My Speed3 Engine Explodes in HD Video!!
 

Got some film with my friends GoPro to see if I wanted to pick one up. 4th to 5th gear shift at WOT and BOOM I scattered parts all over the highway LIKE A BOSS!

Mods: TurboXS CAI, Inlet Pipe, TurboXS Downpipe & Racepipe, CP-E catback, HKS SSQV BOV, PTP Internals, Protune on AP. 19 PSI. 38K miles

Unlike most I will NOT blame the car and say it sucks blah blah. I beat the shit out of this little thing every weekend racing and driving it hard and it took it like a good little soldier. At 19 PSI the K04 is realistically out of efficiency and probably should have gone a long time ago. I'm leaning towards a built block and big turbo instead of stocking it out and trying to fight with the dealer. I was saving cash to build my 90 Supra so that project is cancelled but at least I have the money to fix this car.

I don't know if anyone has captured this on video before so hopefully you all enjoy this, I guess it will probably cost me about 6k to make haha.

I can't watch the video at work, but hopefully it lives up to my expectations.

Wow, that's all I can say. You didn't throw a rod, right? Looks like your turbo shatter into pieces and blew out of the exhaust-crazy shit.

Probably doesn't help that you are in cold ass Wisconsin. Glad you have a good attitude about it tho, you definitely understand the concept of "gotta pay to play". Our cars are such little temperamental bitches, you just never know what the fuck it's going to do at any given moment.

Looks like you turned the smoke screen on there..

Great job capturing that. Were you monitoring your fuel pressure or other parameters at the time off, or a few days before...

Its sad news but glad you got the funds to get that back up and running..
Awaiting close up pics of carnage.

I wasnt monitoring because my access port screen shit the bed and Cobb has it for repair right now.

it blew because you crossed the double white lines behind the white excursion (4:06)

The term Blow Big or Go Home, came to mind watching this vid...that was awesome.

Your turbo disintegrated...damn.

Glad you're rebuilding and staying here.

Keep us posted.

lawl at still passing people after you blew

:( at another blown speed3

Dude that was a lot more than just my turbo blowing up. That was the engine saying goodnight.

In for teardown analysis.

Did this necessarily have to be caused by ptp internals? I am curious to hear if OP did frequent data logging to monitor fp. I am kind of at the point where I am ready to start modding my GenPu (with cp-e pump) but I might just enjoy the car for what it is stock.

I dont know, I logged a couple months ago and had 2000+psi where it counted, but my access port took a shit and Cobb has had it for a few weeks now so nothing recent

Will have to watch later.

Did it make you want to get a gopro?

Haha The picture is good but the sound is a little scratchy.

Tune is what caused you to blow with the extreme low temps. You should have not been running that much boost at those temps.

Jwilkens88 and DJs car speak for themselves as properly tuned cars on stock blocks that have taken their share of abuse.

Lenny and my car are high mileage originals.. I keep my turbo at 20 psi. He is now BT, but he had quite a bit of miles on his car before going big turbo and its still alive.

Sucks she had to blow.. im curious what the AFR was and what the fuel pressure was at. Fuel pressure in these cars are notorious for dropping low in cold weather.

I hit 23-24 psi on the K04 during the warm months? Kinda starting to think I should back it down.

damn that sucks man. Glad u got the money to fix it. Im running 19psi and I better not blow cause I got no money to get a new block for it and its my only car.

Did u have any signs? vibrating clutch pedal? abnormal sounds? anything?
From the looks of it it wasnt the typical bent rod story for you though... probably too cold for that much boost. Keep us posted on rebuild and take pictures of the leftovers

When you shifted right before you blew you were coming out of 4th and into 5th correct?

Just wondering

yeah 4th to 5th. It's the same tune and mod setup as I ran all last winter, no idea why it decided to go today. It was just time I guess.

your car sounded sweet before the boom lol... but i think it's funny you were still passing people after you lost the engine

it sucks that it happened to you, but that has to be one of the best vids of a speed3.

what happened to my post on this thread?

I appreciate the honk at the end

I can already see the fags from 8thcivic fapping and talking shit over this video.

theyre probably saying their blowups are better

He must have had a DISI swap.

That guy makes me look like a pussy

1 less crx in the world though...

now cracks a noble heart.

good night sweet prince,

and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.

that is fucking crazy.

Did you go pick up the pieces? Make a FS thread on 247:

Stock turbo, used. May have a bent fin, some assembly required.

Sorry to hear, good luck with the build! (In for pics)

Damn sorry for the loss. Awesome you captured it though. I wish we could have heard you when it blew though. I can only imagine how many fcks were dropping in there.

Asshole at the end honking...

First to say vtak kicked in too soon

Well then I guess we can rule out his vtak wire being loose as the cause for this...

Perhaps it was overly tightended :pat:

Found this thread via a link stating that motor was blown due to PTP pump and I see no such evidence of it being the pump causing failure.

Thank you OP, that was a great video and car sounded awesome. Sure it will sound much better once rebuilt.

As far as the Asshole honking at the end, it was probably cuz you passed him really fast back around 4:17 in the video and you sprayed oil all over his windshield and front end lol.

You're asking us?

haha yeah, that's what I get for driving like a chotch. I know if I saw me pass by me and then blow up I would be laughing my balls off at me.

Hey man, curious where this link was? I have no proof and have made NO claim that the pump had anything to do with it. It could be a culprit but I'll never find out.

this niggah a real life SPYHUNTER ...tana nana nana nana....

You could find out if you don't have a cam follower in your housing anymore.

[Brian O'Honda]Dude, vtek wires are serious shit and should not be talked about in this way.[/Brian O'Honda]

Hole in the block?

Was this already answered?

Where am I?

Don't know yet, but all that metal came from somewhere and the oil pan looks intact so I am assuming it is somewhere low on the front of the car. I'll tear it down Wednesday and let you know. I gotta find out if the head and crank are use able.

everyones speaking spanish....go figure!

I keep watching that video, not for the Spotlight scene, but I could listen to that exhaust and engine note for hours. Sorry to hear about your rod taking a permanent vacation, BUT now holds a great opportunity to build a good bottom end to handle some awesome numbers.

Thanks man, that exhaust sound was one of my favorites. I was trying to get a video of it because I never get to hear it from outside the car. I did get the video at least before I activated smoke screen to escape.

I know what you mean. I loaned my speed to a buddy of mine a few months back, and as he drove off, It just made me smile at how awesome the car sounds.

Been meaning to get a friend of mine to drive off in my 323 turbo to hear what it sounds like from a different perspective.

Pretty much I thought that amount of boost was fine? 23psi doesn't seem to much but then again since he wasnt monitoring anything he couldve been knocking or running super lean during that whole video

Now you're asking us what you thought. I don't get it.

Classic. An Absolute Classic.

I wish you well in your recovery. Hope it all works out for the better!

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So for those of you saying maybe he had too much boost for cold temps, where would you say is too high for winter? I'm new to places with extremely cold weather. I'd like to know for next year. I have my other MS3 that is going to stay stock and will be my daily driver during the winter. But I'm mainly asking so I don't risk it. I think I'll be around 19 psi or so for the next year but I would like to know just in case.

Was this a boost or load based tune?

awesome bro. it looked like a rod that i saw fly out..... epic vid

hell of a way to break in the camera
still awesome!
build it and get one of these bw full race kits when they do them....

I watched this video over n over n over.....i love the sound amazing video without the boom. unfortuently. Buh it does happen and you werent monitoring. I always monitor afr's during wot n such. And always make sure the car is properly warmed up. considering your climate. also, i kno in my car, between shifts im a bit rich, i kno my bov is vta, so probably being why, buh even if so, i didnt see any amount of exhaust smoke coming from the tail pipe. at a 11.7 afr with DI you will defiently see smoke. so i think a lean condition, so if lean, then u probably was knockin. yikes.BUILD!

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sad to hear man, but glad you are in good spirits about it. go BT and never look back

i suppose this is one situation where i can post a Ke$ha video.

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in for rebuild

If the head and crank are ok I'll buy a block and build it. If they are fucked I'm buying a stock motor and keeping the thing stock

Wow, impressive. Was that a flat shift?

Also, I guess it's been asked, but this tune was made in the summer right? Had a chance to monitor KR?

Not a flat shift, tune was at 60 degrees, it was 30 something degrees today. It was definitely leaning out, normally that car put down some healthy carbon at WOT and it didnt in that video

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu.... Good luck with the build man... at least you had a backup plan. Sorry for your loss.

Damn man sorry for your loss. That had to be the worst feeling ever when the car just died. Good luck on your new journey!

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Dude sorry about your car. That video made me sad. Your car sounds just like mine and I do the same thing hitting the on-ramp every morning. I'm glad you are going to build it back.

I've seen this video from behind the car first hand. I was behind Boost3 when he blew on the Cherohala Skyway at EECMM 2009. Sprayed my car with oil and engine parts. One large piece of block or Rod, not sure which, bounced off my hood dinging it then hitting my drivers side mirror scratching it. When I removed my cars front bumper cover six months later to install a FMIC this fell out.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...CF7713-1-1.jpg

It's cast aluminium and has to be a piece of his block.

So you think it was the fuel pump? Did you have any signs before it let go? Vibrating clutch, anything strange?

Is it an 07?

I saw this posted on LS1tech by your roommate. I'm guessing he owns an LS1 Camaro?


Also good luck with the rebuild.

That sucks but its an opportunity for a new start.

Subbed for tear down.

lol at oil drop on the lens at the end.

I take it you're catless? How was the camera mounted? Suction cup on the bumper? That's a rare video grab for sure. Glad you have the funds for a rebuild.

Haha yeah that's him. They are all trying to talk me into stocking out the car and selling it along with my mk3 supras and going mk4. It is an attractive option.

4:08 - Looks like dark smoke and a chunk of metal flying out while still in 4th gear. When you went to 5th, it just started raining car.

subbed for the rare video. and goodluck on the rebuild

cant watch at work :( .. I hope its as epic as all the posts say it is.. GL with whichever direction you decide to go with!

who tuned your car?

And thats what you should do.

Just had to post this because of how epic it is and I figured this would be a good place to start.

Exploding, broken window, open trunk, mismatched wheels neon brings lulz.

damn man that sucks, your car sounds just like mine. At least the camera takes some good video.

damn!!!! epicly rare video! i would be so proud to have that on video if that were me. good luck with whatever you decide to do. either rebuild or stock it out and go MK4.. either way.. you will have yourself a nice car.

stock intercooler?

Yup. This car blew because it was running lean. I suspect pump failure since my last log had WOT afrs in the mid 10s and would dump carbon. In that video there is almost no smoke and then poof. Who knows though.

Why not pull the pump, see how smoothly (or not) it compresses and then disassemble it and check the condition of the internals. Did you hear a lot of new noise coming from the pump? When they start to fail you get more and louder tapping sounds from the cam follower not maintaining constant contact with the pump internals.

How long ago was your last log (or when you were last monitoring)?

Ummmm, afr's in mid 10's is actrully alittle rich. Higher# =leaner

Perfect WOT in this car should be around 11.3-11.9,..somewhere around there...now if you were running say 13s..that would be lean....but 10s is on the rich side.


Also when fp is failing....usually you will get some cut...meaning some hesitation in the higher rpms. did you experience any of this before you blew??

That was his point. He was in the 10s and dumping carbon. In this video he was getting no carbon at all so likely lean. There was other evidence like what sounded like knock in some of his earlier pulls in the video.

right

lawl..what a fucking retard!

Sorry, misread your information. Just checkin, some people dont know how afr's work, so my bad :)

Anyways back to the pump, did you experience any fuel cut at all before the WOT?? my ptp pump started cutting is this colder weather colder weather out, so no wot for me right now.

Also, there are times when I dont always dump smoke when I go wot either..like my first couple wots I will...then couple wot pulls right after wont...my car is Tim Bailey tuned with 11.7 afr's....anyways yeah your trying to figure things out, and I hope you do. Keep us posted.

Were you logging fuel pressures? If you are getting a cut with no drop in fp prior to the cut, then maybe it is load related (not sure when you had it tuned or how long the protuners have had access to the load cap.) If your fuel pressure is dropping, then you may have a pump from PTP's bad batch. Contact PTP and get it warrantied.

From the water vapor I'm guessing that was a cold start? You're into boost at less than a minute after a cold start in freezing weather then it looks like. Since nobody's saying anything, does that mean people think this is a normal way to drive? I wish people would figure out this is a 25K shitbox with a higher specific output from the factory than almost any other car ever legally for sale in the U.S. in the history of the universe.

I actually wondered about that the first time I watched the video as well. Would be doubly bad if there was knock in his tune as the knock sensor doesn't even come on until the coolant temp is like 140 degrees.

Yeah, according to ATR it's 158 - I set a low temp warning on my DH for "less than or equal to" 160 to remind me :)

My shit knocks like crazy on a cold start between the time the coolant reaches ~170f and the time when the oil gets hot.

Seems like all the clichés rolled into one:

Cold temperature
5th gear
Shortly after a shift
Partial throttle
PTP fuel pump

It does appear to be the case. Not sure what it is about winter driving but I rarely have the urge to floor it or get on the car. Once it's nicer out, I have no issue with wot.

Lets rule out a couple things. I had just driven the car almost an hour home from work. I got out, went in the house, changed clothes and grabbed the camera. The car was off for MAYBE 10 minutes at most. It was fully up to operating temperature.

Everything else I think you're all right on the money with.

The car was tuned by Jorge at P&L in Chicago. I know for sure it wasn't the tune. The car leaned out at some point in the last couple weeks and finally went. I drove it like an asshole at all times so I assume something changed recently. I didn't notice any fuel cut since I upgraded my pump. I have a log around here somewhere but its a few weeks old and I assume not very helpful.

That being said, I am no tuner. That's why I got a protune, i dont trust my knowledge in that area enough.

any pics or videos on the engine?! and btw im sorry for the lost

Tune has nothing to do with the current weather in which it blew. It doesnt matter what your timing and fuel targeting was, 98% of fuel injected cars out there will ADD additional timing during cold weather to lean the car out. Most run extremely fat in cold weather.

Its sad to see that she blew, but there are several factors that may have played a roll here. If you didnt feel any cut and i dont recall hearing any cut, then i would rule out the whole pump. It would of should signs of fail before it blew and were talking days before hand.

Since nothing was logged, were not even going to know. Its all speculation. I would put my money on higher timing and a higher AFR which cause it to detonate and lose the rod.