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 Old 01-18-2012, 11:37 AM   #281
 
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I had a cracked ringland in cylinder 3 and had oil going through my intake tract like yours (starting at the VC vent and permeating to the IM).


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Yeah, but I think oil gets in the intake from the vc regardless of broken rings.
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Vacuum shows -10 on the AP.
You've got that in inches of mercury instead of psi? There is more resolution in that reading.

Note that a drop in compression can readily be seen in the steady state vacuum reading of the car.

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Yeah, but I think oil gets in the intake from the vc regardless of broken rings.
Does not - it gets in there if blowby exceeds a certain amount (ie there is a certain amount of leakage into crankcase of combustion gases under load) as the crankcase pressure pushes the oil through the intake tract from the valvetrain.
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I need that valve flush. Bad.
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Does not - it gets in there if blowby exceeds a certain amount (ie there is a certain amount of leakage into crankcase of combustion gases under load) as the crankcase pressure pushes the oil through the intake tract from the valvetrain.
Agreed. The car was tracked extensively before and I never had this issue until the cracked ringland.
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I hais oil in my intake.
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I hais oil in my intake.
I haz forged motor looking for a hew home
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I hais oil in my intake.
Do you haz compression and leakdown test?
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No leak down yet.
Compression in #3 is 165psi.
Bluestreak, how much.
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I never posted my results from a couple months ago.

80,000 miles (10,000 on big turbo)
1. 184
2. 186
3. 188
4. 190

The car was still warm when the test was performed.
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@SPEED6 KILLAH would have info on the Mazda valve flush.

Pablo... any info on restoring compression with a proprietary DI valve flush?
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146,000 miles and approx. 170 psi on all cylinders.
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20k miles on rebuilt motor with stock compression
1. 185
2. 188
3. 180
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On 26 May 2010, I did the test. I got:

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Passenger side
188
190
190
195
Driver's side
26k miles, entirely stock block
Just did it again today. 55k miles, still stock block.

Passenger side
175
175
175
180
Driver's side

Uh oh
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On 26 May 2010, I did the test. I got:



Just did it again today. 55k miles, still stock block.

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Driver's side

Uh oh
Atmospheric pressure as well as the tester used and heat of engine will affect readings. Make sure you are very consistent - those numbers are very even which is good.
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Originally Posted by Tokay444 View Post
No leak down yet.
Compression in #3 is 165psi.
Bluestreak, how much.
I was gonna ask in private. Pm me if you'd like.
that motor does need a good home...I would buy it but waaaay tooooo far away from me...lol
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It's more than I can bite off right now, but worth every penny I'm sure.
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oh I am sure he would give a fellow Canadian a brother in law deal

I actually have no idea what a built motor would cost and frankly I am sure it would scare the shit out of me....lol

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06speed6 I believe it was or maybe it was quartermilebeast quoted me around $2600.
This was substantially more than that. But there are two many variables to even try to compare the two.
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^^ was this a complete motor with aftermarket rods/pistons? or stock?
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It was built.

It was beast, and it was $5200 built.
Not 2600 because I'm and idiot. And it was months ago.
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$2600 Canuc Dorra > $5200 American Durrah.
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Moar info on this high pressure valve flush unicorn magic pixie dust job?

What's the official name of it? I.e. if I call my dealership, what do I refer them to?
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It's called the disi valve flush. If they say "wut?", it means they don't have the machine.
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It was built.

It was beast, and it was $5200 built.
Not 2600 because I'm and idiot. And it was months ago.
hahah I was going to say there was some smuck trying to sell an OE longblock on here for 2600. now that waaay too much for a used disi but I would buy a dozen built motors if they were 2600

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$2600 Canuc Dorra > $5200 American Durrah.

I am convinced the cold air kills brain cells....my brother moved to Grand Rapids about 15 years ago and I swear he gets dumber each year...he used to be fairly smart...i dunno...

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It's called the disi valve flush.
is that a new dance move?
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tokay, is that a real thing? Im planning on doing a valve clean in the spring. I have one of those inspection cameras on a long flexible head. wonder if it would come in handy

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bg makes a two step valve flush for direct injection motors that some vw dealerships use. probably just a seafoam or gm top end cleaner copy but who knows? wish i hadnt just changed my oil or id try it out at work.
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Seafoam is drinking water compared to the shit they use in the valve flush.
@breakfasteatre, it's legit.
There's a dealer in richmondhill that does it.
One of two in the gta so far.
It's expensive, but works.
Whole thing takes about 2-3 hours.
Your camera should give you a good before and after image.
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How much?
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If the whole thing takes 2-3 hours, figure shop rates that's about $200 in labour.
Now parts and such for the cleaning, I'm guessing is another $200.. so if I had to guesstimate a cost, I'm gonna say $300 - $400.
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It's around 3-400 bucks.
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I would like to see what mine look like at 40K miles....20K with spraying meth...

then again to see what would happen to a newly cleaned set of valves and spraying WMI the entire time...I think I will always spray at least H20...on the E35 I don't currently need meth for fuel..right at 85% IDC.

I will def clean mine when I get the JMSD IM and see what's what.
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I just did a compression test on my MS6 for the first time.
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I just tested mine last night
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Driver
180
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180
180
Passenger

Should i be concerned that cylinder 2 is 15 psi under the rest?
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I checked my compression tonight. '08 MS3 with ~49K miles.

From left to right, it was:

128
126
127
129

I need to check it again with a different gauge/tester, as I'm not too confident in the accuracy of the one I used.

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str8 180 0n all 4

65000 miles

bt 15000 miles

26 psi
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Originally Posted by Nliiitend1 View Post
I checked my compression tonight. '08 MS3 with ~49K miles.

From left to right, it was:

128
126
127
129

I need to check it again with a different gauge/tester, as I'm not too confident in the accuracy of the one I used.
Related thread here:

Oil Volume issues...
The consistency is great. I think the gauge is reading low because the power numbers you're making would not line up with compression that is 30% down.

I just redid mine:

cyl 4 (driver): 190
cyl 3: 188
cyl 2: 190
cyl 1: 190

60,000 km (37k miles)

Also remember to crank enough times - until the gauge stops going up. It can take up to 20 cranks. Remove all spark plugs when doing this so engine cranks easier.
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Just did mine a couple weeks ago.

150
150
135
150
My injector seals are blown, We will see if it helps out cylinder 3
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Did mine a month ago. 08 ms3 44k.

190 in all 4 and took about 6 cranks to hit that number.
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