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gsrtype1 02-03-2009 09:55 AM

DG Motorsports awd speed3
 
I know this is a fairly old topic, Just wondering anyone know the scoop on this? If this could be done for 1-2k I would consider doing this proabably. No more whheels spin would be fantastico!!!


Lex 02-03-2009 09:57 AM

Naw man, I can pull it off in a couple of hours.

Driverman5777 02-03-2009 10:02 AM

thats really cool

mdogg 02-03-2009 10:03 AM

boil a unicorn horn in your meth mix and you will have an AWD speed 3 in no time ;)

Grim 02-03-2009 10:03 AM

you need a fuel cell in the back of the trunk.

aaronc7 02-03-2009 10:06 AM

if all else fails

AWD Kit [AWD45] - $450.99 : KaleCoAuto, Hard to find automotive items!

gsrtype1 02-03-2009 10:12 AM

haha... Reeally thought I think this would be worth while project Riding in ricks evo got me thinking about this awd is sooooo much better than wheelspin..

Lex 02-03-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gsrtype1 (Post 152241)
haha... Reeally thought I think this would be worth while project Riding in ricks evo got me thinking about this awd is sooooo much better than wheelspin..

Buy an AWD car then. Honestly, anything else is not worth it.

gsrtype1 02-03-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 152244)
Buy an AWD car then. Honestly, anything else is not worth it.

What do you mean anything else is not worth it?

Grim 02-03-2009 10:22 AM

it would be way too much trouble

ThrillaSpeed3 02-03-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronc7 (Post 152237)

:261:is that bs awd kit for real. it looks so much like a joke.
it even has good reviews. which makes me think the reviews are a joke too.

gsrtype1 02-03-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Grim (Post 152247)
it would be way too much trouble

What a buumer. Yeah I bet if it was feasable dg would have come out with a kit for sale by now.

Grim 02-03-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrillaSpeed3 (Post 152249)
:261:is that bs awd kit for real. it looks so much like a joke.
it even has good reviews. which makes me think the reviews are a joke too.

The whole site is joke

johnnyspeed6 02-03-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gsrtype1 (Post 152250)
What a buumer. Yeah I bet if it was feasable dg would have come out with a kit for sale by now.

HELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO .... all the ms6 hatin you do man ... take yours back to stock, get an ms6, and presto .. back to where you are now with AWD ... you know you want to :dance:

gsrtype1 02-03-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyspeed6 (Post 152256)
HELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO .... all the ms6 hatin you do man ... take yours back to stock, get an ms6, and presto .. back to where you are now with AWD ... you know you want to :dance:

haha yeah I was thinking about that I reeeally love my car but if I could go back I might have looked at the speed6s.. I prob could have gotten a discount too cuase they had alot on the lot.

Lex 02-03-2009 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gsrtype1 (Post 152250)
What a buumer. Yeah I bet if it was feasable dg would have come out with a kit for sale by now.

It would cost too much money, time, and it wont be as well integrated as a true AWD car. So there's no way you can win with a retrofit unless you are PURELY doing it for the sake of doing it.

ThrillaSpeed3 02-03-2009 10:49 AM

lets get a group buy for the awd kit. :rippedhand:

lol, that website had me for a sec. after lookin at the other products, i feel kinda salty.:pat:

red07 02-03-2009 11:12 AM

I haven't looked at the old thread, but from what I remember you have to run a fuel cell where the spare tire sits, so you lose the spare or stick it in the trunk. Plus you probably have to pop the trunk to refuel, pain in the @$$ if you have stuff back there.

If you're running meth, now you probably have tank in the trunk too, so the trunk becomes even more useless and cluttered.

You'll probably need an MS6 transmission, transfer case, either MS 6 or CX7 rear end, custom driveshaft, plus whatever brackets fabricated. You'll need brake lines too I suspect. If the transfer case is ECU-controlled, you will need a way to make that happen, or figure out a way to do this without an ECU.

Probably a lot more than $2k. It would be trick though.

ThrillaSpeed3 02-03-2009 12:02 PM

is there any guys from dg motorsports that can answer the question on how much it would cost.
the awd speed3 they made is amazin.

ATE BALLER 02-03-2009 12:07 PM

I think Tony from AWR (they did alot of the work on that car) said the conversion cost DG more than the cars msrp and it's not even 100% done yet. Sure you can do it, if you can pay for it.

gsrtype1 02-03-2009 01:27 PM

Damm you wouldn't think ti would be that expensive cuase the speed 3 tranny is the same as the speed6 it just has the back cut out..

gsrtype1 02-03-2009 01:48 PM

FWD is such feeeeeeces! lol its no so bad I guess during lunch I ripped a 5.8 sec 0-60 measured with the dashawk at 18psi with MASSIVE wheelspin and clutch slipping bad once I hit 3rd.

Phantomspeeds 02-03-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronc7 (Post 152237)

Please refrain from making left or right turns once this kit is installed. :pat:


The best way would be to inspect a speed 6 rearend and compare it to our speeds, look at whats missing, from what they said in the video was they where still using the stock ecu

the fuel cell is going to need to be custom made their might be a way to make it work with out having to fill up in the trunk just would have to carry a little less fuel or do duel tanks. With the drive shaft and fuel cell if you shop around you might be able get them for about a 1k then if you could get everything from a wreaked speed6 (-the drive shaft) you might be able to do it with a few grand < just make sure you have a good welding friend around> because it going to need alot of custom brackets

ATE BALLER 02-03-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gsrtype1 (Post 152363)
Damm you wouldn't think ti would be that expensive cuase the speed 3 tranny is the same as the speed6 it just has the back cut out..

Not exactly. The speed 3 doesn't have the output shaft built into the gearing that goes into the speed 6 transfer case. They had to get a fresh ms6 transmission (~$4,500), fresh ms6 transfer case ($3,562.49), fresh cx7 rear diff ($4,266.94), custom re-engineered suspention with new springrates (~$3,000), custom axels and driveshaft (~$2,000), custom mounting brackets (~$500), custom fuel cell (~$500). And then you have to figure in hourly rates for all the work...

red07 02-03-2009 04:02 PM

Or you could just get a EVO or STI and sink 5-6k in that and see what happens.

Damn, that's a lot of scratch for building a 4WD car.

gsrtype1 02-03-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ATE BALLER (Post 152437)
Not exactly. The speed 3 doesn't have the output shaft built into the gearing that goes into the speed 6 transfer case. They had to get a fresh ms6 transmission (~$4,500), fresh ms6 transfer case ($3,562.49), fresh cx7 rear diff ($4,266.94), custom re-engineered suspention with new springrates (~$3,000), custom axels and driveshaft (~$2,000), custom mounting brackets (~$500), custom fuel cell (~$500). And then you have to figure in hourly rates for all the work...

:yikes: thats alot of denero!

crazyitalian041 02-03-2009 07:21 PM

they quote people 10 grand(ish) to get it done.

martyxattack 02-03-2009 07:38 PM

haha

Man, before this awesome AWD kit, I was AIDS pos. The AWD kit not only allowed me to become neg, but the amount of black men that were attracted to me increased ten fold! Thanks AWD kit!!

www.cp-e.com 02-04-2009 08:26 AM

Hey, that exhaust sounds pretty nice! :wink1:

From what we gathered from DG, they used components from both the CX7 and the MS6 to complete the AWD package for the MS3. They also had considerable help from Mazda USA on the hardware/ECU to get it done. It was not straightforward by any means unfortunately.


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