2 plus some distilled water for a full flush.

just go to the Mazda dealership and ask for their coolant. Thats what I did and it works.

It does work, but they are charging triple for the same as Zerex.

get FL22.. it is about 18 for a gallon. then do a FLUSH on the coolant lines and all which will require 2 gallons and your set

i only had to use 1gallon when i did mine because i know it had fl22 in it previously and i didn't actually flush it completely

edit: might be a tad more than 18 because i got a small discount from a friend who works there

I got it done today, and I used Peak extended life concentrate, which it's yellow color and I mixed it to 50/50 with distalled water....flushed my system with about 1.5 Gallon of distalled water and let drain until i see no more green....fill the system and followed the shop manual bleed the system...I can still see some green as I didn't get all the coolant out from hoses....does anyone here use Peak extended life??? on the back label it stated contain Ethylene glycol, diethylene glycol...nothing else???

@TiGraySpeed6; You seem to be the coolant expert; I saw your "Fluid Notes" thread and figured I would revive this thread to ask if this actually is compatible?

Peak Long Life 50/50 Prediluted Antifreeze and Coolant (1 Gallon)

It specifically mentioned FL22 when I searched, but I don't see it anywhere in the description or specifications.

OK, kinda picking at nits here, along the lines of using GL4 or GL5 in the trans with it's brass synchros. (GL4, by the way...)

Peak is proud of not containing phosphates.

However phosphates are one of the key ingredients in the FL22 or Motorcraft Speciality Green or, my favorite, Zerex Asian Vehicle Coolant, all of which are P-OAT2 coolants, which is Phosphated Organic Acid Technology, second generation.

So, I run Zerex Asian.
I don't recommend topping off the factory fill- drain it and start fresh
most important thing- if you flush it every 2-3 years, you can use almost anything aluminum safe.

most any issues that come up are from mixing incompatible fluids (drain & flush damnit!), or just doing nothing.

Well it's about $28/gallon at the Ford dealership here... WTF

This topic is too fucking confusing and too many people feel one way or the other.

I just bought the Mazda fluid. Bit the bullet. Done.

Well it's $26/gallon at Mazda pre-mixed, so fuck that. I'll just get 1 gallon of this Ford shit and some water.

lolz....

Zerex Asian Vehicle Coolant.

Same P-OAT2 additive blend as FL22 or it's motorcraft twin, and half the price.

Yeah, it was half the price, but the price has gone up....

It is fl 22 your not looking hard enough.

Not sure who you're referring to; I found it at the Ford dealer as well as the Mazda dealer.

Zerex AVC is $14 here-

Antifreeze/Coolant Valvoline 675130 - Engine Coolant / Anti-Freeze | O'Reilly Auto Parts

For anyone looking, Motorcraft Specialty Green Engine Coolant VC-10-A2 is the same thing as Mazda's FL22 coolant. Motorcraft Specialty Green VC-10-A1 is the premixed stuff.

Sorry to bring this old thread up but I'm tired of driving around. Where can I get the Zerex AVC or Motorcraft locally? I tried Pep boys and Bennett. Advance and autozone are a bit of a drive.

I don't want to pay ford or Mazda for the crazy prices.

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I had to order it from O'Reilly's. I don't think any stores carry it in stock.

I don't think there is an O'Reilly or even Jegs by me :(

Bennett has the FL22 OEM but its still $23/gallon.

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Just a helpful update, in case anyone else runs into the same thing as I did.

NAPA does stock the Zerex Asian Vehicle coolant for $13.99 (in South Florida). I picked mine up from there. So if you don't find anything around you, and can't wait to order online, if you have a local NAPA chain, check with them.

Bring this back from the dead for anyone in Canada looking, Canadian Tire has Motormaster antifreeze "For Asian Vehicles". It doesn't specifically mention FL22 but it is a phosphate based, silicate free formula so sounds to be the same as the Zerex stuff. $16/gallon.

"Asian vehicles"

FWIW.... I do flushes and fills every year at 75c/25w without a hitch with normal green prestone or peak.... nothing to report other than a thermostat change at 117-118k.... At 124K now

WTF......broke the seal on my Zerex Asian coolant, started to pour it in; this shit isn't green!

I know I'm late to answer this, but the motorcraft stuff is at ford. It was under $30 for a gallon of concentrate (so 2 gallons when mixed).

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Nope, ZAV is orange (red, whatever....)

Is the same additive mix as FL22, and should be fine to mix, but if you've got good coolant in there already and want to just top up as part of the burping process you've been fighting, just add distilled water.

FL22, ZAV or the Motorcraft equivalent can all easily go to a 30/70 coolant/water ratio and still have excellent protective abilities - more than enough head room to top off with good water.

Yeah I just didn't want to go to Ford or Mazda. $60 for 2 gallons, or Zerex from Napa. $25 for 2 gallons.




This, it's an orange/red hue that looks pinkish when the light hits it at an angle lol. Its fine, I've been running it in my car for quite a bit now, car hasn't overheated or gotten hotter than normal operating temps, and I push my car every day ;)

Well.until I started hearing the VVT/Timing chain noise. Saving to get the parts and swap lol

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Its 30 for a gallon of the ford stuff. So even with a gallon of distilled water its ~$32 for two gallons. Just clarifying.

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Oh OK, I looked st it wrong, lol.

I'd still rather pay $12.99 for Zerex from NAPA. But at least I know Ford has it if I need it ASAP and NAPA has nothing.

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put zerex, cheap and works

Isn't zerex 50/50 already and ford/mazda concentrate?

I didn't read the thread, but just FYI the Mazda FL-22 coolant you buy from the dealership is already mixed.

Yes, it is, but the stuff I bought at Ford was concentrate.

If you buy it from mazda it's $30 and premixed at 50/50, if you buy it at Ford it's $30 and concentrated, so really half the price. I told the parts folks about this at my local mazda dealer but they didn't seem to care

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Re: Coolant type help please
 

Ford does sell the premixed stuff, I posted the P/Ns earlier in this thread. No idea on the cost though. The concentrate from ford was the best deal I could find locally. The guys at the local parts stores look at you like you're crazy when you ask for asian coolant lol

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I asked NAPA for Zerex, they knew what it was. Autozone had nothing. Advance has some Zerex but not the Asian Vehicle one.

PepBoys supposedly has it but was out of stock when I looked.

I don't live near a Jegs or RockAuto and I don't think Bennett Auto had it either.

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Yea I found it on at least one of their websites but when I went they had never heard of it. I went to oreillys, autozone, and advance with the same results. Keep in mind the parts guys around here are all good old boys. Ford was closer than napa so I never did check there.

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NAPA is around the corner for me. Was $12.99 (13.99?) Each when I bought it. If they have to order it comes within a day. Saves me $15 bucks over Ford/Mazda. Or I get 2 for the cost of 1 Motor craft.

I did a full drain and flush, used 2 gallons.

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Okay well after driving the car around and breaking it in the cel light came on bad 02 sensor. I must have touched it accidentally. But my question is now the car is getting bad mpg like 20-22mpg it used to get 28 easy. What could cause this?? Thanks guys

AN 02 sensor could do that.

Ohh thank you damn didn't wanna have to replace that thing!!!

If you guys need the Motorcraft Specialty Green (FL-22) and live in Georgia go to Parts Authority. They have a few locations throughout the state.

I had the same issue. couldn't seem to find the right coolant for my speed 3. the cap says "FL22" though.. I couldn't find any FL22 anywhere and ended up using regular green coolant, and haven't had any problems.