im done freakin out
 

im done freakin out cause of all the bullshit speculations out there.
out of 15,000 cars, we got 40ish blown engines.
im sure a couple blew cause of manufacture defect.... that shit happens. i know cause i work in a warranty dept. but im willing to bet that most of them were heavilly modded, ragged out, and god knows what else.

sure, im reading slight partial throttle knock, just like the rest of you, but since no one really knows what it means or why its happening, i aint gonna freak out about it no more.

truth is, im lovin my speed 3. best car ive ever owned. light mods, yeah, but i aint hardcore so i aint gonna sweat it. if it blows, it blows. all i can do is drive it the way it was meant to be driven, maintain it like im supposed to, and not be an idiot. i really dont believe that i must go WOT if i break 3k rpms, otherwise......... hell with that. im not gonna go 70mph all the time so i can stay below 2.8 rpms in 6th cause my engine will blow up if i cruise at 3k rpms. think about it...... 15,000 cars out there. you think no one drives this way?

i guess this stems from all the threads speculating that my engine is about to blow at any time. i was following those threads, but then realized the same guy writing this shit is the same guy trying to sell me the magic 'fix' for it. not only that, but this is the 3rd or 4th magic fix! will it ever end? i dont think so.

anyway, to round this out, im just gonna say im gonna enjoy the car just like i planned on when i bought it. i suggest everyone out there do the same.

if i never discovered some of the threads on this forum, ida never known. cause driving this car is fun as hell!

sorry for the ramble. had to get it off my chest. unhealthy to hold shit in, ya know.

09 MGM Mazdaspeed 3 GT FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

think about all the cx7's, ms6s, and ms3s on the road.... and then just think about the 3 years these suckers have been out there.

wed know by now if cruise control was blowing motors...lol

true freakin dat. for all of u out there who are now paranoid that ur motor is going to blow... my buddy has an 07 speed3 that he has heavily modded and he drives that thing like a rental 24/7. it hasnt been pro tuned and he runs wrong maps thru his accessport... ones that dont match the fuel or mods he uses. his car has just over 30k miles on it and the only big problems he has had have been tranny issues but those were his fault. take a deep breath and relax. where there is anything mechanical there is chance for failure so a few here and there will go... just like anything else. as far as mass explosion.... dont worry about it. sorry if ur one of the unlucky ones

Your motor's gonna blow now. You shouldn't have said anything.

I'm done freakin out too. Traded mine in. I'm missing how the car could always taunt me to go WOT. Kind of like hanging out with a friend who has Bipolar disorder. Entertaining, but you just know something bad is going to happen eventually.
Now, I just cruise.

i want a build engine

I'm sure there are some that have blown that are owned by people that aren't on the internet forums that would add to the "40" some odd confirmed kills here, but I agree that the number is probably still small compared to the amount of MZR powered vehicles there are on the road.

You guys are all wrong. Havent you been reading the threads? PTP told us why. Haha. His sales tactics amuse me.

My motor wont blow for one simple reason. My compression tests fail. My rings can't hold enough pressure to bend a rod. Haha

built?? no?

this is a flaw as recently pointed out by Lex... and heavily discussed by us for years with.....

direct injection.

everybody relax. cc's are NOT the ultimate cure. meth and secondary port injection kits are:) im somewhat joking... but truly. i believe that once we start putting fuel in behind the valves as well as in the cylinder we wont have any more problems. lexus did this hybrid setup with the 3.5l IS/ GS motors for a variety of reasons...this being one of them.

the PI on the lexus motor does ALOT of the fueling in partial throttle conditions. its only WOT where the lexus motor goes full DI, think about that.... they did it for sfety... we'll do it for power and gain safety in one full swoop.
i'll be interested to see if wider arrays of oem direct injection applications start incorporating hybrid systems as more r/d comes out. if they dont it will probably be because of cost, and cost alone.

this is pure randy/palerider speculation out my ass after doing some research and discussing it with "a birdie".

i just hit 36k on my 07 ms3, my mods are intake, bpv, mm,TT, test pipe and resonators deleted. I have had no problems with my car and it still runs good for how hard i beat on it at times.

MGM MS3 FTW.

if my motor blows, big deal. thats why i have a warranty. i take care of her very well and b/c of that she likes me to beat the piss out of her. thats our dirty little secret and i wont change up...iaint scerred

I love you randy. You crack me up. I PM'd you about 11 months ago about building a car with me and splitting the costs making it a fun track car. I don't know if you remember. I cc'd myself that PM. I basically said to make a secondary PI rail. It was before you wanted to give up on DI though. Hopefully it works for ya. I just find it funny. We live we learn. Imagine how much money you would have saved if we had gone with the idea back then. Being a pioneer blows but it sure is fun.

Warranty FTW!!! mine blew cause i drove it like it was a rental too lmao.. after using royal purple it blew.. had tbe. intake, bov, and cobb ap.. But I know a manager at mazda so he warrantied me with no questions asked.. sucks alot of people are blowing tho

thats the thing. the number of people blowing seems very slow.

lol. definitely. look at the time that was posted. i must have still been in a haze from last night. how's your car running lenny?

well philly in a week it will run better than yours...hows that grab ya?

oh so i can be fully bolted and run the shit out of my car and i wont blow. thanks member with a hundred posts. ill go ahead an order that 35r now.

your welcome. knock yourself out.

all heed ptp's warning! he art thou chosen son of the wild child...

How the fuck did that happen? Just curious.

Not sure. Bought the car with 32000 miles. Did a compression test because my temps run hot and i find ALOT of oil in my intake and intercooler. #s sucked. Went to mazda. They claimed 190 across all 4. I know they are full of shit. Regional comes. I get voided for nitrous (pretty sure i dont have nitrous) and regional gets 30pts lower than the dealer got. I have all the paperwork. A well known attorney for a brother. So when the time comes maybe i'll do something like a demand letter. Aside from that i'll probably just build the motor myself.

Thank You

i am 100% fine with saying... you were right on that one..lol i wish i had gone down that road a year ago. but oh well. leve and learn. i have regrets but i also have learned alot by taking the DI road.

if when my motor had blown and id taken it back to NC with mark and dcr then. just think about where we would be by now. mark riley was taking about PI back in 2007. and they could have accomplished shit in weeks that for others has taken months and years.

you nailed it then.... and i think the entire community will eventually get on board now that DCR is gonna explore this route as well

Thanks for the post OP.

I was feeling the same way after staying current with the forums and hearing the horror stories of people blowing motors, running out of fuel, knocking like crazy, and AFRs way off target.

I picked up a DH and I'm happy to report that everything is kosher. Fuel pressure is good, my stock BPV doesn't leak, AFRs look perfect, no knock whatsoever with how I drive my car. All the worries that I had are gone, which is a huge sigh of relief since blowing my motor would be a catastrophe financially if it were to happen and I was denied warranty.

It still may happen, IDK. But my mind is at ease knowing that I'm seeing good logs. I've enjoyed my car 100% more knowing that logs are good...the paranoia is gone and I can romp on her again knowing that, at least when it comes to the parameters that matter most, I'm not abusing my car to a significant degree.

You sir are correct, head down to any Mazda dealer and talk with the HD tech. I am willing to bet that they have seen 10 or more blown motors on the 2.3 DI motor. Not only that but ask them about the CX7.... just caught wind of one of those motors letting go here locally. A little bit of leg work to find out the real truth never hurt anyone.

What have I tried to sell? You might want to go back into that thread and see what I am pushing sales wise. When you do, I will be more then willing to correct my sales tactic.

I wish. Hey jhershorin, what are you doing to try and figure out why these motors are letting go? What R&D have you done? What are you going to share with the community either for free or charge them as a possible fix for the smoking turbos or the blown motors? All I can see is you running your mouth but doing nothing to help the Mazda community.

Its great to have people come in here and complain about a vendor trying to figure out the smoking turbos and blown motor issues. We are one of two motors that have been torn down before it vented the block, this gave us a rare oppritunity to see what caused it. I have decided to share this with you and try to figure out a way to fix it, and I get this from the members of this site. Wow, just wow.

I guess when I do figure something out I will charge 5x's what its worth or just never offer it to the community. Seems a bit childish but no more so the some of the posts in this thread.

To everyone that reads this, if you have a better idea as to why our motors blow... post up. Bring the facts to the table, show us your motor parts, show us the tear down, show everyone what you find. I am not going to say that we have found the problem 100% but we are tring to figure it out.

I guess if others had taken the time to try and figure it out that would be great, but no one that I can think of or find on the internet has addressed this or even posted on it, and I end up being the bad guy. FarK!

John. I commend you for your efforts. I follow your threads closely looking for developments. I am behind you when it comes to finding new solutions. With that aside - its all your "ground breaking threads", "omfgwtflol woot l33t" threads that "you all have to do this mod its the best mod for the car" and "mazda is fucking us on purpose" that are unnecessary. Titles like "This may lead us down a good road" or "i found out some new information" seem more relevant. Whether you are selling the items yet you are using "scare" tactics to sell parts that you will have in the future.

As for running my mouth - THIS IS A FUCKING FORUM - why do people vaginas bleed so easily.

Enter Glock23 who also has the forum name Illogic to groan me :) He's my bff4e?

Well then commend me, (you didn't start off by commending me in this thread now did you?) don't be one of those fourm idiots that calls BS with out any proof to back up their claims. Ground breaking threads? WTF, maybe you take the threads in a different light then others, maybe you need to look at the thread and examine how I am trying to come across vs how you think I am tring to come across. Is Mazda fucking us? Do you know for a fact that they are not? I can tell you that there are more people that have complaind about Mazda not covering their motor then those who have thanked them. Seems like a good ole fashion fuck to me, hmmm, maybe?

If I wanted to use "scare" tactics I would be pushing the parts much much more. I would be saying things like, "if you don't buy this your motor will blow". That is a scare tactic, so don't be afraid of the dark and come into the light so we can all share the info, vs not.

Thanks.

I talked about PI when this forum opened and got flammed for it several times. Now that is has been proven that we need it (I proved this several times as well) everyone is going to listen. Wow, must have missed that one. LOL!

I have written and deleted what I want to say a few times because it comes out to vulgar and that plays to your game too much.

I will leave it at this. Your presence on this forum (and A LOT of people feel this way) is that of a "billy mays" / "sham wow" mentality. Maybe it's your personality - maybe its the haters that make you try this approach. Who knows. I am weary to believe 99% of the world. So called specialists (aka Mazda Master Techs) have uttlerly blown my confidence in the "system" they call fixing cars (whether warranteed or not). No less online vendors who I will never meet face to face. There are a few types of people you will find here. "Noobs" who will hang on every word you post because without a solid knowledge everything you say really does portray expertise. "Haters" who are fanboys and will do whatever it takes to knock you down in the name of their favorite company. "Skeptics" like myself who just don't buy the bells and whistles and want to see something (not pictures of bent rods and being told hydrolocking on oil). And others.

John - although i don't think of you as a great business person - I value you because you are busting your ass and doing research on this platform. I wait to see what you will come up with because I have already modified my pcv system in my own way and may go with yours. Not because I believe all your hype about it but because I have felt it is crap since the day I bought the car.

In short - KEEP ON TRUCKING - not that you'll take anything i say as constructive (which i seriously was trying to be) but do your thing. Just stop the fireworks show and make power. Don't fluff. Don't give timelines. Just do your shit - show me / us it works - and stop trying to be so alpha (fighting with cameron who i know is REALLLLLLLLLLLY intelligent and knows his shit).

This is the last revision - I want to erase it and start over but I have done it to many times and get on tangents to much.

Do your thing. Stop being so confrontational. Just prove the haters wrong (maybe I am one) but regardless I hope you succeed because that means someone will.

Ya I am done. Blah. Hi glock23...i can haz your future daughters virginity?

To PTP, I asked the local head mazdaspeed service guy(also a friend of mine) how many blown motors in speed 3's, 6's or cx7's like you said to do and he told me they have only had 1 blown in a speed 3 due the owner modifying his turbo since 2007. If it werent for the mazdaspeed forums, I would have never heard of motor popping problems to begin with. (no offense to this forum of coarse)

There are 15+ Mazdaspeed dealers in NJ alone. Lets just say there are 250 Mazdaspeed dealers in the country. If 100 MS3's have blown motors, that is .4 cars per dealer or in other words, the majority of dealers out there probably haven't seen a blown motor. I'm sure some dealers may have gotten more blown motors to replace than others depending on the population and the amount of MS3's they have sold in the area, but there is a good chance that most of the dealers out there have not seen this problem, which doesn't help us much.

Understood, I will cut down the fireworks show and get to making parts. I am not here to prove anyone wrong (that would be easy) I here trying to help and make a living at the same time. As far as I can tell, no one (vendor or member) other then Whoosh has ever taken a look at fixing this issue. We are "trying" to help you guys, yes I get excited, yes I might become a little deffensive at times. Its the internet, take a little of what I say with a grain of salt.

With that said, thank you. I will keep on doing what we do and when I have a solution for the car, everyone will know. And if it doesn't work, everyone will know that as well.

There is one that we have not heard of, I would be willing to bet that he is not on the forums. Can we add that one to the list?

What I am getting at is we have XXXXX number of memebers, of those maybe 25% of them own the car, out of them we have XX number of blown motors. Of all the blown motors we have 2 or 3 maybe that have been torn down before they created so much damage that you couldn't tell what happened to them. I fall into this 2 or 3 persons. We had the oppritunity to tear into a motor before it spilled all its oil and coolant over the ground. With that we have come to the conclution something is hydrolocking the motors. We just have to find out how its getting into the motor.

Never thought about it that way. Between the 3 local dealers we have here in the Seattle area, there has to be around 10 blown motors total now. I own 2 of them and one of our customers owns the other one. The other 7, who knows. I just caught wind of a CX7 putting a rod through the motor this week or last. I have not had a chance to head down to the dealer and talk with the tech but it was one of the middle cly that let go, either number 2 or 3. I will see what I can dig up on this.

John, you're in Seattle. I might swing by and see what you're up to if you have a shop with open doors. I am just over the border.

I have not heard of any blown speeds locally. I know one guy has a 2nd smoking turbo with 60+k miles on his speed fully bolted.

Always welcome to open our doors to locals. We don't have much that we are working with but your always welcome to swing on by.

The problem is that if you cry wolf enough times, when the wolf is there, nobody will come running anymore....

Off topic.
You have PM.
I'd like to get that revised mount back asap.

Thanks

Checking the info you sent me, PM sent. Thanks.