DCR VVT Actuator Update

[speed31982]

I just got off the phone with Darrell and since they can't get the actuators from Mazda right now this is the deal DCR is offering: Darrell Cox Racing - DCR VVT Actuator (Powered by CubeCart)

If you have an extra VVT that has NOT failed yet you can send it to them and they will pay $75.

If you want their upgrade and you have the core to send in they will take an extra $50 off the price listed on their website. (note: if you send in a core you normally get $100 off, so this will get you $150 off)

[djuosnteisn]

Not bad at all.... Hmm....

[triplejumper18]

So $239 less $150 when you return an undamaged one?

[speed31982]

Yes as long as it is undamaged they can rebuild it. Mazda has the huge recalls on them and DCR has a wait on getting cores.

[superskaterxes]

who do we talk to about sending one in? is there a form to fill out?

[RUMBLEFISH]

Wish I had known about this I would have had my dealer give me back they parts the replaced when they did the job.

[ak_spray]

Originally Posted by RUMBLEFISH Wish I had known about this I would have had my dealer give me back they parts the replaced when they did the job.

If its like any other manufacturer they wouldn't let you do that. Some recalls depending on the scope all the parts get returned. Otherwise they get thrown away so maybe you could search some dumpsters at a dealer.

[celery952]

Originally Posted by ak_spray If its like any other manufacturer they wouldn't let you do that. Some recalls depending on the scope all the parts get returned. Otherwise they get thrown away so maybe you could search some dumpsters at a dealer.

yeah, a recall like that its unlikely they will get sent back. its mostly when its an out of the blue warranty situation that something gets called back so they can look at it to see what failed.

I bet most dealers have some boxes of them sitting on the shelves just in case of a call back tho

[silvapain]

Fuck. For that price I'll put one in, and I don't even have any VVT issues...yet.


Tapadatass

[Tokay444]

This wasn't a recall.
It was an extended warranty.
If your unit was replaced under the warranty, it's because it was faulty, at which point DCR wouldn't have wanted it.

[speed31982]

I would just call the number on the website and say you heard about this on the forum. I just happened to call and get to talk to Darrell and this is the deal he said he would work out while the recall is going on.

And yes if the dealer had replaced yours then it was most likely bad. Either way if you have a VVT sitting around you can send it in and they will take a look at it and tell you if it is good enough to be used for a core.

[Tokay444]

What fucking recall?

[tbot]

Its not a recall per say, its a tsb.

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[Tokay444]

In which there is a VERY big difference.
It SHOULD be a recall.

[Mizzle]

After speaking with them about my shifter, they give zero fucks about us.

That said, $90 out of pocket???

How hard is this thing to install for someone that only has hand tools / no specialty tools?

:edit:
and only 1 day to do it in by himself.

[zenger]

holy cow good deal. But how does one go about getting the $150 off? What superskates said about who to talk to?

[RUMBLEFISH]

My work was not under a recall and I paid to have it replaced and it was my part. Not that it matters at this point but like I said had I know they would pay for a core I would have kept it.

[HPFPUPGRADE]

Originally Posted by speed31982 Yes as long as it is undamaged they can rebuild it. Mazda has the huge recalls on them and DCR has a wait on getting cores.

I just got two in yesterday? There is a recall on them but you can still get them if you know how (car down, in shop).

Originally Posted by superskaterxes who do we talk to about sending one in? is there a form to fill out?

Question, what happens if it makes noise after the modifications? With it being used and what not, would he still honor a warranty on used parts?

[MicaBlackMS6]

Originally Posted by HPFPUPGRADE I just got two in yesterday? There is a recall on them but you can still get them if you know how (car down, in shop).

It isn't a recall.

[HPFPUPGRADE]

Originally Posted by MicaBlackMS6 It isn't a recall.

TSB = Silent Recall

Mazda is trying to avoid it from going to recall status. I was told over the phone the other day that the CX7 is suppose to get a recall notice on this part.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Mizzle After speaking with them about my shifter, they give zero fucks about us. That said, $90 out of pocket??? How hard is this thing to install for someone that only has hand tools / no specialty tools? :edit: and only 1 day to do it in by himself.

You can do the vvt by just removing the valve cover.
You'll need timing tools.
And the diamond friction washer from Mazda.

Originally Posted by RUMBLEFISH My work was not under a recall and I paid to have it replaced and it was my part. Not that it matters at this point but like I said had I know they would pay for a core I would have kept it.

What recall?

[celery952]

either way if its a tsb or an ssm they still dont ever call that shit back, unless its a new phenomenon and they still dont know what it is thats causing the problem. However if they have updated the part know and know it works, they say trash them.



like radiators on a powerstroke 6.4, theres alot of value in a 40 lb clean alum radiator in a recycle center. lol


especially when you have like 10 of them

[KevMS6]

So this part is all that is required to prevent failure?
Would my local dealer likely fit it without fucking up?

[Tokay444]

If the vvt "breaks", all that will happen, is the pin won't seat itself on start up and you'll hear the tick at startup. What will happen is the intake cam will run ant full retardation until there is oil pressure in the oil control valve, at which point the pin is retracted and the cam because variable anyway.
There are two huge walls of metal at full retard and full advance, so it's not as is your chain and sprocket are going to be spinning and your cam is going to stay stationary.

[SPEED6 KILLAH]

Originally Posted by speed31982 I just got off the phone with Darrell and since they can't get the actuators from Mazda right now this is the deal DCR is offering: Darrell Cox Racing - DCR VVT Actuator (Powered by CubeCart) If you have an extra VVT that has NOT failed yet you can send it to them and they will pay $75. If you want their upgrade and you have the core to send in they will take an extra $50 off the price listed on their website. (note: if you send in a core you normally get $100 off, so this will get you $150 off)

Shit I have but 2 dozen vvt
There on back order until the 15th of this month because all the vvt prog

[HPFPUPGRADE]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 If the vvt "breaks", all that will happen, is the pin won't seat itself on start up and you'll hear the tick at startup. What will happen is the intake cam will run ant full retardation until there is oil pressure in the oil control valve, at which point the pin is retracted and the cam because variable anyway. There are two huge walls of metal at full retard and full advance, so it's not as is your chain and sprocket are going to be spinning and your cam is going to stay stationary.

I have seen a few break the button out of the VVT housing and spit the spring and cup into the bottom of the oil pan. This is very rare, but it does happen.

[Tokay444]

Yes, there's that, and the obvious metal shavings that result from scoring the pin seat into a slot.

[RUMBLEFISH]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 You can do the vvt by just removing the valve cover. You'll need timing tools. And the diamond friction washer from Mazda. What recall?

Oh yea not a recall my mistake. I guess I would call it the one more problem with the motor in line with the pcv and turbo. Mine has 96,000 miles had the chain slap so mine needed to be done. Still really enjoy the car and plan on keeping it until atleast its just about worn out. Dropping around $1000 is not bad after 96000 miles and the turbo would be next for me. I would like it to last until next year then should be good to go for another 50,000 atleast. I enjoy my cars the most when they are paid off.

[speed31982]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 If the vvt "breaks", all that will happen, is the pin won't seat itself on start up and you'll hear the tick at startup. What will happen is the intake cam will run ant full retardation until there is oil pressure in the oil control valve, at which point the pin is retracted and the cam because variable anyway. There are two huge walls of metal at full retard and full advance, so it's not as is your chain and sprocket are going to be spinning and your cam is going to stay stationary.

I was also under the impression that when this happens it will cause more tension on the chain causing it to stretch more quickly?

[Tokay444]

No.

The chain is a piece of shit too and stretches on its own.

[laxplayermjd]

son of a bitch. i just threw one in the garbage two days ago when i shipped the cams off to marcus

[06Speed6]

Originally Posted by laxplayermjd son of a bitch. i just threw one in the garbage two days ago when i shipped the cams off to marcus

Lmao damn man.

So I have two VVTs right now, is it free? Lol

[Tomas]

Someone should do a DCR VVT vasectomy and see if we can find out the size of pin he is using. I'd buy one of him if he weren't so unresponsive and lacking any kind of customer support.
Tokay canuc machinist should do it.

I also have 2 spare VVTs.

[Tokay444]

I totally agree. They take over a week to respond in inquiries and even when they do, they don't even answer the questions you ask.
Quite vapid actually.
I have PTP's vvt in my hand right now, and his idea is quite good.
Keeping the pin guided in perfect alignment is definitely going to aid in it seating properly, and not breaking the button off on the exterior with oil pressure pushing against a crooked pin. Sadly, I believe I bought the last one he had.
I'm going to take mine appart when I do the swap. I'm certain it's not even broken.

[ManiacMx3]

Darrel coxx racing is One of the worst companies I ever dealt with in my life. I ordered one of their actuators and after 3 weeks of calling and emailing them I never got a response.

I then posted on the companies Facebook wall, how SAD, and I asked them if the company had gone out of business. Granted this was at 1130 at night. I got a response in 30 secs to that because I now blew up their spot in front of all their Facebook friends. After 3 weeks the only response I get is on Facebook and that was to tell me they were on back order and had no idea when I would be able to get one. You think they would of told me this before they took my money, or maybe would of put it on their website so customers would know. I proceeded to get a refund from them. And they deleted our entire conversation off of their Facebook because they have the worst customer service I have ever had.

I would never purchase anything from them, $150 off or not u will probably not get what he tells you. Hell you probably won't ever get the product.

[JMEngineer]

FUCK DCR

They've owed me $700 for a couple years and keep ignoring my emails. I filed a report with the BBB and they ignored that too.

I have a couple spares but there's no way in hell I'm sending one to DCR before they pay me every penny of what they owe me

[Tokay444]

Post up on their Facebook yo!

[ManiacMx3]

Do it man!! Blow up their Facebook. It's the only way they answer because they can't stop u from doing it! And everyone will see it!

[JMEngineer]

hmmm... just got a $700 payment from DCR today

coincidence?

[HPFPUPGRADE]

Guys, if you want to send me your used VVT I will upgrade them for you at cost + 10% for handling fee's + shipping. I don't like the idea of upgrading the used units but if you guys want this as an option, I will do it.

Now, before anyone states that we are selling anything... that is not the case. I am offering a service that my machinist does for me. I think we would be looking at $80 each, but if we get enough of them I am sure the costs will come down.

I will need you guys to mark the VVT with your name and I will get these back to those that sent them to me. I am getting ready to run a small batch of new VVT's and I might as well add these to that to help everyone bring costs down.

If you want to send me your VVT's please send me a PM and I will get you all the details to make this happen.

Again, I am not profiting from this... I am simply trying to help out the community.

Thanks,

John