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Matrix311 12-06-2012 09:11 PM

Cv axle exploded
 
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Just wondering if there is a good write up to replace the drivers side cv axel? I just realized mine is clicking and the grease exploded all over inside the wheel well.

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How safe is it to drive on this for a few more days? I won't be able to get a replacement until next week. What's the worst that could happen if something bad were to happen?

Im looking to get mine rebuilt by a local axle shop to retain the oem strength. Is there an alternate source for a quality replacement for a big turbo speed 3?

Thanks

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Mikey 12-06-2012 09:16 PM

I looked on you tube when I did mine. It was a bitch because of that lil damn pin going into the tranny...

Nitr0EngiE 12-06-2012 09:20 PM

its best to buy a used one thats still good and if you want for satisfaction replace the boot on it if you want.

Mikey 12-06-2012 09:22 PM

It looks like its just the boot

Spec 12-06-2012 09:24 PM

Should be alright , just take it easy on it and avoid cutting your wheels sharply and delivering a lot of power. I'd wonder about the quality of parts the rebuild shop is using. If anything other than Oem, make sure it has a lifetime warranty if possible.

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Originally Posted by Mikey (Post 1778562)
It looks like its just the boot

Said it was clicking.

smoogs12 12-06-2012 09:29 PM

does it click/pop when going straight or just when turning.

Matrix311 12-06-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by smoogs12 (Post 1778579)
does it click/pop when going straight or just when turning.

No popping. I can only hear the clicking at very slow speed like when I'm backing out of my driveway.

Good call on the youtube video.

What size is the big nut that holds the driveshaft in the hub. Looks like 33-35mm?

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smoogs12 12-06-2012 10:00 PM

Clicking while going straight is bad news. Otherwise you should be fine for a bit.

Matrix311 12-06-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by smoogs12 (Post 1778607)
Clicking while going straight is bad news. Otherwise you should be fine for a bit.

Guess we will find out. Besides youtube, are there any specific MS3 how-to videos or threads on MSF on how to remove the driveshaft?

The place I'll be taking my driveshaft to is Phoenix Rack and Axle. I've been going to them for a long time. The have built custom drive shafts for my Jeeps and they have also done gearing and axle work on my Jeeps as well. They should be able to rebuild this driveshaft hopefully at a decent price. I'll try to pull it tomorrow morning and drop it off to hopefully get it back on Saturday.

Again does anyone know the size of the axle nut?

smoogs12 12-06-2012 10:37 PM

almost positive that the axle nut is 32mm

Mikey 12-06-2012 10:52 PM

I just went to my garage to double check and yes its a 32..

Matrix311 12-06-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey (Post 1778653)
I just went to my garage to double check and yes its a 32..

Excellent thanks

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Scribbles 12-07-2012 12:47 AM

Bt finally kill it? Gl on getting it out

SleeperHatch 12-07-2012 12:49 AM

I just replaced mine not too long ago my driver side was torn pretty bad as well. Its much easier to just source an OEM CV axle. I bought one off ebay for like $150 shipped and just popped it on. I have my old one that is actually still in perfect shape sitting here just needs a new boot and I've been to lazy to just by one. Let me know if your interested.

fooqr 12-07-2012 03:27 AM

I would do this^.

Same thing happened to me last year, and I ended up buying a new boot (P/N GG46-22-640) from the dealer (there are no aftermarket boots that fit) for $70, and paying my mechanic to replace it. It looked like a pain to replace the boot on my own. I got lucky, and the CV joint appears to still work over a year later.

If I had to do it again, I would just get a new axle. They're relatively cheap.

SleeperHatch 12-07-2012 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fooqr (Post 1778752)
I would do this^.

Same thing happened to me last year, and I ended up buying a new boot (P/N GG46-22-640) from the dealer (there are no aftermarket boots that fit) for $70, and paying my mechanic to replace it. It looked like a pain to replace the boot on my own. I got lucky, and the CV joint appears to still work over a year later.

If I had to do it again, I would just get a new axle. They're relatively cheap.

Rock Auto has them for $14...have you tried them?

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fooqr 12-07-2012 04:05 AM

Right, so, apparently, the inside of the OEM boot is "keyed" so that generic aftermarket boots that lack the keying (all of them) don't seal well. I hadn't understood this until I actually bought an aftermarket CV boot from Napa that was also supposed to be a fit for the MS3 and it didn't fit at all. I had to return it.

Replacing the CV boot seemed so simple in theory, but in the end I didn't save any money, wasted a lot of time, and ended up with a CV joint that I couldn't be sure was going to last. Seriously, next time I would replace the half-axle.

Danish 12-07-2012 05:30 AM

Same situation with a different car. Damn torch getting a few bolts loose + a few days later/parts.

Go with Gale/SleeperHatch on this one. Easier solution in the end.

kritz 12-07-2012 05:50 AM

The job is a pita! There is a wire circlip at the splined end that engages into the tranny. To get it out a good amount of force is needed (a good whack with a lump hammer). Getting it in is also fun, and torque that axle nut down good!

taf0422 12-07-2012 06:08 AM

When I did mine a few months ago, I replaced it with a one from ebay MAC or
something like that. Marked as new. Looked pretty nice when I got it. I have a lift so taking it off wasnt that bad. We also just yanked on the axel until it popped out of joint inside the boot then cut the boot off. Removed the end part of the axle. That way it was easy to make sure it was perfectly straight when we pulled it out and no extra weight to have to worry about.

I had a pry bar on the top and my brother had one on the bottom. We put pressure on both ends and pop. Came right out on the first try. Good luck but it seems as tho youre having a shop do it so they should be fine

jm211 12-07-2012 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by taf0422 (Post 1778824)
I had a pry bar on the top and my brother had one on the bottom. We put pressure on both ends and pop. Came right out on the first try. Good luck but it seems as tho youre having a shop do it so they should be fine



I'd source a friend or dad and do this. Thats how we replaced my dad's mazda6 v6 and my sister civic and a few other cars.

I'd replace both CV's if it was me. Mine started clicking when i get off the clutch too quick so I suspect I'll be up to that plate soon.

At the same time replace any bushings (swaybar) with OEM or some popular aftermarket like SURE.

taf0422 12-07-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jm211 (Post 1778836)
I'd source a friend or dad and do this. Thats how we replaced my dad's mazda6 v6 and my sister civic and a few other cars.

I'd replace both CV's if it was me. Mine started clicking when i get off the clutch too quick so I suspect I'll be up to that plate soon.

At the same time replace any bushings (swaybar) with OEM or some popular aftermarket like SURE.

The passengers side axle is a piece of cake. No clip that holds it in. As soon as it is unbolted just give a little tug and it just slides out. Nothing like the drivers side.

Matrix311 12-07-2012 08:35 AM

Thanks for the info!

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Matrix311 12-07-2012 10:54 AM

Quick question, I have the axle nut removed and the bolt/nut for the lower ball joint removed. How do I get this driveshaft out? Do I just pound on it with a BFH until it pops out of the wheel hub? Then use a pry bar to remove it from the transmission?

Also how much fluid will I lose out of the transmission?

Thanks for your replies!

Matrix311 12-07-2012 11:30 AM

So I've removed more stuff and this is where I'm at. How do not get the shaft out of the hub? Don't turn it a certain way and pound it out?

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jracer 12-07-2012 11:44 AM

Put the nut on the axle loose on hit it with a large hammer

Mikey 12-07-2012 12:01 PM

Thatt will give you some play doing that.. what I did was get under the car and try to pry it out a little with a crow bar. Be careful of the gasket. Then you have to turn and yank that bitch.. don't be nice. That's is why if you take it off the big nut you pull from the tire end..

Spec 12-07-2012 12:02 PM

Before you hit it, do yourself a favor and bolt the lca back up and upon reinstall slap some all purpose grease on the splines of the axle going into the hub. You'll give me a handjob if you ever have to take it back off.

taf0422 12-07-2012 12:05 PM

Yep just put the nut back on the end until sort of flush and whack it a few times. It will start to back out of the hub.

SleeperHatch 12-07-2012 12:09 PM

Just pull the boot off and replace it that way you don't have to fight getting it out

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Matrix311 12-07-2012 12:17 PM

ok i got it out of the hub, just kept wacking it with the BFH. Now the next part is getting it out of the transmission. Any special tricks or wedge points to get it out? All thats left is the boot and the spline going into the transmission. The Axle pulled right out of the boot as nothing was holding it in place. Now I need to pull the boot and spline. If I use a pry bar I would probably have to use two so it pulls STRAIGHT OUT of the transmission? Any tips or tricks on this part is appreciated. I'm ready to get this out and put the new one in place so I can drive my car again.

SleeperHatch 12-07-2012 12:55 PM

Just replace the boot now if the one in there is still good otherwise you need some fast hard yanks on it and make sure your pulling straight out

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Matrix311 12-07-2012 01:26 PM

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Just replace the boot now if the one in there is still good otherwise you need some fast hard yanks on it and make sure your pulling straight out

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I already have a brand new axle sitting next to me waiting to be put in. I just need to pull this out of the transmission and i'm good to go. Here is my latest progress.
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kritz 12-07-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrix311 (Post 1779398)
ok i got it out of the hub, just kept wacking it with the BFH. Now the next part is getting it out of the transmission. Any special tricks or wedge points to get it out? All thats left is the boot and the spline going into the transmission. The Axle pulled right out of the boot as nothing was holding it in place. Now I need to pull the boot and spline. If I use a pry bar I would probably have to use two so it pulls STRAIGHT OUT of the transmission? Any tips or tricks on this part is appreciated. I'm ready to get this out and put the new one in place so I can drive my car again.

BFH is needed The wire circlip is holding it in. Apoly more force.

Matrix311 12-07-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kritz (Post 1779499)
BFH is needed The wire circlip is holding it in. Apoly more force.

Do I put a pry bar in there and hit that with bfh? It wants to come out so bad lol

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Matrix311 12-07-2012 06:42 PM

UPDATE: I found a super easy solution to removing the axle out of the transmission. DO NOT USE A PRY BAR!! I used a $10 pickel fork and lodged it between the axle and transmission and one pop with the BFH it flew right off. I spent several hours pulling and pushing and smacking several sized pry bars and it just would not budge plus it was hard to get a good grip point on the axle. The fork has 2 points which spread the force evenly and allowed the axle spline to pull straight out instead of being pinched each direction that the pry bar was causing.

So for anyone needing to remove their axle, please spend $10 on a ball joint remover or pickel fork and hit it once with the BFH and walla!!

ko4_tony 08-18-2016 12:19 PM

Going to try this today!

WetzMS3 08-18-2016 12:26 PM

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Going to try this today!

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4 years later this thread has revived.


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