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Tokay444 06-12-2013 09:40 AM

What percentage leak did you measure?

DTKII 06-12-2013 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2109817)
What percentage leak did you measure?

About 30% 75psi down to 55psi. I'm getting ready to email SPEEDPERF6RMANC3 for a quote on a short block.

Nliiitend1 06-12-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nliiitend1 (Post 1321511)
I checked my compression tonight. '08 MS3 with ~49K miles.

From left to right, it was:

128
126
127
129

I need to check it again with a different gauge/tester, as I'm not too confident in the accuracy of the one I used.

Related thread here:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-issues-92171/

Finally got around to doing this again with my shiny new compression tester and here are the results (car now has 61,819 miles):

Again, from left to right (with the engine warm):

186
182
189
186

I feel a bit better about those numbers. :)

Dano 06-12-2013 10:16 AM

shitty tester was shitty

What you can take away from any test is consistency. even low numbers, if they are all in the same ballpark is a good indication the motor is healthy and the gauge is the problem.

fivefingerdeathpunch 07-22-2013 10:27 PM

bumpity bump

did a compression test today. did it how a friend said to do it. dont think the engine was warm by the time i did the test

anyway got from left to right.. 170, 157, 170, 157

one person said thats fine... do you guys agree? i liked the consistency but obviously two are lower than the other two. should i redo with the proper method from the first page?

himurax13 07-22-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fivefingerdeathpunch (Post 2172388)
bumpity bump

did a compression test today. did it how a friend said to do it. dont think the engine was warm by the time i did the test

anyway got from left to right.. 170, 157, 170, 157

one person said thats fine... do you guys agree? i liked the consistency but obviously two are lower than the other two. should i redo with the proper method from the first page?

It isn't terrible but you should have done a wet test.

Sent via blown passenger side speakers.

fivefingerdeathpunch 07-22-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2172421)
It isn't terrible but you should have done a wet test.

Sent via blown passenger side speakers.

yeah i shouldve done it exactly as mentioned on the first page but my friend said he knew how to do it so i did what he said haha. i may redo it and do a wet test too if its the same results

Tokay444 07-23-2013 06:01 AM

A compression test doesn't really paint a full picture.
For example, my compression has always been in spec (when I do it by the MSF disi standard testing procedure), but my leakdown shows 31% leak in cyl 3.
If you go to the trouble to do a comp test, do a proper leak test at the same time.

sidekick 07-23-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2172590)
A compression test doesn't really paint a full picture.
For example, my compression has always been in spec (when I do it by the MSF disi standard testing procedure), but my leakdown shows 31% leak in cyl 3.
If you go to the trouble to do a comp test, do a proper leak test at the same time.

What is your compression number on that cylinder? It must be lower. That's a ton of leakage. How high does the gauge read on the first compression stroke when testing that cylinder? A low reading on the first stroke can also indicate issues, even if overall compression numbers are in spec.

scubasteve711 07-23-2013 01:26 PM

Agreed that a comp. test doesn't tell the whole story, but a cylinder that leaks down at 31% is going to have a variance in the comp test....

Tokay444 07-23-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidekick (Post 2173429)
What is your compression number on that cylinder? It must be lower. That's a ton of leakage. How high does the gauge read on the first compression stroke when testing that cylinder? A low reading on the first stroke can also indicate issues, even if overall compression numbers are in spec.

Compression at time of leak down was 182-176-178-180.

First pump is 90. Same as the rest.

sidekick 07-23-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2173532)
Compression at time of leak down was 182-176-178-180.

First pump is 90. Same as the rest.

Something isn't adding up. 30% leakage is significant. Did you find the source of the leakage? Rings, valves?


EDIT: Don't you have an issue with oil in your intact tract? Those compression numbers could be similar to "wet test" numbers if a significant amount of oil is entering your combustion chamber.

Tokay444 07-23-2013 02:34 PM

It's rings. Most likely a broken land. I burn a litre of oil/1000kms.

sidekick 07-23-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2173668)
It's rings. Most likely a broken land. I burn a litre of oil/1000kms.

Very interesting findings. Maybe your rings still seal well, but the cracked ringland is the source of the leakage? Any plans for a teardown?

Tokay444 07-23-2013 02:42 PM

Not until after my wedding.

btstarcher 07-23-2013 03:22 PM

Fucking liters....WTF Canada. :unitedstates:

Tokay444 07-23-2013 05:29 PM

Litres*

silvapain 07-23-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2173965)
Litres*

Quarts*


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BigRedSpecial 07-23-2013 07:43 PM

*Furlongs

Micha 07-23-2013 07:47 PM

Fathoms*

BigRedSpecial 07-23-2013 07:51 PM

My car gets 16 rods to the hogs head, and that's the way I likes it

Dano 07-23-2013 11:14 PM

^^^^ fagots*

theurgy 07-23-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btstarcher (Post 2173761)
Fucking liters....WTF Canada. :unitedstates:

You realize the rest of the world uses the metric system now right?

btstarcher 07-24-2013 12:28 AM

'Merica. Fuck you.

:usa:


:fuckyou:

Tokay444 07-24-2013 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dano (Post 2174475)
^^^^ fagots*

faggots*

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvapain (Post 2174156)
Quarts*


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almost.

Dano 07-24-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2174576)
faggots*


Thanks for the spelling correction...I knew a faggot would know how to spell it...you fell right into the trap :)

now rebuild your POS motor already.

Tokay444 07-24-2013 10:02 AM

tarp*

Dano 07-24-2013 10:04 AM

negative...you did in deed fall into my T R A P !

Tokay444 07-24-2013 10:21 AM

i really just want you to wrap me up in your tarp.
baby oil?

Dano 07-24-2013 10:27 AM

hahaha

not right now...maybe later?

azazelthegreat 07-28-2013 02:33 PM

Cylinders 1 3 and 4 were around 180
Cylinder 2 was at 60

Looked for leaks
Hooked my compressor to c2
No air from anywhere

himurax13 07-28-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azazelthegreat (Post 2182423)
Cylinders 1 3 and 4 were around 180
Cylinder 2 was at 60

Looked for leaks
Hooked my compressor to c2
No air from anywhere

How did you look for leaks?

azazelthegreat 07-28-2013 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2182429)
How did you look for leaks?

w
Air compressor hose where the cylinder 2 plug goes

Listened for air from intake oil cap area abx exaust

Came from intake at first but my friend told me to crank the motor once and it went away.


Going to his house in a few days to redo it just in case

btstarcher 07-28-2013 03:06 PM

I thought that leakdown test required you to be at TDC? Anyway also check around injector seals and dipstick. If it's coming from intake, is that intake valves?

Dano 07-28-2013 03:51 PM

Yes TDC compression stoke otherwise air just goes out the valves.

Tappin

ms3blackmica 08-05-2013 09:43 AM

Checked Compression again @ 73,000 miles yesterday. Motor was warm but not hot.

Still looking good.

203 202 202 205

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=h_c66_ZHe4E

btstarcher 08-05-2013 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ms3blackmica (Post 2195599)
Checked Compression again @ 73,000 miles yesterday. Motor was warm but not hot.

Still looking good.

203 202 202 205

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=h_c66_ZHe4E

I want to borrow your tester.

ms3blackmica 08-05-2013 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btstarcher (Post 2195616)
I want to borrow your tester.

I would gladly send it over to you Ben but it isn't mine!

ArmanRus 08-05-2013 10:16 AM

I need to do this. I'm at 102k miles and although she's pulling strong and not burning any oil, I want to for the peace of mind.

LatinKraze 08-05-2013 09:48 PM

2007 106,000 miles
Fully Bolted +BNRs3

119-121-120-121

On two different gauges (HF and O'Rileys). Wet test gave me an extra 2-3 psi. My buddy is letting me borrow a tester where he hits 180 psi. We'll see what his gauge yields and we'll also be doing a leak down


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