It finally happened

[SLS MS3]

Gonna head up to Cobb shortly to take a look at the carnage. No catch can, but I've never had a real issue with the PCV system especially when compared to Aaron's car. Wasn't monitoring knock at the time, had the AP set to display AFR. I had been at Discount Tire a couple of blocks away from Cobb getting a bolt removed from one of my tires. I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet, but I am for sure not getting an Evo.

Originally Posted by davesxx01 Not so sure about that. He had 63K on his motor, 40K fully bolted, and he stated he just removed the BS last December. If, thats if, the BS has anything to do with these motors popping, I'm guessing he still had it in for 50K miles.

Balance shaft has been off the car for a good 25k miles at least. I've racked up that 63k in just barely over 2 years.

[rodrigo]

i hear the yaris with nitrogen in its tires gets really good mpg's

[davesxx01]

Originally Posted by Lex Lols, can you explain how a the BS ghost locked up his motor?

Lex, love what your doing here and other posts in trying to figure out these causes!
I did'nt say the BS locked it up! Didn't say it didn't either.

What I meant is:
OP obviously ran his BS installed for probably 4x,xxx miles before removeing it. Most of those fully modded! IF, thats IF, the BS is causing extra stress on the rods/pistons, that stress has been going on for quite some time!
Didn't you post in another thread (Kaboom!) how rods give way after x cycles? Excellent post and link you provided by the way!
Rod fatigue, I'm guessing, wasnt magicly cured by the removal of his BS at 40K miles.

What is strange is the ammount of people popping while in the middle of a shift!! Has anybody researched this?

Originally Posted by SLS MS3 Balance shaft has been off the car for a good 25k miles at least. I've racked up that 63k in just barely over 2 years.

Wow! must do lots of driving! Thanks for clearing that up!
Look forward to pics and thoughts.

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by Target:STi sorry to hear it man. update the resource thread when you get a chance.

That blown motor thread is missing almost 30 cars. yes I said 30. I got depressed updating it so I just stopped.....

[rodrigo]

now all of a sudden I see myself thanking god instead of cursing him for making my car so underpowered.

242whp ftw bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!

[starscream]

Sorry to hear bro!

I think I am going to keep the engine stock...

[SB.MS3]

for the record--all of you guys saying that 60,000 miles is a good long run, thats fucking stupid.
Any motor that blows with only bolt-ons before 100,000 needs to be looked at carefully. you can find hondas fully bolted, turbo'd with no/bad tune and driven by a 17 yr old retard that boosts in to a parking spot that will still last 125,000. sorry to bust balls but if i wanted a car that would only last 60,000 miles i would have gone with a GM pos.

btw: if cycl #3 runs leaner than the others and a AP leans out your mixture with their pre-set tunes why are we not looking further into this?

[glocK23]

I wonder how many have blown without a tune compared to people with a tune...

Thank goodness for my stock tune

[SB.MS3]

Originally Posted by glocK23 Thank goodness for my stock tune

looks like what im sticking with...

[rodrigo]

^^^^ nice rep power. and 60k miles aint shit..... 100k on a honda and I still consider that a half life engine at least.

let's race to 80k.... I got another 17k to go.

[Laloosh]

people still trying to make bullshit excuses
oil catch cans
balance shafts
60k is a long run
btw he was not making 350wtt for 48k, so throw that out the window


ill say it again, the motor is weak, the end

[SB.MS3]

well add to it then lenny...

[Jsoules]

So you need to back-up and explain... How would your car not produce more HP and Tq on a full build? Full build and stock or piggyback ECU, or full build and AEM stand alone type build?

Originally Posted by madvillain exactly, im not motivated to dump the money into building the motor because the car wont be any faster. if i could have the kind of power that we should from a gt30 and a built motor id happily drop the money right now.

[rodrigo]

i have my balance shaft still and no catch can ever.

other than exhaust manifold all other bolt ons are on the car. tune holds 20+... car knocks like a motherfucker and i spray 100% meth.

i expect NO BOOM

[MS6 Alan]

86k miles here.....

[rodrigo]

no shit? damn alan..u the grandaddy... whats the eta on your boom?

[MS6 Alan]

Originally Posted by Lenny127 no shit? damn alan..u the grandaddy... whats the eta on your boom?

I've been running on borrowed time for a while now.....................

[gsrtype1]

Originally Posted by Lenny127 i have my balance shaft still and no catch can ever. other than exhaust manifold all other bolt ons are on the car. tune holds 20+... car knocks like a motherfucker and i spray 100% meth. i expect NO BOOM

I noticed by spraying 80-90% meth by boost temps and knock went down significantly compared to 100% meth. If your getting a shit ton of knock you may want to try a little water. Not saying go 50/50 that sucks but by adding some water seemed to significantly help without hp loss...

[DCLXVI]

continuing onward with bsd and baffle in this case

[rodrigo]

i aint mixing nuttin.

100% meth = manliness = hair on your chest

[m4tic]

has anyone checked (or cared enough about this platform to check) individual cylinder temps?

[Lex]

Thestaplegunkid posted some detailed pics of a cracked piston that may have seized causing the blow. I am curious what is found out here.

Engines that fail at low load are either because they are fatigued from endured stress or because something goes wrong with the engine at that point causing it to seize. We've seen a lot of twisted rods and what appear to be seized motors. And I don't think the BSD is seizing these motors.

davesxx01 I apologize for coming off as rude.

I don't care how many blown motors I hear about im getting a tune to 24 psi tomorrow. I'm a skydiver so I do not live my life in fear. just because 9 out of 10 smokers die of lung cancer don't mean you will. every single car and part on the car has a diff molecule structure made from a diff pot of multin metal. I just hope mine is made from the good POT.

[Fobio]

Originally Posted by 18psiWhiteMS3 I don't care how many blown motors I hear about im getting a tune to 24 psi tomorrow. I'm a skydiver so I do not live my life in fear. just because 9 out of 10 smokers die of lung cancer don't mean you will. every single car and part on the car has a diff molecule structure made from a diff pot of multin metal. I just hope mine is made from the good POT.

I want some from that good pot too...

oh wait...we're talking engines here...er, what he said...

[RayRayBauder]

you may not care about how many blown motors you hear about but do you care about how many numbers you see on your dyno after you add meth, SST, and mani? lol.

Originally Posted by RayRayBauder you may not care about how many blown motors you hear about but do you care about how many numbers you see on your dyno after you add meth, SST, and mani? lol.

100% tru especially when im 6 Grand more invested for 30hp and 20tq over a friggen SRI with a tune

[Scatt Nasty]

Should have gone big turbo on stock internals. Lord knows its better for your engine. /sarcasm

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by 18psiWhiteMS3 I don't care how many blown motors I hear about im getting a tune to 24 psi tomorrow. I'm a skydiver so I do not live my life in fear. just because 9 out of 10 smokers die of lung cancer don't mean you will. every single car and part on the car has a diff molecule structure made from a diff pot of multin metal. I just hope mine is made from the good POT.

That's the spirit!

[wcm250f]

see threads like this is what worries me about getting this car.

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by Jsoules So you need to back-up and explain... How would your car not produce more HP and Tq on a full build? Full build and stock or piggyback ECU, or full build and AEM stand alone type build?

Your not in wonderland anymore once you joined this board. Shit that makes sense on other port injected platforms doesn't fly for 4cyl cars using DI.

Originally Posted by 18psiWhiteMS3 I don't care how many blown motors I hear about im getting a tune to 24 psi tomorrow. I'm a skydiver so I do not live my life in fear. just because 9 out of 10 smokers die of lung cancer don't mean you will. every single car and part on the car has a diff molecule structure made from a diff pot of multin metal. I just hope mine is made from the good POT.

Bold and Brazen just the way they like it. Mazda gods prefer their sacrifices this way cause the stubbornness and struggling makes the offering that much sweeter come time of boom.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Darksun280 Your not in wonderland anymore once you joined this board. Shit that makes sense on other port injected platforms doesn't fly for 4cyl cars using DI. Bold and Brazen. Mazda gods prefer their sacrifices this way cause the stubbornness and struggling makes offering that much sweeter come time of boom.

I know you keep an eye on this - how are the DI Cobalts doing?

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by Lex I know you keep an eye on this - how are the DI Cobalts doing?

They are stuck. Their fuel system is slightly better then us so they got a bit of a higher hp cap then we do with their smaller motor they are in the same leaky boat. GM has had DI tech longer then mazda though. Cobalt guys wised up though and once they get above 330 whp they started to concentrate more on power to weight, suspension, and traction and are more focused on their Et's then their dyno numbers for now. End of the day no car is fail if you have a quick ET.

In the car world we sometimes forget we try to make these crazy HP numbers so that we can run better times at the track. Our community is so preoccupied with blowing up and getting high hp dyno numbers we don't have enough gutted, slicked up soldiers going to well preped tracks trying to salvage our dignity. I am a culprit of this as well.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Darksun280 They are stuck. Their fuel system is slightly better then us so they got a bit off a higher hp cap then us but they are in the same leaky boat. They wised up though and once they get above 330 whp they started to concentrate more on power to weight, suspension, and traction and are more focuse don their Et's then their dyno numbers for now.

Any strange issues - leaking injectors, blowups?

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by Lex Any strange issues - leaking injectors, blowups?

And there is the kicker NO. Only guy who blew up was a guy like our Sock's who dyno'd like 450 on spray and blew up cause of a poor hack job tune while running down the 1/4. GM is smart though the bottom end is the same shit they made back in 99 or 00 for the super charged cobalt and that bottom end was tested to 500bhp stock so the cobalts don't go around blowing up shoping for groceries or getting getting milk while in a parking lot or down the block from their favorite tuner. Any way if you've noticed the way di mixes the fuel its hard to run lean from too much boost cause it can dump enough fuel on command to raise a Battle cruiser. Don't mean its a mix proper for making power though.

There are no real high milage high modded ones yet though so we have to wait for that. My friend over here with his GT3076 one though is quite content for now with his 380-390whp though he know at his cars current weight that's enough to put in work on the street or track with proper traction. They already have a wot feature and 2 step timed for slicks so he's fine.

[evo2ms3]

Man, everytime I start to feel comfortable with my car again, a thread like this pops up. Sorry to hear SLS, hope you'll be back up and running in something better soon.

[senor blanco ms3]

i will be going forged before this happens to me.

[rodrigo]

boxyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Scatt Nasty]

Originally Posted by Lenny127 boxyyyyyyyyyyyyy

god her voice is annoying.

[WVDPS643]

what exactly did you mod to have that result. Excused my noobness.

Originally Posted by WVDPS643 what exactly did you mod to have that result. Excused my noobness.

he did the mod no one should ever do. He did the "part throttle boost" mod