Mazdaspeed 3/6 UOA Results

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Pete .... I'm due for a change in about 1k miles, and I will have the oil analyzed, and will post the results if you don't mind. .... - Pete -

So, don't get yourself too worked up if you see a spike in lead - but do keep it on your radar.

If any further analyses turn up looking a little wacky, I'll post them up here.

- Pete -

[JEEBS]

So I just had my UOA done and I'm kind of concerned as to why such high levels of copper. Any ideas? It's my first time using Rotella and I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it.

[Nliiitend1]

Hmm, not a clue myself...

This reminds me though...I have a sample sitting on the shelf that I need to send in!

[div2]

On my 2007 I saw a spike in both Iron(46 ppm) and Copper(47 ppm) immediately after my VVT actuator was replaced(and yes the dealer did the oil fill and drain per the TSB). I'm currently running M1 5W-30 with an OCI of 7,500 miles; Iron averages 20 ppm while Copper remains at just 1 ppm. Having said all that, I don't think Rotella would cause the Copper number that you are seeing. I run T6 in my son's X3 2.5 and all wear metals remain at or below the universal averages- and that is using an OCI of 10,000 miles.

[JEEBS]

That's interesting. The car is 100% stock other than a SRI. I'll have to send my next result to see any changes, if any.

[daafisch]

Finally did one of these. At the time of the sample I was at 109k with 17 track days and 31 autox events.

[EvoFire]

Has anyone used Liqui Moly oils before? From my research they are made in Germany.

This stuff

There are many types, but the ones I'm looking at has the purple containers like the picture.

My mechanic says he specially imports this stuff and he can sell to me for cheap. The VW guys loves it, but I don't see many Mazda peeps running this. I'm still a bit from my next oil change so I want to do some research first.

[fredricktsang]

Thought I'd share my results. Been using Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 at 5k mi oil change intervals.

[daafisch]

Another one. Did this on a shorter interval. Also there weren't any autox events or track days on this one.

[makjur]

Changed oil after 5300ish miles and sent out my first sample
makes me happy

[Lex]

Hmm so are the guys using the T6 seeing more wear metals than the PP?

[mhebert2001]

Originally Posted by Lex Hmm so are the guys using the T6 seeing more wear metals than the PP?

Has anyone chimed in on this?

[RallySportDirect]

Great information, thank you everyone who posted up their oil reports. I have been using Castrol for a long time and wasn't sure what to use with my first oil change on the 3 but I'm going to give Pennzoil Ultra a go. I am going to do my best to add my oil reports to this thread in the future.

Tanner

[phate]

Here's my entire UOA history, with notes, from my MS3:

[cld12pk2go]

Just got back my first result:



I made the rookie UOA mistake of taking the sample with the engine cold, so I really don't know if the fuel dilution should be lower or not.

Either way the SuperTech 5w-30 fully synthetic doesn't appear to be doing too badly.

In a few months I will have the results with my current Rotella T6...

[RLam]

My first UOA. 2013 with 4000 miles on the odo at the time with 3k being on the current oil. Also, the last 500 miles on this oil was during my E-Tune.
@cld12pk2go; I also took my sample cold, and our fuel % looks close.

[cld12pk2go]

Originally Posted by RLam My first UOA. 2013 with 4000 miles on the odo at the time with 3k being on the current oil. Also, the last 500 miles on this oil was during my E-Tune. @cld12pk2go; I also took my sample cold, and our fuel % looks close.

Your viscosity at operating temp is about 40% higher than mine, which is exactly what I am looking for in going to the T6 (coupled with higher TBN values)....

[RLam]

Very true. Personally, I don't even use Supertech in my beater protege with 242k (I even run double intervals on my filters on this thing). lol. I like the rotella, but now that my local AutoZone started stocking Castrol European formula 0W30 I'm going to give that a whirl my next time around.

[phate]

Supertech 10W-40, from here: http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ps816401ae.png <-go there for build details, lol.

Note the short interval of 1,460 miles:


I will probably pull another sample within a week. I'll have close to 3,000 miles on it, then.

[RLam]

Originally Posted by phate Supertech 10W-40, from here: http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ps816401ae.png <-go there for build details, lol. Note the short interval of 1,460 miles I will probably pull another sample within a week. I'll have close to 3,000 miles on it, then.

Are you going to continue running this, or is it break in only? your motor seems to be tearing it up for only a short period.

[phate]

Originally Posted by RLam Are you going to continue running this, or is it break in only? your motor seems to be tearing it up for only a short period.

We'll see after this change. I just started making power on it, so it will be pretty telling. I had planned on going to a thicker synthetic, just haven't done it yet.

[RLam]

Not sure if you've heard all the rage of GC 0W30, but maybe give that a try. It acts thicker than it is weighted. Great on start-up and super stable under load/heat

[phate]

I need to get a pressure gauge working, really. I'm not sure if my bearing clearances would appreciate any thin oil, lol.

[RLam]

I suppose for a custom built motor that would matter.....le sigh at my ignorance of your sig.

[cld12pk2go]

Originally Posted by cld12pk2go Just got back my first result: I made the rookie UOA mistake of taking the sample with the engine cold, so I really don't know if the fuel dilution should be lower or not. Either way the SuperTech 5w-30 fully synthetic doesn't appear to be doing too badly. In a few months I will have the results with my current Rotella T6...

Here is my UOA with my Rotella T6:



This was mostly running ~E40 (~6 gal E85/tank).

Looks like the Blackstone tech had a sense of humor...lol

[Cataphract_40]

Blackstone rocks. That is all.

[Enki]

First ever UOA on RP 5-30 DEXOS 1 oil, in testing for potential fix on full E85 cars; only had 1k miles on it, so wasn't expecting anything major from it, but it doesn't hurt to have a baseline. Since I never meet mileage, I'll do the next oil test in 3 months or so.

[Enki]

New UOA after more than 6 months on the same oil. Unknown mileage, because I forgot to document it.

[08.5MS3]

Stock motor. K04. Fully bolted. 33% E85.

[Boostlee21]

Hello all, Im new to the site and I just bought my 1st MSP3 August of 2013 brand new 0miles. I let the dealer do the maintenance on my car the couple of times but I feel its time for me to do it myself. Ive been noticing that alot of people recommend the Shell Rotella T6 oil to use but isnt that for diesel engines plus I have always been a fan of mobil1 oil and filter but not to many people would agree and suggest the T6 or the Penzoil Plat.

[Werm]

all UOA has been on PP. Switched to T6 since last oil change.

[bzwyatt]

Were you racing more than normal?

[Werm]

Originally Posted by bzwyatt Were you racing more than normal?

probably more than most ppl here. It probably had 5 or 6 track days on the most recent oil analysis

[Enki]

That's before swapping to t6, right?

[Werm]

Originally Posted by Enki That's before swapping to t6, right?

correct

[div2]

This is my latest UOA; I've owned the car since new and I've run Mobil 1 5W-30 since the first oil change at 5,000 miles. I switched from a 5,000 mile to a 7,500 mile change interval at 69,000 miles and I switched to Mobil 1 5W-30 Extended performance at 114,700 miles.

[thatsmrgimp2u]

Pocket post.... Whoops

[div2]

Here is my latest UOA:

[Alucard93]

Hello everyone, I have a question for you guys, do you know what's is the best motor oil for my mazdaspeed6 2006?, the temperature of my country is around 20°C (68°F) and in this moment I'm using Royal Purple 10W30, thank you.

[MD1032]

This is the factory fill in my transmission. They put the wrong viscosity on the UOA (75W-85), this is a Gen2, so it's 75W-80. They said it looked OK in terms of wear metals. Hopefully that means the previous owner was gentle with the car.