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Turbo_Steve 10-20-2013 10:44 AM

MZR DISI ENGINE & TURBO FLANGE CAD DATABASE
 
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I am going to be building up a database for the MazdaSpeed Community.

I will be drawing up Auto cad files for all the misc engine and turbo flanges for the Mazda Speed engines.

I will be listing these on here for everyone to use for free.

Please be patient as it will be a couple weeks at the earliest for me to list these files as I am trying to verify my cad drawings to be 100% accurate.

So far I will have the following files

Intake manifold Flange
Intake manifold gasket
Throttle body flange
Throttle body gasket
Exhaust manifold flange
Exhaust manifold Gasket
Turbine flange
Turbine gasket
Downpipe Gasket
Downpipe flange

The exhaust gasket drawings are being sent to remflex so they can make us some gaskets.

I can also add a few more drawings if anyone has suggestions.

This section below will be updated with 3d renderings and cad files as i get them ready. This initial post will be updated as it moves along so feel free to comment or add any suggestions below.

WARNING - I AM PROVIDING THESE DRAWINGS FREE OF CHARGE - I MAKE NO GUARANTEE OF FITMENT OR IF IT WILL WORK FOR YOUR EXACT PROJECT - I HAVE VERIFIED THESE DRAWINGS AGAINST OEM MAZDA GASKETS AND COMPONENTS TO BE ACCURATE BUT CAN NOT PROMISE THE FINAL PRODUCT WILL BE ACCURATE ON YOUR END - USE AT YOUR OWN RISK

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DP FLANGE GASKET

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps8bc58b8b.jpg

Cad file in .zip at bottom of this post

DP FLANGE

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps411074ec.jpg

Cad file in .zip at bottom of this post

Turbine flange Gasket.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps7fb5ad85.jpg

Cad file in .zip at bottom of this post

Turbine flange.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps56d42b97.jpg

Cad file in .zip at bottom of this post


Exhaust manifold gasket. -EGR DELETE-

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...psd9b7198e.jpg

Cad file in .zip at bottom of this post

Exhaust Manifold flange.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...psf3719d25.jpg

Cad file in .zip at bottom of this post

Intake manifold gasket.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps2edc3030.jpg

Cad file to follow soon.

Intake Manifold Flange.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...pse310b634.jpg

Cad file to follow soon.

Matching runner for intake manifold flange.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps905d0a32.jpg

Cad File to follow soon.

Intake plenum base plate 3" x 16"

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...psa2c06430.jpg

Cad file to follow soon.

Throttle Body Gasket

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...pscf285606.jpg

Cad file to follow soon

Throttle Body flange for custom manifold. (INCORPORATES BAT SENSOR AND PCV VALVE CONNECTION)

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...pse0f45344.jpg

Cad File to follow soon

CAD FILES FOR ABOVE DRAWINGS FOUND HERE
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http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...1&d=1382552224

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...1&d=1410972304

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MUCH MORE TO FOLLOW

Agent_Orange 10-20-2013 10:52 AM

@Tomas;

zeroecco 10-20-2013 10:55 AM

This is awesome! Good work! We need more engineers on this forum. And more CAD machines :P

Tokay444 10-20-2013 12:11 PM

If you can do the same for focus st, there could be some more people made happy.

maisonvi 10-21-2013 10:55 AM

PMed

midnightmarauder 10-21-2013 11:05 AM

What CAD program are you using?

veritas-truth 10-21-2013 11:21 AM

This is awesome. I look forward to seeing the rest!

superskaterxes 10-21-2013 11:44 AM

what file extension will these be done in?

maisonvi 10-21-2013 11:53 AM

Depending on what he uses, I can save them off in most other formats for people. If nothing else I can do Step, Parasolids, and IGES.

Tomas 10-21-2013 12:17 PM

The awesomeness continues.

Turbo_Steve 10-21-2013 12:26 PM

These will be in autocad (.dxf) but I can also upload them in a few other formats.

Lex 10-21-2013 12:28 PM

Solidworks please.

superskaterxes 10-21-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex (Post 2306129)
Solidworks please.

+1

maisonvi 10-21-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex (Post 2306129)
Solidworks please.

Quote:

Originally Posted by superskaterxes (Post 2306232)
+1

If he cant get it to you in SW, I will.

HawkeyeGeoff 10-21-2013 02:05 PM

Pro/E would be bitchin' as well. I can open whatever if its a step file.

This needs to be stickied as well.

anavrinIV 10-21-2013 02:35 PM

I have solidworks and pro/E at work, would love to have access to those files as well. step or iges will work fine

Roddiy 10-21-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superskaterxes (Post 2306232)
+1

+2

06Speed6 10-22-2013 12:34 AM

Hell yeah this is awesome! If you are taking suggestions, the oil filter flange on the block and the thermostat would be awesome.

Ive seen a solidworks file for the entire Duratec/mzr engine but this is a first for our specific engine

Turbo_Steve 10-23-2013 11:13 AM

More renderings added to the first post. Cad files to follow very soon.

Turbo_Steve 10-23-2013 11:59 AM

Looks like I can't upload the files on here. Attachments won't allow me to upload the needed file extensions.

.DXF (auto cad 2d)
.IGS (Initial Graphics Exchange Specification for 3d cad such as solid works)

Either will need this allowed on here, or going to have to figure out a way to have them hosted elsewhere.

EDIT: .ZIP FILE ATTACHED

Ziggo 10-23-2013 12:05 PM

Zip em up?

Zigatapatalka

Turbo_Steve 10-23-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggo (Post 2309125)
Zip em up?

Zigatapatalka

I missed my coffee today....

Thanks! That should work!

Turbo_Steve 10-24-2013 12:59 PM

Remflex already has the downpipe gasket made.

It's 1/3 the cost of oem.

Turbo Gaskets

But the turbine and manifold gaskets will be on there way soon.

Turbo_Steve 10-27-2013 11:18 AM

Intake Gasket & manifold flange rendering added. Will verify them and get the cad files uploaded this week.

captain slow 10-29-2013 11:26 AM

Awesome. I work in CATIA V5 and Pro/E (actually Creo) everyday. stp files are the best. But with what you have given us here I can recreate in native CATIA easily.

Turbo_Steve 10-30-2013 08:25 AM

New stuff added Renderings of custom sheet metal intake parts.

maisonvi 10-30-2013 09:10 AM

Man, you are killing me. I was gonna make my own IM, but decided against it cause I didnt feel like drawing it all up. now its a lot less work.

I dont got time for this! haha

Turbo_Steve 10-30-2013 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maisonvi (Post 2318732)
Man, you are killing me. I was gonna make my own IM, but decided against it cause I didnt feel like drawing it all up. now its a lot less work.

I dont got time for this! haha


How about a complete manifold?

captain slow 10-30-2013 09:44 AM

I want a complete engine.....

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maisonvi 10-30-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo_Steve (Post 2318773)
How about a complete manifold?

Interested. You have one? or you want me to make one and load it up? If I draw it up, I will for sure give it to you to add to the list.

Edit, speaking of which, I have the EGR delete (both the small block off plate and the whole delete plate made up) I can send them to you.

Jarods7920 11-01-2013 02:00 PM

Anxiously awaiting cad files for intake manifold pieces

kritz 11-01-2013 02:17 PM

The 3d printers will be making some parts for lost wax castings.

Turbo_Steve 11-06-2013 03:09 PM

I have something coming up for a simple intake manifold.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps8daa7fd0.jpg

Will use parts from Ross Machine racing and off the shelf runner tubing with one end flared.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps49715d76.jpg

maisonvi 11-06-2013 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo_Steve (Post 2329086)
I have something coming up for a simple intake manifold.
Will use parts from Ross Machine racing and off the shelf runner tubing with one end flared.



Tubing was my thought as well. I started a design, but gave up. it back on the table now.

Turbo_Steve 11-06-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maisonvi (Post 2329100)
Tubing was my thought as well. I started a design, but gave up. it back on the table now.

The cost to machine individual runners is a bit high. This can be built with $15 worth of rectangular tubing.

Will need to be notched and flared at one end. But the notches can be welded up.

maisonvi 11-06-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo_Steve (Post 2329109)
The cost to machine individual runners is a bit high. This can be built with $15 worth of rectangular tubing.

Will need to be notched and flared at one end. But the notches can be welded up.

Yeah I work in a machine shop so that's not to much an issue. I suck at welding aluminum so I have to have someone else do it. The goal is then to minimize welding.

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Tokay444 11-07-2013 04:19 PM

@kmac;
Here's where you want to be bro.

nindoja 01-17-2014 04:51 PM

@Turbo_Steve; did you ever get the IM flange and/or gasket verified?

udntknw 01-17-2014 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo_Steve (Post 2318773)
How about a complete manifold?

Any update for the manifold?

just tappin it in...

Turbo_Steve 01-22-2014 11:05 AM

Nothing yet for verification on the IM flange but it should be good as I verified the gasket. I will try get this stuff uploaded soon. I have the cad files in the hands of another member on here who it working on some stuff.

udntknw 02-13-2014 04:39 PM

@Turbo_Steve; any chance of getting a CAD drawing for a torque plate?

06Speed6 02-13-2014 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by udntknw (Post 2452983)
@Turbo_Steve; any chance of getting a CAD drawing for a torque plate?

Buying a torque plate is cheaper than having one machined yourself

2.3L Duratec Massive Absolute Torque Plate

udntknw 02-13-2014 05:25 PM

I've got a guy that will basically charge me material cost. Pretty sure that's a far cry from $600...

Just tapa it in.

06Speed6 02-14-2014 10:41 AM

Depending in where your machinist gets his metal, it might honestly be more because its a special order size and the metal distributor isnt going to want any scrap so the minimum length you will be able to order is the minimum length they can order which could be 60" which runs about $1900 with freight.

Online, if you can make 4x8x18 work its around $375 shipped, the next step up is the 4x12x18 or 5x10x18 which are both about $625 shipped.

So you might be able to make one cheaper with free machining.

EDIT: After measuring mine, it looks like 3x8x18 works, its about $280 shipped online.

Drive By Fire 06-10-2014 10:29 AM

I'm currently designing a billet IM for our cars. If I could get these in Parasolid it would save me lots of time. I'm using SolidWorks 2006.

Roddiy 06-10-2014 02:13 PM

My CNC machine thanks you for this thread <3

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udntknw 06-11-2014 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06Speed6 (Post 2453908)
Depending in where your machinist gets his metal, it might honestly be more because its a special order size and the metal distributor isnt going to want any scrap so the minimum length you will be able to order is the minimum length they can order which could be 60" which runs about $1900 with freight.

Online, if you can make 4x8x18 work its around $375 shipped, the next step up is the 4x12x18 or 5x10x18 which are both about $625 shipped.

So you might be able to make one cheaper with free machining.

EDIT: After measuring mine, it looks like 3x8x18 works, its about $280 shipped online.

a long delay for a response. But i have had one made. it is 2x8x13 ish. Don't remember actual size, but its overall dimension of the head gasket. send to have worked rather well.

just tapa it in.

Turbo_Steve 07-16-2014 11:11 AM

I will be posting updates with intake manifold flanges etc soon. Also going to do a file for a torque plate. The massive speed torque plate listed above is available for rent for 21 days and costs $150 fyi.

Can we get this made a sticky?

captain slow 09-15-2014 09:19 AM

ETA on the intake mani flange?

Gr8Speed 09-15-2014 09:21 AM

If it isn't up tomorrow night I'll draw one up and upload it.

Turbo_Steve 09-17-2014 10:50 AM

Added a quick drawing of the Intake manifold flange to the first post at the bottom. It may need to be revised. I drew it originally off of a gasket but I need to verify it with a manifold I have at home later. Holes and ports should be perfect but It may have fitment issues with the power steering pump.

Turbo_Steve 04-22-2015 10:27 PM

Been working on an intake manifold design and I am currently 3d printing some parts to double check my drawings before having flanges made.

This design will require an fmic with custom charge piping. the plenum extrusion and the oval runners and velocity stacks are going to be off the shelf "ross machine racing" parts.

Manifold should kill other designs currently offered for flow.

Going to build a prototype and see if I can have these made up.

Here are some renderings.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...psniknfnrb.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps9f6eplmn.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/s...pswxhlbgkk.jpg

Some tweaks will need to be made once the 3d printed parts are test fit on my car.

PurplFox 11-25-2015 11:05 AM

Any way to get the intake gasket file. Going to make a few sets of intake and exhaust out of phenolic.

WetzMS3 11-25-2015 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurplFox (Post 2986694)
Any way to get the intake gasket file. Going to make a few sets of intake and exhaust out of phenolic.

The IM flange file is matched to the OEM gasket. Just use that.

leo766 04-22-2016 01:22 PM

any chance you coudl save of these stl? I was trying to mock something up for possibly making a laminova manifold

i am debating also trying to make plastic manfiold in order to save weigth, and i may be dreaming, but is there a 3d image of our stock manifold anywhere?

if not maybe i can find one stock IM to cannabilize and create the rendering, i used to ace my engineering classes back in the day when we had assigments in transcribing measurements accurately into a 3d drawings of an object in CADlite, so maybe i can recreate the interior with rtv diy molds? it would be nice not to have to buy an extra manifold just to cut open the damn thing for measurement purposes

part of me suspects there is no way around this tho,if no 3d model exists in public domain

any suggestions welcome

wes3id 09-30-2016 04:25 PM

A nice update to this thread would be the DM FO-ST manifold adapter.

I have access to all the cad/ cam programs in machining class...just don't have the adapter or measurements

nindoja 09-30-2016 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wes3id (Post 3084808)
A nice update to this thread would be the DM FO-ST manifold adapter.

I have access to all the cad/ cam programs in machining class...just don't have the adapter or measurements

Pretty sure DM isn't going to release that, and hopefully no one else would either. Support your vendors.

wes3id 09-30-2016 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nindoja (Post 3084811)
Pretty sure DM isn't going to release that, and hopefully no one else would either. Support your vendors.

I do support our vendors! but honestly, how may many really have access to a CNC machine or even cad/cam program? It would cost more to have a single one done at any machine shop than DM costs. Ok, maybe it's it's too soon in asking for this now...but some time in the future would be nice

nindoja 09-30-2016 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wes3id (Post 3084808)
A nice update to this thread would be the DM FO-ST manifold adapter.

I have access to all the cad/ cam programs in machining class...just don't have the adapter or measurements

Quote:

Originally Posted by wes3id (Post 3084817)
I do support our vendors! but honestly, how may many really have access to a CNC machine or even cad/cam program? It would cost more to have a single one done at any machine shop than DM costs. Ok, maybe it's it's too soon in asking for this now...but some time in the future would be nice

Pretty sure he'll say no, but what say ye @Farhan@DM;?

Farhan@DM 10-03-2016 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nindoja (Post 3084840)
Pretty sure he'll say no, but what say ye @Farhan@DM;?

Quote:

Originally Posted by nindoja (Post 3084811)
Pretty sure DM isn't going to release that, and hopefully no one else would either. Support your vendors.

I say this^

Quote:

Originally Posted by wes3id (Post 3084817)
I do support our vendors! but honestly, how may many really have access to a CNC machine or even cad/cam program? It would cost more to have a single one done at any machine shop than DM costs. Ok, maybe it's it's too soon in asking for this now...but some time in the future would be nice

Than what would you need it for?

wes3id 10-03-2016 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farhan@DM (Post 3085101)
I say this^



Than what would you need it for?

really, Just thought it would be something else to add to the rest of the files in this thread. Since its 2d and can be rendered in autocad pretty easily. sorry @Farhan@DM; wasn't trying to pirate your stuff or anything. I will leave it alone.


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