HPFP - is it really needed?

[thecaptain]

Is it really necessary for a HPFP with just CAI, TBE, TIP, and Cobb stage 2?

Searching the boards gives mixed answers.

[doubleflusher]

[Sid3wayS]

Na bro its not needed... you dont have enough mods. Disregard every other thread on this. Go zoom zoom...

[Mchart]

Mixed answers? Seriously?

Full retard son.

[Pendarus]

Direct quote from AccessPORT documentation found here...

http://accessecu.com/support/docs/su...%20Support.pdf

"This also means that no Stage2 (S2) calibrations will be
created using the stock CDFP unless users want to have boost limited to ~14psi."

So yes it is necessary if you want your shit to work properly on COBB stage 2 (I.E. have enough fuel to not fuck your shit up) and not be neutered to 14 psi.

This took all of 2 minutes to locate...search moar/better.

Edit: Sorry this info is for Gen2 stuff, but it applies to Gen1 also.

[Ferg]

Seriously?!



















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[tooslow10]

guess he doesn't know if u just get bigger fuses and relays it gives the in tank pump more juice and flows more fuel...duh...way cheaper than internals...

please don't have a genpu...please don't have a genpu...

[Captain KR]

OP first post and it is a FAIL! He is going to have a bright future here.

[AegisKlein]

I love this place! It's posts like this that keep me coming back.

[Jake5713]

YES IT IS
dumbass


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[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Search gave you mixed results in regard to a fully bolted car minus fmic needing a fuel pump? Bullshit

[adrager622]

I don't think you searched at all. Anyone who has removed a cat on a stage 2 tune (whether it be DP or TP) has done FP internals. Anyone that hasn't that is claiming their car to run fine is either bullshitting or waiting for some FAIL to occur. Just get the internals, don't ask about them. Just get, install, be done with it. You'll thank yourself later and prevent yourself from further FAIL threads like the one you started.

[2011speed]

Wtf is a hpfp ? Ricer

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[trf5000]

If I have sex with a hooker, do I need to wear a condom?

[redmnsterut]

not necessary to get HPFP, save that money buy a MBC and crank that shit , go find some honda's and race

[zpele]

[tooslow10]

Originally Posted by trf5000 If I have sex with a hooker, do I need to wear a condom?

geez...u didn't search either did u? of course u don't need one..that's page 22 in abilor's tuning guide..

[BigJimMs3]

........ Fucking Ricer....

[JLee1469]

Originally Posted by Mchart Mixed answers? Seriously? Full retard son.

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[deadlandxtreme]

Not needed.

[captain slow]

WTF is this shit? Seriously OP, WTF??? I hope for troll cuz I can't stand to think a human can be this ignorant.


"Searching gave me mixed results" .....FUCK

[neofandango]

Personally I have the Mods listed below. Myself I would not go with a stage 2 without a HPFP upgrade. That is my next purchase then will move to a stage 2. I am already seeing 1600s for Fuel Pressure and on WOT I have seen it go to 1400s for a blink of an eye. I am taking it a little easier until I get the internals upgrade. If you want to kill your car, Skip the HPFP. If you want to do it correct and feel comfortable with driving your car like it was ment to be, do it right. Upgrade your FP.

[MZR165]

Originally Posted by trf5000 If I have sex with a hooker, do I need to wear a condom?

Not if she say's that she's clean...

[thecaptain]

Not sure why everyone on here is a dick? Look around your own forums, you will see some people saying no, some saying yes.

Thanks assholes.

Originally Posted by neofandango Personally I have the Mods listed below. Myself I would not go with a stage 2 without a HPFP upgrade. That is my next purchase then will move to a stage 2. I am already seeing 1600s for Fuel Pressure and on WOT I have seen it go to 1400s for a blink of an eye. I am taking it a little easier until I get the internals upgrade. If you want to kill your car, Skip the HPFP. If you want to do it correct and feel comfortable with driving your car like it was ment to be, do it right. Upgrade your FP.

Thanks for actually providing useful info... One thing this forum seriously lacks is actual data from mods. It's hard to see if a HPFP is really needed without data to look at. I'll be sure to get one then.

[Don06speed6]

Take some logs, if FP drops below 1600ish psi you need internals. You don't HAVE to get internals. I ran mine, bolted minus fmic with a catless dp for over a year without internals. It is not recommended to follow my lead, but it is possible to do.

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[TexasSpeed3]

the yes's are sarcasm dumbass. this is the interwebs grow thicker skin

[Bucker]

Shut the fuck up, no one is this retarded...

[Captain KR]

Originally Posted by thecaptain Not sure why everyone on here is a dick? Look around your own forums, you will see some people saying no, some saying yes. Thanks assholes. Thanks for actually providing useful info... One thing this forum seriously lacks is actual data from mods. It's hard to see if a HPFP is really needed without data to look at. I'll be sure to get one then.

Ok well if your so fucking smart go try it and see how it works out for you and when you blow your shit up I will be the first one laughing at you and reminding you of this thread you started.

[MSFer87]

Having a TBE on your car means you have a turboback exhaust which means you no longer are running a stock downpipe. If this is the case your stock computer will already compromise for the added power by adding more fuel. So you need a AP to monitor your FP and obviously a FP for the added fuel.

[Don06speed6]

I might be going out on a limb here with this guy, but he did say he has a "Cobb Stage 2" I'm thinking he's running an OTS map...just my .02

[TRex]

this is what is killing mazdaspeedforums


being nice to fucking brown noob fuck sticks has caused shitty threads to hang around causing more noob fuck sticks to say they are getting mixed answers from searchs


fuck!

[Rich-PMS]

You can get KMD internals in my group buy for $315 shipped. Check the thread I started

[06Speed6]

Holy balls guys lol!

There actually are mixed answeres on this forum, 99% of the pros will tell you that you 100% need a hpfp upgrade, 33% of the noobs will tell you that it wont blow up 50% of the time and the other 67% of the noobs will tell you that they blew up and they are going to make a thread about their dealer voiding their warranty and how they dont deserve that.

We need to make a noob faq post

[SarcasticOne]

heh, i've got the australia version
TMIC/SRI/DP/TIP
puts down 275hp and 310tq at the wheels on stock tune
fuel pressures are sitting ~1500-1600psi on 16psi of boost
in desperate need of a custom tune, but used to run hypertech @ 18-19psi with no fuelling issues
log your fuel pressures, if they're dropping, get a HPFP, if not, dont bother...

[captain slow]

Originally Posted by thecaptain Not sure why everyone on here is a dick? Look around your own forums, you will see some people saying no, some saying yes. Thanks assholes.

People are being dicks cuz you suck at reading comprehension. And threads like this will confuse more noobs causing more of these fail threads. There aren't mixed results. There are people that have hpfp internals with dp(95%) and there are people that don't(5%). Those who don't can possibly get away with it for a while, but need to monitor fuel pressure like a hawk. So they must constantly worry about fuel pressure. What fun is that? But for a little over $300 why wouldn't you buy that insurance for your car?

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[AegisKlein]

It's not that we are haters, it's that you are too damn lazy to do the research yourself.

If you researched like you say you have and found 'mixed results' in previous threads, then did you really think that starting another thread on the same topic would provide anything different.

Again, Laziness. Do your research and make a decsion. The outcome will look something like this:

Conservative - It would be safe to install a HPFP prior to a Stage 2 tune.
Moderate- I could advance my tune to Stage 2 and watch my fuel pressure, then determine if I need a HPFP.
Cavalier - Tune to Stage 2 and see what happens.
Lazy - Let me just ask MSF

Seriously, please don't waste our time or server space.

[smakdown61]

I'm running an older cobb stage 2 tune with sri, tip, and tp. On stock pump and never dropped below 1600 psi. I think its the full downpipe that usually puts it over the edge.

[captain slow]

Aren't you not supposed to switch to stage 2 without a dp?

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[TRex]

Some say test pipe

[TexasSpeed3]

if you read the ap it says either one of the stock 2 cats can be removed or replaced with a high flow cat to run stage 2