CP-E intake vs. the CP-E Nano
 

I purchased my car with the fenderwell/bumper long version of the CP-E intake. I was wondering if its really in my best interest to keep or if its worth switching over to the SRI?

It also came with the turbo smart Dual port BOV, am I better off going back to some sort of an aftermarket recirc. valve such as Cobb?

I really don't want to take the bumper off.

My full goal with my car will be to make 300 to the wheels with the following set up:

Cobb stage 2 93 tune of some sort
CP-E CAI
CP-E TMIC
Cobb TIH
Corksport Boost Tubes
new fuel pump internals
CP-E downpipe
Turbosmart BOV

Didnt do any searching, did you?

I'll throw one bone for being VIP.
Leave intake.
The tubosmart is hybrid, it can recirc. I guess it is not connected? Pics? If not connected, then just get the recirc fitting and attach it and be done.

We have intake and BOV megathreads if your dd searching.

Yes, the BOV is hooked up for both recirc and atomsphere. I will do some searching. I just don't like the backfiring when I shift.

Oh, then all you need is the plug for full recirc. Street Unit might be able to help that out. @StreetUnitMark is on here, PM him.

^ Excellent advice kind sir, mod, Raider.

OP, with your current mods, all you really need is a good downpipe/racepipe combo or a long downpipe catted or catless, depending on where you live to reach your goal, IMHO. And you can get there with HT and those mods.

You do, however, need to upgrade your fuel pump internals to stay safe and you need to have some way to monitor your shit.

I hate my CP-e CAI. When it rains I just don't even bother driving my damn car....

Why? It is very difficult to hydrolock a CAI equipped turbocharged car. You just about have to set out with determination to intentionally do it -- like running WOT through at least a foot of standing water. Or you have to do something extremely stupid.

Even then, you are far more likely to just wet the filter enough to cut off air flow to the MAF sensor and stall the engine from lack of oxygen. If you are determined or stupid enough, you would have to suck the water up through the long pipe, past the MAF sensor, which should detect the absence of air and shut things down. Then it has to go through the TIP, through the compressor. Water does not compress and may stall the turbo. If it gets through then it has to traverse the length of the intercooler, through the intake manifold and finally get in past an intake valve. Quite a tortuous path.

I live in a high rainfall, high flooding area (Mississippi Gulf Coast at 0 feet altitude). I'm 61 years old. I've run CAI's on many different vehicles over the years and have never hydrolocked.

The closest I've ever come to it was not with a CAI but with a pancake K&N filter on top of the carburetor of a lifted, highly modded CJ-5 Jeep. I tried to drive down a flooded woods road while deer hunting. The filter was the highest point under the hood, at least four feet above the ground! But I could not see where the edges of the road were and I got too far over to one side and the left front and rear wheels went into a deep ditch. The Jeep laid over on the driver's side. The water in the ditch was about 5 feet high. The filter went under water. So did the distributor. The engine sputtered and stopped. I had to crawl out the passenger side door, which was now the "top" of the vehicle.

I ended up crawling back in and used the winch to pull the Jeep back up on the road (electrical system was still active), opened the hood, removed the filter, opened the distributor cap, drained the water out, shot the cap and distributor full of WD-40, popped the cap back on, returned to the cab, started the engine and drove away. The filter was waterlogged, but the water never got past it.

We need to stop this paranoia of hydrolock and just don't do anything stupid (like I did, even in a lifted Jeep) and enjoy the power of a good intake system.

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jesus christ thats a fucking novel

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x..._u17082651.jpg

Lol ^^

I'd have to agree with the paranoia... I've been running mine for 4 years now with no issues and I get shitty weather here in calgary... Just be a bit smart and don't drive the drivers side slowly through any deep standing water.

The thing that does piss me off about the cai is its awkward to do boost leasing tests and it gets in the way of other installs... Definitely Sri is less headaches... I can't help thinking that cai performs better tho... If only a bit

Not trying to win the Pulitzer prize, lol. Far from it. It's just that one line sound bites don't really constitute anything more than a biased personal opinion. Prior experience does matter.

And, with respect, we all ought to do more reading and stop living by sound bites. If I or anyone else can't explain what his position is in a logical and accurate way, and won't take the time to do so, he's probably only blowing BS smoke.

That was my point regarding the paranoia about hydrolock on our engine. It can happen but you have to be either intentionally trying to blow your engine or ignorantly doing something very stupid.

We don't have to read long posts. But this ain't Twitter or texting and when longer posts happen, there just might be something useful in them. Hopefully . . .

so what's better? cai or sri? good times.

just bustin your balls dude, but im sure you know that. it was a good post

This forum has by far the funniest sigs and avatars evr. Yalls shit cracks me the fuck up. ^

It's not hyrdolock, it's water getting on the MAF. Water will sit in the lowest bend of the pipe, but anytime you try to build boost, the engine sucks in JUST enough water to hit the MAF, and it errors out somehow and it feels like you just hit a wall. Sometimes enough water sits on the MAF that it won't even idle. I have to carry an allen wrench and MAF cleaner with me at all times just in case this happens. And yes, I have the hydroshield installed. I love CAI's but I'll never buy another. I got mine used for $85 off the forum, so I couldn't pass the deal up!

Fucking Christ. Look...I have the 2nd intake CPe ever made, ever, on my car. I have nearly 70,000 miles through Florida rain and shit, no problems.

This thread sucks.

^ This.

I ran mine without any issue for 60k miles.

I ran a similar one for 160k miles on my previous car.

Unless you drive your car through a river, CAI's are fine (even in torrential downpours).

Man, I've run CAI's on a lot of different vehicles before this one and now have 61,000 miles on my MS3. The CAI went on by the time of the first oil change. I have NEVER experienced this "wet MAF, water accumulating in the tube" phenemenon on any of my vehicles, EVER.

Strange. I wonder if that poster has some sort of loose tube between the filter and the MAF housing, or is he spraying water under the hood, washing the engine or seeking out deep water just to keep getting his filter wet.

Not doubting his issue, but there's got to be some other explanation.

I'm not getting into the CAI v. SRI endless debate on which is better. 95% of the time there is no difference in performance. I'm just saying hydrolock or "wet MAF" is not a part of my enthusiast driving world. FYI: I'm 61 years old and I've been modding and racing cars since I was 18, and I've lived on the Mississippi Gulf Coast with our high rainfall and high water issues all my life.

Funny... Just this morning I popped a CEL while driving in heavy rain with a CP-E Nano. Let's not forget that 2010+ models have a hood scoop that loves to throw water spray all over the engine bay and that the air filter LOVES to soak that shit up.

Get the air filter condom. Repels (most) of the water.

Have a CP-E CAI 45,000 miles, no problems.

Air filter condom? I don't think I can get those at the local 7 11. Can you provide a link to a seller?

SURE Motorsports Element Shield™

Also known as a pre filter. I got it when I bought my intake. Helps keep the big crap out too.

This one is from CP-E
CPE Water Resistant Pre-Filter #P30016 - Revolution Performance Motorsports!

I am sure one of the vendors on here can give you a good deal. Hit one of them up.

^Just picked up a pre-filter myself today (ordered) for my 2nd gen, going with the SURE product (got a little discount after talking to them via email). Injen also makes them, but those are apparently backordered/out of stock with Injen until some time next week.