damn third gear....
 

went to shift into third at wot and it wouldnt go.. so i tried again after it wouldnt go and it like missed or didnt engaged all the way popped out and heard a bang like something hit the car.. was that just engine movement?

drove the car around the neighborhood this morning and everything seemed fine. didnt drive it hard just nice and slow just to see if anything was wrong.. so i guess it was engine movement but it was a pretty loud bang

where you WOT shifting? if so u need a stonger mototr mount or the corksport inserts. i have the corksport incerts and never missed third again

SU MM FTW!

yea wot.. so is that most likely what it was?

yeah most definitely need a stiffer motor mount.

i had that same problem, then i got the corksport inserts and it seemed to be less frequent and less harsh. but i still miss third every once in awhile, if im not paying attention.

cp-e's piece looks really nice. i plan on changing out the inserts soon, they're not really for aggressive driving. just an improvement really.

i have a trz poly and i have problems with 2nd and 3rd gear

I have the SU and still miss 3rd @WOT sometimes.

3rd at wot is a horrible, horrible, thing.

and second gear after a down shift or at high rpms and braking is bad. but this thread is about 3rd...third @ wot = t3h lose

I find shifting into 3rd you need to do a little slower than the rest of the gears.:sad: I was missing 3rd a lot when I first got the car, slowed my shift down a little, and haven't missed it since.

I have the TRZ and absolutely love it. I've missed third one time after hundreds of hard throws. I think that was because I didn't hit the clutch hard enough and it was at the track. A very sticky well prepped track. Scared me though because the low fuel warning came on and started beeping at me, I though I had broke something hehe.

Some of yous probably aren't missing 3rd gear @WOT much because you aren't shifting fast enough.

I'de rather slow it down a little and not miss the gear...

I hear you but it sucks that we have to slow it down, adjust, etc just to make a shift into 3rd@WOT. I wonder how many people are going to have blown transmissions because of this. I bet I'll be one of them but hopefully it happens within my warranty period and the dealer isn't a dick about it. - It really sucks when you're racing someone and you can't get into 3rd because your car lifts too high up and you shifted too fast or some crazy shit.

ive never missed third and i wot shift all the time, take a look at your cai you probably have a dent in it from the shifter weight, with mine even having a motor mount from me wot shifting a little to hard apparently that there is a nice lil dent in it now lol

It sucks but with the stock throws being a little longer then most would like, you have to slow down. For me it wasn't a huge difference in shifting speed, just enough not to miss anymore. I think missing 3rd has a lot to do with seating position, passenger (being a bigger guy this makes a difference), and most importantly how you shift. I have seen a lot of people talk and ask about shifting and a lot of the mistakes come from grabbing the knob while shifting rather than pushing/pulling the knob.

i agree...i shouldn't have to drive my car in a different way than it was designed just to make 3rd @ wot.



i think it has to do with cables and synchros, not so much driving position. there was an explanation i read on 247 (i think) that talked about wot and how long the cables to the tranny are. maybe i misread and didn't understand, but that's what i remember.

I must not be the norm, because I've never missed 3rd or any other gear, when going WOT or speeding through traffic.

I have missed a gear before though, 1st, forgot to engage the clutch fully :nono: I was sleepy :grumpy:

I tell you what, I have experienced all of the above. Missed at least twice in 3rd so bad that it felt like I ran into a curb (horrible), I have adjusted my shifting into 3rd and since I havent mis shifted 3rd once. Try it out and u guys judge fior yourselves. When you are ready to go into 3rd push the knob with your palm open (as to not guide it into thrird yourself) and no matter how fast you do it it always gos in right. I have always guided it in myself and missed at least 10 times in the last year. try it out guys, seems stupid but I dont think the mechanism is at fault, I think its us guiding the shifter to where we think it needs to go and sometimes we are wrong.

holy crap, guess I should re read my replies before hitting the send button. (going back to the 3rd grade now)

This is good advice but this is what I've been doing and I still don't always have a successful 3rd@ WOT shift. I'm honestly convinced it's just the nature of this car. The only thing I figured out that works most of the time is to slow it down, time it just right and pray to GOD in goes into 3rd.

When I say “WOT” I mean pedal to the floor balls to the wall and shifting really quick@5750rpms to stay on boost.

yea i went and looked at my intake and i have a lil dent in the side of it from the weight...

yupppp mine to lol

hey 08 u come down to the Pasadena area at all?

every once in a while .. im all over the place

so would a sts possibly help with this?

It helps a little bit.

there are a number of things that would possibly help. as stated earlier, some people report that an sts and bushings help, others say the mm replacement was the fix. new tranny fluid...seating position...actual shifting method...

good luck. i have the sts and bushings and a mm, and i still have this problem

I use to have this problem untill i removed the shifter weight. Shifting feels more mechanical now but i can wot shift like a mofo

If the intake is dented from the counterweight, then removing or trimming down the weight would clear up the contact between them, thus improving your WOT shifting. But timing, clutch pedal accuracy, and syncing your shift with the clutch properly help a lot. Even after all that, and a sts I still very occasionally miss third when really on the gas.

Also I am not fully convinced we have seen the best set of engine mounts produced for this car yet. I am not a mechanical engineer but the question begs, if many, many different car makers can produce motor mounts for high horsepower cars that have a low level of NVH , why did Mazda get it so wrong on the stock mounts? While the aftermarket's efforts on our car are appreciated, they are very simple and prone to severe NVH, making them somewhat brutal on a daily basis. The inserts don't fix much and are just a bandaid, requiring frequent replacement. we need a nice beefy, fully enclosed mount that correctly insulates the resonate frequncies @ idle, yet restricts enough movement to prevent all the stress on the transmission cables and other accessories.

Question is who is going to accomplish it first.....

you would think that this would be easier considering that the engineers "recommend" doing it.

2007 Mazdaspeed 3 - Road Test/Japanese Performance/High Performance/Hot Lists/Reviews/Car and Driver - Car And Driver

"Pop the clutch at 2900 rpm, upshift at 6000 — redline is 6700 — and flat-shift through second and third (which means don't lift at all — the mechanical equivalent of dropping a Steinway on the clutch and half-shafts and violating our test procedure).

"Don't worry," the engineers said, "it won't break."'