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kmac 01-27-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by superskaterxes (Post 1229328)
whats with people cutting the stock flange off and welding on runners and a plenum? i hope u dont think anyone would ever buy a hack job like that......

U have no idea what u r talking about. A straight runner off a straight cut flange will not give u the transition u need for turbulence and flow . If u don't meet the heads runner angle with intake runner u will pass a flow bench , but once It's on the head It's a diff situation. No one makes a flange to maintain runner angle and port transition . Until then for the best flow you're stuck with this solution . If I had a cnc I would make one , but I don't so I can't and It's not worth it for me to invest in it. With port work that will out flow a straight flange. People spend a lot of time designing manifolds to blow air on top of the valve for flow and turbulence. People also spend a lot of time raising the roof on cyl head so the runner is more angled so It's more on top of the valve, also for flow.

Boosted Beluga 01-27-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitr0EngiE (Post 1230575)
I found some OEM replacements from EMPI and talked to manager on the phone and got all the specs. ill update OP

Dont do it. I had the passenger side axle from them and the shaft snapped in half at the drag strip on street tires. I have pics of you want to see.

Nitr0EngiE 01-27-2012 12:57 PM

they said 10-20 bucks he was supposed to call me back and confirm transaction is complete let me check the bank and see if ther is a charge

Skates I woulda paid 3-400 per axle prolly not 5 tho.

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Originally Posted by Boosten Ya(josh) (Post 1230777)
Dont do it. I had the passenger side axle from them and the shaft snapped in half at the drag strip on street tires. I have pics of you want to see.

yah if u got pics id like to see im not doubting you but it would be good to see

Boosted Beluga 01-27-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitr0EngiE (Post 1230820)
they said 10-20 bucks he was supposed to call me back and confirm transaction is complete let me check the bank and see if ther is a charge

Skates I woulda paid 3-400 per axle prolly not 5 tho.



yah if u got pics id like to see im not doubting you but it would be good to see

Here you go....

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSC00387-1.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/a...f/DSC00390.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSC00388-1.jpg

qtrmile beast 01-27-2012 01:15 PM

[quote=Boosten Ya(josh);1230841]Here you go....
DAAAAAMMMM :eek2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitr0EngiE (Post 1230820)
they said 10-20 bucks he was supposed to call me back and confirm transaction is complete let me check the bank and see if ther is a charge

Skates I woulda paid 3-400 per axle prolly not 5 tho.

That is what i paid for mine from DSS..$350

Boosted Beluga 01-27-2012 01:17 PM

Yeah. If we can't get stronger axles then go with oem.

Nitr0EngiE 01-27-2012 01:26 PM

fuck i already paid lol, you where at the track you said ?

Boosted Beluga 01-27-2012 01:50 PM

Yes my local drag strip. I was only on 15psi. It was the 3rd pass when It happened

Nitr0EngiE 01-27-2012 02:12 PM

did you wheel hop what so ever on any of the passes or any times at track before this

how were you launching, pretty hard ?

Boosted Beluga 01-27-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitr0EngiE (Post 1230981)
did you wheel hop what so ever on any of the passes or any times at track before this

how were you launching, pretty hard ?

No wheel hop. It was the 2nd time I've been to the track. 1st time I was completely stock. I had launch control set at 2800 and I was dumping the clutch. I know I'm not good at launching thats why I'm going to start road racing lol

MSMS3 01-27-2012 04:02 PM

Here's another choice - Raxles:

http://www.raxles.com/

Not a fanboi for anyone and I've not used them for my Speed 3. But I have used them on several other applications for replacement of stock FWD shafts. Prices are extremely reasonable. Turn around is prompt and they even supply loaner special sockets.

And they are seriously into making custom racing axles and beefed up CV joints for extreme power applications.

guitarzan134 01-31-2012 01:40 PM

When I called Raxles to ask about an axle for my speed 3, they told me they didn't make axles for our platform yet. He asked if I knew the guy who had just called asking about the same thing. It looks like they're seeing the interest, but they haven't jumped yet.

Nitr0EngiE 02-01-2012 05:09 PM

SFWD 1934 says he gave axles to DSS to template replacements So those might be available eventually

superskaterxes 02-01-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmac (Post 1230776)
U have no idea what u r talking about. A straight runner off a straight cut flange will not give u the transition u need for turbulence and flow . If u don't meet the heads runner angle with intake runner u will pass a flow bench , but once It's on the head It's a diff situation. No one makes a flange to maintain runner angle and port transition . Until then for the best flow you're stuck with this solution . If I had a cnc I would make one , but I don't so I can't and It's not worth it for me to invest in it. With port work that will out flow a straight flange. People spend a lot of time designing manifolds to blow air on top of the valve for flow and turbulence. People also spend a lot of time raising the roof on cyl head so the runner is more angled so It's more on top of the valve, also for flow.

the only problem with your statement is that in the pict posted earlier the runners are flat and then meet the angled flange. its the same thing as if you had straight runner and a straight flange meeting an angled head.

the only way your angled argument works is if you do a tubular manifold like the stocker where the runners come up and then go down to meet the same angle as the head. i have never seen someone who cut the stock flange off and did this or else they would just be replicating the stock mani.

Tech/Sales@EM 02-01-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarzan134 (Post 1236506)
When I called Raxles to ask about an axle for my speed 3, they told me they didn't make axles for our platform yet. He asked if I knew the guy who had just called asking about the same thing. It looks like they're seeing the interest, but they haven't jumped yet.

I dont know what Marty is so concerned about. I have spoken with him about this several times already. He stays busy with other axles but he has been reluctant to do the Speed3 axles. He will come to his sense soon im sure :)

MSMS3 02-02-2012 05:06 PM

Great guy. I recall he got busted up a bit a year or two ago in a small private plane crash, but has bounced back strong. Must just have a full plate. Give them a set of stock axles and I'll bet they can fab up some super strong ones for racing ASAP if he tells his shop to get it done.

kmac 02-03-2012 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by superskaterxes (Post 1239297)
the only problem with your statement is that in the pict posted earlier the runners are flat and then meet the angled flange. its the same thing as if you had straight runner and a straight flange meeting an angled head.

the only way your angled argument works is if you do a tubular manifold like the stocker where the runners come up and then go down to meet the same angle as the head. i have never seen someone who cut the stock flange off and did this or else they would just be replicating the stock mani.

Um no. Mine is cut and maintains factory angle . It was milled to do that and mine come straight out . U don't need to go down then up our factory head plus 3" of runner is more then enough runner length for boost. The head is 4.5 inches to the valve stem. Mine is nothing like factory and I've flowed the highest numbers on a flow bench after the port work, with the throttle body on. I've also hit the highest g/s on gas or meth after I changed my clutch. I never went over 28psi. On meth most of my logs were 26.5 and I still broke 600 g/s. So the runner angle plays a huge part as far as I'm concerned.

Novej 03-15-2012 11:53 PM

Axels intake manifold axels intake manifold axels intake etc.........which one is this thread about again??? Lol

SKiZ0TT 03-16-2012 06:18 AM

Well I ordered the drivers side axle from RockAuto - it's the EMPI one, hopefully it'll be good and not snap like the other poster.

Boosted Beluga 03-16-2012 06:50 AM

Hahaha just dont launch with it. If you have a ms6 then you might be fine but I wouldn't trust it.

Boosted Beluga 03-23-2012 07:22 AM

Any update on the upgraded ms3 axles?

Nitr0EngiE 06-27-2014 12:53 PM

supplmental information

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...6/#post2631344

galaxyspeed 02-02-2017 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomas (Post 1230047)
The neoprane boots from EMPI I used to replace OEM seem to be holding out well so far.

Hey man do you have the part numbers for the boots you used ?


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