It finally happened

[SLS MS3]

Originally Posted by DaleNixon What Accessport map were you running SLS?

My own tune based off of a custom base map Christian made for me when he was here in January.

[robspeed3]

well after reading this thread, I have finally decide on what im going to do. Im going to wait and see if ford brings a new turbo charged focus in 2011 like rumors are going i really want another focus specially a rs verson. If this doesnt not happen or some sort of a turbo charge hatch focus comes out then im going to trade me speed in for it. If not then im going to just build me a forge motor thats all i can do now at this point!!

[11cruzito11]

SLS MS3,

Did you have the PCV fix from PTP?

Just curious to know,

[senor blanco ms3]

Originally Posted by 11cruzito11 SLS MS3, Did you have the PCV fix from PTP? Just curious to know,

no he didnt have the ptp fai...err "fix"

[kwsmithphoto]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch Mate, I'm not arguing the points I'm going to make with you since everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Regardless, I want to make state few things in general towards anyone. Are you an actual mechanical/engine engineer to make that assumption that this motor can't be driven up to 400HP?

No, I'm just keeping track of blown motors, and how they happened.

I highly doubt that you are. Shit, one forum on the whole internet and a few blown engines and majority (this part is my favorite) of people who aren't actual engine/mechanical engineers disproving this platform of being inccapabale of making 400WHP...I'm sorry but that's all that this is.

I didn't say it couldn't I was just saying that's not the point of OEM design. But ya, anything can get re-engineered if you throw enough money at it.

My friends whole motor build for his 06 WRX is roughly 15K... and he's building the motor first- the way it should be done.

And that illustrates my point, thank you. I paid $25K for a whole car, and your friend is sinking $15K to make a similarly priced (new) go faster. That's $40K. If I had that kind of coin I'd have bought a different car than an MS3, or WRX.

Unfortunately, here we have a brand new platform and people right away think they're going to slap on nothing but bolt ons, load pre-loaded maps (that are meant for disaster) or get a bad costume tune or god knows what else and they're surprised when their shit blows.

Indeed, but keep in mind that some of them did nice work and spent a lot of money to keep it reliable, but still threw a rod.

To those who are worried about blowing their engines build your motor first. A 400+ MS3.... I dunno why you would want one.... first gear is useless even at 360HP.... Regardless, 330-360WHP on stock internals I think for the MS3 is enough.

I agree, but I think 330-360whp is a bit optimistic if you want a 100,000 mile engine that doesn't need constant fiddling with to keep running, pass smog checks, etc. It's also too much for a nose heavy FWD car, IMO, unless your only interest is straight line speed.

Fresh out the box, torque steer, under steer, and wheelspin are already a problem. The latter two have simple fixes, but torque steer was a compromise they made to keep the price down. Ford Europe seems to have solved it for the most part with a front suspension redesign, but we're all stuck with Mazda's answer, power limiting. And it doesn't work.

So ya, like I said, if all anyone cares about is doing import drag races, and don't care about warranties, have at it!! But if you want the whole car to be a good daily driver with very good performance, there's still a lot you can do, while keeping the car fun, reliable, comfortable, and covered by the powertrain warranty.

I love really powerful cars but seriously, a FWD car at this price point, is the wrong place to start. That was my point, and no disrespect intended for people who DO want a 400whp MS3, and are willing to spend what it takes to do it properly. Everyone needs a hobby.

[Lex]

SLS, please have the injectors tested since your car is already at the shop. This can be key in the diagnosis.

[djthom]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch Honestly, I said it before and I said it again, why are so many of you people surprised that this motor blows when you start modding it? His internals were stock with nothing but bolts on and to do as many miles as he did is quite impressive. This whole paranoia honestly is getting quite ridiculous. How many people are there with speed3 that DO NOT JOIN FORUMS? This is what happens when you slap bolts on and push the motor beyond it's tolerance... why is that so surprising still to some of you? If you don't want to blow and have this as your end result build your motor first before going the "bolt on" way. To the OP- you had a good long run. Heavily modded engine with 60 or some shit miles is pretty good. Build that shit!

I think the whole hub bub about blown motors and why people are reacting this way is because of the situation these motors let go at. they are blowing at partial throttle not WOT like you would expect...

[spnkr21]

Subies usually go between first and second

[Lex]

SLS any news on the teardown?

[Lex]

Bump for updates.

[SLS MS3]

My bad, haven't been on the forum in forever. I'll do a writeup of the teardown and post some pics and such soon.

[Lex]

Good to see you're around. What's the quick and dirty of what went down?

[SLS MS3]

Cylinder 3 Rod twisted/shattered and put holes in the block. Doesn't seem to be any head damage other than 2 bent valves.

[Lex]

Can you grab some pics of the piston crown and sideskirt that are intact?

Can you also get some pictures of the rod bearings?

I am suspecting the rod was bent prior to it actually letting go as usual.

Any hard driving or issues just prior to the event? Any root cause analysis done?

[JefeSpeed]

No blown motors in Utah as far as I know.

[Doc]

WTF..

[kwsmithphoto]

Mormon's don't blow anything.

PS: That was a joke, for those of you who might be lacking a grasp of the utterly obvious.

PPS: The PS above was also a joke. Don't hate.

[Radioactiveman]

Originally Posted by kwsmithphoto Mormon's don't blow anything. PS: That was a joke, for those of you who might be lacking a grasp of the utterly obvious. PPS: The PS above was also a joke. Don't hate.

jokes are funny when in true joke form.

ha ha.

Mormans dont blow anything cuz we build it right the first time... he he

as for the other type of blow, it is up to your wife, good luck finding one that does.... he he, "younglings, so optimistic".

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by JefeSpeed No blown motors in Utah as far as I know.

Have you ever heard of jumpingjackson?

[Lex]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn Have you ever heard of jumpingjackson?

Is that a leprechaun?