Evil number 3

[crazyitalian041]

i didnt get it... call me 301 641 4365 thats my other cell

[Sanch]

Dang man I got scared but if you weren't tuned and with out a dash hawk then shiet. Sorry to hear though. Mazda will be cock suckers but o well I guess thats their policy. Anyways we have the same mods but I got tuned. You could have been pushing a lot more power and had a lot less to worry about. I don't understand why you didn't get tuned. Its like buying something and not using it. Whats the point of that? Not trying to talk shit but yeah best of luck! And if Randy is telling you that you need a tune then you really do because he is super trustable when it comes to the speed.

[Decepticon]

Stock, non-stock, tuned, not-tuned...it doesn't matter, they all have blown...no one really knows the exact reasons...maybe it is the same case with the engine mounts, we jst have weak rods...who the hell knows? shit gets me paranoid. I want to know if the blown engines have some correlation with the model year of the car.

I was talking to a friend of mine about it and he says that probably because the people with blown engines have been constantly shifting at higher rmps during normal driving conditions. I dont know if thats true but i know i shift under 3k normally while cruising. Anyways, our engines shouldn't be blowin up like that no matter what though...oh well..im just gonna sit it out for while till someone figures it out...

[johnnyspeed6]

Originally Posted by Decepticon Stock, non-stock, tuned, not-tuned...it doesn't matter, they all have blown...no one really knows the exact reasons...maybe it is the same case with the engine mounts, we jst have weak rods...who the hell knows? shit gets me paranoid. I want to know if the blown engines have some correlation with the model year of the car. I was talking to a friend of mine about it and he says that probably because the people with blown engines have been constantly shifting at higher rmps during normal driving conditions. I dont know if thats true but i know i shift under 3k normally while cruising. Anyways, our engines shouldn't be blowin up like that no matter what though...oh well..im just gonna sit it out for while till someone figures it out...

You know .. this makes me think .. the speed6 I bought had about 20k on it ... AND, a month previous to purchasing it a new motor was put in ... I wonder If I can trace it back and see if there is a difference in the "type" of motor they replaced it with .. I guess what im saying is that mazda surely knows about the line of bad motors and maybe they replace the popped ones with another model that has addressed the issue of the bad motors.. or at least I can try and see why it was replaced ... I would really like to know what happened to mine previous to me purchasing it ... gotta look into this

[94jedi]

maybe it's just a bad batch of rods? or poor casting process??? what I don't get is how some cars blow relatively easily and others, (Loosh/Darksun - I always use them as the example) have beaten the piss out of their cars for thousands of miles without issue.

[watdog]

Stock, non-stock, tuned, not-tuned...it doesn't matter, they all have blown...no one really knows the exact reasons...maybe it is the same case with the engine mounts, we jst have weak rods...who the hell knows? shit gets me paranoid. I want to know if the blown engines have some correlation with the model year of the car.

Stock, I would have to say that many of the stock one's went because of oil from the PCV/EGR system.
Non-stock, well whoosh addressed the PCV/EGR problem and hit 380 something AWHP. Of course with a few other mods. However, he was using the stock ecu.
Tuned, I don't know of anyone tuned that has blown yet. Most people tuned also would have the oil catch can.
Not-tuned, well if you bought a tuning device then why wouldn't you tune it to work with your mods. Tuned by a professional or someone who has tuned these engines also. Someone that tune's there own and really has no idea what they are doing just adds to popping motors.

I drive my car all day between 3K-5K. 6th gear rarely gets used. Prior to the oil catch can installation and the itv-22 I would feel sputtering occastionally. Also an occational smoking out the exhaust with stock exhaust in the summer. I have an early build car. My car is a MS6 build date 11/05. Still on stock fuel pump as mazda won't perform the TSB, and won't smoke in front of them. Still runs great. Actually better than the day I bought it (Mazda performed the clutch TSB).

Now to just take off that intake manifold to clean all the crap out.

[Lex]

You guys have to browse more forums and see that other cars "blow" as well.

[94jedi]

Originally Posted by Lex You guys have to browse more forums and see that other cars "blow" as well.

agreed but there's no denying that there is an underlying problem here...be it the BS or bad rods or something else...

[AndyMS3]

Originally Posted by 94jedi agreed but there's no denying that there is an underlying problem here...be it the BS or bad rods or something else...

I think the 'something else' in your statement should refer to the untold, other half of the "blown engine" stories. I'm positive that negligence is a big factor in many of these blown engines. I mean, why would a guy come on here and tell the story about how he mis-shifted from 5th to 2nd and corked his rod through the block? not only would he be ridiculed by the other users of the forum, he also risks having is post seen by Mazda North Americas Forum Creeper Squad, an eInvestigation launched tracking his e-mail to recent mod lists or a Cardomain account with incriminating photos and his warranty revoked when he visits his primary dealership. I think there is more than meets the eye with this issue, and the lack of concrete evidence supports my opinion.

[94jedi]

Originally Posted by stratum I think the 'something else' in your statement should refer to the untold, other half of the "blown engine" stories. I'm positive that negligence is a big factor in many of these blown engines. I mean, why would a guy come on here and tell the story about how he mis-shifted from 5th to 2nd and corked his rod through the block? not only would he be ridiculed by the other users of the forum, he also risks having is post seen by Mazda North Americas Forum Creeper Squad, an eInvestigation launched tracking his e-mail to recent mod lists or a Cardomain account with incriminating photos and his warranty revoked when he visits his primary dealership. I think there is more than meets the eye with this issue, and the lack of concrete evidence supports my opinion.

I can certainly agree w/ that. My car is modded and I do go to the drag strip but I drive like a normal person 95% of the time. In fact, even my "spirited" driving is rather tame by most accounts. Keeping that in mind, I've never had an issue, my car doesn't smoke, don't have the cold-grinding-gears problem etc....

I'm sure some of it is negligence but you have to expect some of that from the masses that buy this car, especially since the car is such a great value in terms of $ per HP.

[watdog]

Yet you don't have an Oil catch can installed. Highly recommended as that is what gets sucked in under the partial throttle that people are talking about. Partial throttle PCV full open and sucking oil into the engine. Everyone knows where the oil is coming from yet people still don't do the catch can. Yet they will to remove the balance shaft. Which doesn't cause oil into the intake. Weird.

[mexicant]

fucking part throttle boost always gets em

[mlassek]

Originally Posted by stratum I think the 'something else' in your statement should refer to the untold, other half of the "blown engine" stories. I'm positive that negligence is a big factor in many of these blown engines. I mean, why would a guy come on here and tell the story about how he mis-shifted from 5th to 2nd and corked his rod through the block? not only would he be ridiculed by the other users of the forum, he also risks having is post seen by Mazda North Americas Forum Creeper Squad, an eInvestigation launched tracking his e-mail to recent mod lists or a Cardomain account with incriminating photos and his warranty revoked when he visits his primary dealership. I think there is more than meets the eye with this issue, and the lack of concrete evidence supports my opinion.

right and smoking doesnt cause cancer either.

[watdog]

Smoking causes cancer? Crap maybe I should quit smoking. LOl

[AndyMS3]

Originally Posted by mlassek right and smoking doesnt cause cancer either.

lol

Smoking does cause cancer and they have a definitive link between the two whereas all of these people who seem to be blowing stock engines in stock form while "cruising" have 0.

And then you have the bunch who modify without preventative measures..

[94jedi]

Originally Posted by stratum And then you have the bunch who modify without preventative measures..

did someone call for me?

[wisniaPl]

what if you have meth?? do you still need catch can? meth should clean engine... so catch can seems to be not necessary....

[mlassek]

occ would be alot easier

[watdog]

So if smoking causes cancer does that mean everyone's car that smoked from the turbo has cancer now?

[mlassek]

^^^

[jmhinkle]

Thanks to MAP sensors, electronic boost control and elevation, I was running 23 psi and fighting knock issues all through November and December into the beginning of January. I'm a lucky bastard that I don't have a bent rod, but it brings up two things in my mind. 1) Why does this seem more prevalent on 3's than 6's? Just because there are more of them? I just don't remember any blown 6's for this reason. I remember some disconnected boost lines and big PSI and also some unadulterated attempts to blow the motor, but not this 3rd gear mid throttle boom issue. 2) Have we had a blown motor (not a disconnected boost line pushing 30psi) with the BSD done. I did my BSD early on at like 5K miles or something and so far I'm really grateful I did so early.

[watdog]

Have we had a blown motor (not a disconnected boost line pushing 30psi) with the oil catch can done?

[Sanch]

This sucks! Although my car is out for a while because of the hit run, it still sucks that I am becoming afraid to push my car. It sucks bad. I don't ever push th e car anymore. I hope someone figures out the problem. I hope pg gets the forge rods for the speed so I could replace my rods and not have to worry.

[ptperformance]

Damn sorry to hear about this. I didnt' see it anywhere but were you still on stock boost?

[Sanch]

I am on 17 psi and a gradual around 4500 rpms. It goes from 7-17.5 psi. No knock or anything. Hey ptp are you guys making rods to fit the stock pistons?

[barcainho]

rob had his car at gaithesburg and they f***ed him bad. im from rockville too btw

[crazyitalian041]

matt (the op) worked at gburg mazda. lol