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| Not Ranked : 0 score My car has never burned any oil I usually check it for the hec of it once a week. Alot of cars burn oil its not a big deal as long as you keep oil in there.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score I understand that, but if they normally don't burn any oil, obviously my oil is going somewhere. I don't notice any smoke but then again I haven't necessarily been looking for it. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score estimate the number of minutes you spend idling each day, add it up, check your oil at the end of the week and compare the idle time to your estimated oil loss - see if there isn't a correlation and just look at your plugs - at least this way you are sure if your motor is actually burning it or your oil or it's leaking out the turbo like the other 80% of ms3 owners
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| Not Ranked : 0 score about half a quart between 5k oil changes. 5w30 motorcraft with a guart of royal purple. i just installed occ and during that enjoyable process i had to unhook and move the lower FMIC pipe and had oil in there, maybe a table spoon full. I need to check my TB for carbon with 24k miles on 08.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Ugh jesus christ am I gonna have to put the intake box back on and drag the damn thing down for warranty work? Son of a bitch. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score i never lose any oil either. 1qt/1k miles is a lot. You got a rotory in there!? |
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Well I wrote down the mileage when I last added oil. Gonna check it every week now and see how much it's burning. I know I've added oil twice since the last oil change and I don't think it's been anymore than 4k miles, maybe even less. Not sure if mazda is gonna see this as a problem however. |
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Is their noticeable white smoke behind the car in this case? I've seen all the talk about the turbo's but never really gave it much thought. I know a lot of people claiming to get the smoke after removing cats, but what about beforehand? |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score the root of the problem is a pcv issue that causes oil to not drain from the turbo - over-pressurizing the center section, causing the oil to leak out the seals into the exhaust - Mazda has a online tsb on it - MTOL - 5505 - google it - modifying your exhaust just shows the problem better - a large number of vehicles have the issue - stock or not - my dealer told me he had replaced over 10 when he did mine & all i had was a cbe & sri at the time
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score He replaced the PCV valve? I thought some dealers didn't even have a part number for the new one yet? |
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Ahh ok. Well I just checked last night and it was definitely 2 quarts in just under 4k miles. FML |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score lets not make them correlations just yet please , i burn 1 qt for every 3k miles and no boom with 63k miles...and ive been burning at this rate since 35-40k miles there is a big difference between burning oil and oil feeding around through the pcv system and caking up everywhere, be careful what u guys read and how you interpret it. usual burning of oil is caused by either worn valve guides (which I doubt I have with 63k miles) and worn the fuck out rings (which i most certainly believe I do have). in this car alot of you guys experience oil creeping around everywhere from intake track, pcv system etc and caking up and obviously not returning to the pan upon shut down. soooo..... determine where your oil is going before you make claims/assumptions in my case...do the math. I have 63k miles every 3 k I'll drop a qt. .... been like this since 35k miles. ..... i assure u I dont have 9qts caked up anywhere.
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Lenny it's funny you mention oil creeping around. When I did my last oil change I put in 5 1/2 qts, 5w 30. I made everything drain out for a good 1/2 hour. Filled her up checked oil and was fine. Yesterday I checked and the oil level was above max (yes it was on level ground)...so Obviously oil pools somewhere.....interesting.. Sorry to threadjack OP
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Alright well I just checked the oil again today. Been about 600 miles since the last quart and it's already 1/2 a quart low. I also started it up ans watched the exhaust. Besides the normal water vapor coming out in the beginning there wasn't any smoke to speak of. There's also no oil on the ground where I park regularly. I don't know where it's going. Maybe I should get a downpipe and see what happens? lol |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I used to burn oil running mobil 1 or penzoil 5w-30. I just recently made the switch to Rotella 5w=40. I haven't burned a drop of oil since. Knock on wood. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I have 28.5k miles and change every 5k. I have never observed any loss and I check it about every 1k miles. Good ole WalMart SuperTech 5w-30 syn.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I'm at 27000 miles. I use 5w-30 synthetic. Change every 3000 miles. I check oil every time I re-fuel. I have no leaks, loss of oil between changes or smoking. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score mine doesnt burn a drop,or loose any between changes,about every 3000,broke it in with the drive hard method |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score same broke in hard. actually raced a car on the way home from the dealer with 25 miles on it. changed the oil at 500 to cast full syn 10w 30. changed every 2500 and fully bolted by 4k. never burned, smoked or had any oil loss. about to hit 17k after 19 months of ownership |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I've never noticed a change in oil level, nor any other symptoms that would indicate that my MS6 burns oil. I've just past the 60k mark, and even after tracking my MS6 (total of 2hrs at like 5,500RPM) I am surprised that it does not burn oil. I'm just going to reiterate what someone mentioned earlier: find out where the oil is going.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Who in their right minds changes their synthetic oil every 2500 miles. What a waste of time, oil and money. Anywho, I also broke my car in fast and hard. |
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Lol who is this? And yes I dunno. I've been trying to pay attention to smoke. I never see any on the ground, but maybe I have to pull the stupid fairing thing and see what's up. Maybe pull the intake too and see if there's anything in there. |
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