Just installed PTP internals..and problem

[Fagwagon]

maybe they should figure out how to break in the internals BEFORE they send them out promising OODLES AND OODLES of extra fuel pressure

Originally Posted by FreeFlyFreak My girlfriend loves it when my part is internal, especially when it has tight tolerances. In fact tight tolerances are essential for it to work. Sometimes when it is cold my internals fail to meet the girlfriends QC........ of course that is when I recommend the "break in procedure" In any event I have yet to encounter seizure....... although sometimes it looks like she is having one...... The trick is adequate lubrication, prior to inserting the part internally. Then your internal part can pump away for as long as you like without losing pressure. That is all. FFF

thanks for the simile and shit but it doesnt help...i installed them correctly. its really not a hard procedure.

[Eazy]

Call the office number (253-277-3843), they don't sit around waiting for email to come in.

I find it funny that out of all the pumps PTP has sold, you get a couple people who have problems and all the sudden his product is shit? LOL.

[FreeFlyFreak]

Man!

OP and Moderators apparently have no sense of humor FTL

[Fagwagon]

Originally Posted by Eazy Call the office number (253-277-3843), they don't sit around waiting for email to come in. I find it funny that out of all the pumps PTP has sold, you get a couple people who have problems and all the sudden his product is shit? LOL.

i never called the product "shit" ...the product worked great till it started sticking... as far as calling them, i will tomorrow on my break i was too busy today.

Originally Posted by FreeFlyFreak Man! OP and Moderators apparently have no sense of humor FTL

i found it humorous, im just not in the mood...did it get deleted?

[aaronc7]

this is an ant eater free zone, sorry

[FreeFlyFreak]

Originally Posted by Fagwagon i never called the product "shit" ...the product worked great till it started sticking... as far as calling them, i will tomorrow on my break i was too busy today. i found it humorous, im just not in the mood...did it get deleted?

Deleted.
I wouldnt be in the mood either if I were you.
Im sure John will send you some more internals to "break in"

But Eazy often appears to be Ptp sponsored Fan Boy, whether he is or not, don't know.

But apparently puts words in your mouth....... and appears not to be able to count the number of people who have had sticking problems, with the internals..........
and someone has no sense of humor.

JMHO!

[phillyb]

^^^^ screenshotted before mod edit.
lol

[Fagwagon]

Originally Posted by FreeFlyFreak Deleted. I wouldnt be in the mood either if I were you. Im sure John will send you some more to "break in" But Eazy often appears to be Ptp sponsored Fan Boy, whether he is or not, don't know. But apparently puts words in your mouth....... and appears not to be able to count the number of people who have had sticking problems, with the internals.......... and someone has no sense of humor. JMHO!

well considering on the site it says backordered again i doubt the internals will be ready for him to exchange..

[madvillain]

I've bashed John at PTP in the past, but I'm done with that shit. BUT, i can say that there have been too many pump "failures" or "seizes" for me, if I were in the market for one. The idea of 'breaking in' a fuel pump doesn't really make sense to me, especially since it was not required on any of the kits that have been offered up to this point.

I know it was stated in the thread that this break in procedure was needed because of the way that John manufactured these, which is fine. BUT, I think you guys are fucking crazy for driving around the block at 5,000rpm hitting fuel pressures of 50psi, that is just not normal and could be very costly.

[phillyb]

for what it's worth, i drove around with 50psi for a few weeks.
when you get to 50psi, your high pressure fuel pump is seized. 50 psi is what the in-tank pump is doing.
the one in the engine bay isn't doing shit.
for those of you that see this blip of 50psi for a second or two, that's "normal" in john's eyes.
you didn't break them in properly.
or whatever.
and whatever.
50psi of fuel sucks.

[Fagwagon]

Originally Posted by madvillain I've bashed John at PTP in the past, but I'm done with that shit. BUT, i can say that there have been too many pump "failures" or "seizes" for me, if I were in the market for one. The idea of 'breaking in' a fuel pump doesn't really make sense to me, especially since it was not required on any of the kits that have been offered up to this point. I know it was stated in the thread that this break in procedure was needed because of the way that John manufactured these, which is fine. BUT, I think you guys are fucking crazy for driving around the block at 5,000rpm hitting fuel pressures of 50psi, that is just not normal and could be very costly.

oh i couldnt imagine driving around for more than a split second at 50psi...im experiencing blips...

Originally Posted by phillyb for what it's worth, i drove around with 50psi for a few weeks. when you get to 50psi, your high pressure fuel pump is seized. 50 psi is what the in-tank pump is doing. the one in the engine bay isn't doing shit. for those of you that see this blip of 50psi for a second or two, that's "normal" in john's eyes. you didn't break them in properly. or whatever. and whatever. 50psi of fuel sucks.

their break in procedure is pretty damn vague on the instructions as well. If i did something wrong by not doing the 1g-5g ricer drive for the first 100 i want to know. EAZY, how EXACTLY did you "break it in"?

[2007speed3]

FagWagon you and me are in the same boat.

Im on my second PUMP, i wish my car wasnt 1300 miles away.

I honestly want my money back, i can understand the first pump had an issue. But the second preassembled pump too thats BS...

but i suppose you get what you pay for, you live and learn.

[felt]

So which one do you want to get? KMD or CP-E?

[Fagwagon]

Originally Posted by 2007speed3 FagWagon you and me are in the same boat. Im on my second PUMP, i wish my car wasnt 1300 miles away. I honestly want my money back, i can understand the first pump had an issue. But the second preassembled pump too thats BS... but i suppose you get what you pay for, you live and learn.

well...its not exactly a cheap part...so i would expect more...im not bashing them whatsoever i just want answers,

i want to know if im wasting my time trying to break this pump in because my gt3076 should be here oh in about 2 weeks...and i dont want this thing siezing up when i am at WOT

[2007speed3]

Originally Posted by Fagwagon well...its not exactly a cheap part...so i would expect more...im not bashing them whatsoever i just want answers, i want to know if im wasting my time trying to break this pump in because my gt3076 should be here oh in about 2 weeks...and i dont want this thing siezing up when i am at WOT

your right its not a cheap part but when compaired to CPE its "reasonably priced".

I buy a cpe and out of the box i can go WOT all i want.

[Fagwagon]

Originally Posted by 2007speed3 your right its not a cheap part but when compaired to CPE its "reasonably priced". I buy a cpe and out of the box i can go WOT all i want.

If he will refund my money i would go ahead and get the cpe depending on how much of a deal i can get.

[turd burglar]

i love my mr lil guy fuel pump. that dude needs to start sellin them again!

[rodrigo]

i dont think ptp s product is shit at all, so far the greater percentage of the customers rave about them so obviously its a good product.

i think the part that might irritate some customers is that failures get always attributed to user error or "you must have done something wrong".....

i mean shit man, we know that a small % age of the pumps ANYONE MAKES will take a shit, lets be hobnest about it and just say "well, sorry u got the bad one , let me take care of that for u "

(which i hope is what the vendor does anyways)


THE END.

[2007speed3]

your right Lenny, but i got 2 bad ones.

[rodrigo]

Originally Posted by 2007speed3 your right Lenny, but i got 2 bad ones.

and to me dude if i was the vendor i would give u a rebate for your troubles, but thats me.

[madvillain]

I also agree with Lenny, but I still think somethings wrong here..

To me, in comparison to everything else, the Cp-e pump is worth it. It's expensive but in comparison to the other options on the market right now it's not a bad option.

By the way, I emailed Jon (Mrlilguy) and told him to make his pumps again a few weeks ago hahah.. I don't think that's going to happen..

[phillyb]

hopefully, if jon ever does that, he will go back to mrlilguy, NOT CARPE DIEM INDUSTRIES

[RayRayBauder]

Originally Posted by FreeFlyFreak But Eazy often appears to be Ptp sponsored Fan Boy, whether he is or not, don't know.

there's not doubt about it, he is.

[phillyb]

eazy is still a mod?
one would think being that far into bed with john, one shouldn't be a moderator

[bykeryder4life]

reading this thread reminds me of exactly what those cdi internals did on my car, would run fine for a while, then cut real bad, then be fine, then cut........etc etc. After so long those cuts became more and more frequent and then they took a shit. Id say take the ptp ones out and get a new set.

[xcoldricex]

on mrliliguy's fuel pump too. not one issue, glad i got in before the shit storm that followed.

[madvillain]

Haha mee too, I've had the mrlilguy pump for like 2 years now and no problems what-so-ever. Still see 1700psi at very light throttle and over 2,000psi at wot. No "break in" shit either

[turd burglar]

yup no break ins and i touch on 2100 at wot

[Fagwagon]

OH you guys are so cool with your lil guy pumps...

[xcoldricex]

don't be mad


i just find it funny that someone got it right really early on for a price that's cheaper than cp-e, then all this fail happens and no one can do it reliably anymore besides cp-e.

[Fagwagon]

Im not mad...i drove normally this morning, prolly got into boost a few times but nothing crazy...it didnt stick at all. Im gonna do some pulls after work on the way to school to see what happens.

[xcoldricex]

haha i was joking. hope it works out for you. a friend here probably changed out his fuel pump 6 times because of the whole internal fiasco.

[madvillain]

Originally Posted by Fagwagon OH you guys are so cool with your lil guy pumps...

YES, yes we are.

[Fagwagon]

so i talked to john, after it happend again, while actually putting some load on the motor, he told me to go ahead and send them in and he will send me a new one out. Apparently there was one other failed set out of this batch he said.

[phillyb]

on the site he says two weeks from march 15, did he mention when he could send you some more?

[Fagwagon]

he said next thursday i think.

[Blackspeed]

Im actually sending my stock pump in to get internals put in because the pre assembled pump i bought has a broken electrical connection, and also some gashes and some hammer marks (see sig) he told me 2 weeks before he gets them in (last week).

I get to do another install AND break in. FML

[FreeFlyFreak]

Originally Posted by Blackspeed the pre assembled pump i bought has a broken electrical connection, and also some gashes and some hammer marks (see sig)

You have to be kidding..........
if not..............FTL.

[prenedo]

Too bad mazda isn't in the HP CDFP biz, there pumps seem to work ok for what they were designed for. I dread the day (probably pretty fucking soon too) that I gotta do this mod. Shouldn't have to keep your fingers crossed, ESPECIALLY with a fucking fuel pump; I mean as much as engines like air, I think a lil fuel puts a smile on their face also.... Good luck OP

[Fagwagon]

I really think that their internals would be a lot better if they made some type of rig to break them in prior to them shipping. It probably wouldnt be too hard to do and would save their customers some piece of mind and a LOT of time.