NEW Cp-E complete RMM with BRACKET
 

i know CP-E is one to tax their items but this thing looks solid, and i may actually get it.

Mazda3 / MazdaSPEED3 Stage2 Wishbone Engine Mount | Custom Performance Engineering


Discuss. Nao.

i love how they advertise thier crack smoking Rand D logic

this BS on only stressing one direction thats a bunch of BS i dont see in the design any different then stock other then better aluminum and a way bigger thicker bushing

Ill pass...

I do like the bracket upgrade, OEM does seem cheap, but I do not recall it breaking before. The motor does twist all over (flops like a fish with the stock mount) so yeah. I would not hate on it that much.

It's purty but for the price I will stick with my $50 TRZ, and would rather upgrade the other mounts

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dont get me wrong its deff very solid looking i just hate how they spoof everything up to sound like they really did something special thats all

im a hater what can i say

and another thing it looks likw they re used thier original rear mount design which means its factory spec size which means the bracket will work swith other brand mounts like the sure mount

and mone more think they making hype about vertical mounted bushing the factory one is same direction i fail to see where its actually different other then size

A single mount can only help so much.

All 3 mounts need to be upgraded.

Pretend JBarone made it.

Would you still hate?

probably not

I'm really glad to see that Cp-e is still putting out products for the Mazdaspeeds.

the bigger bushing is the plus and the lighter component and even with my TRZ rear mount i wouldnt mind upgrading that bracket up. But my motor STILL rocks with the trz on a bit, this might just be the one i need to get it all downpacked.

I have the AWR passenger i just need to stop being lazy and install it. I need to order the trans mount.

im not. at leats when they wasting time making BS like this. wheres the IM/EM/Turbo upgrade they have been working on? or anything else thats useful instead of some stupid stg 2 RMM.

this is why they are in the position they are right now. they will never recover with the current management still at the helm

this is true superskates very true, that is where the true money will lie...BUT it will prob cost the same as mrsp on a new speed.

To avoid starting a new topic:

Has anyone utilized the PTP Kicker Mount in addition to upgraded mounts? The kicker mount tightened things up a lot for me on it's own so I'm curious.

MS6 RMM is already like this pretty much.... ammarite?


win for us.


But the ms3 side of me still fails.

Oh yeah... that is what I meant to say. LOL.

I just think that the more parts for the Mazdaspeeds the better, imo.

More parts and options for Mazdaspeeds brought to us by a company that cares about making solid parts that are higher performance than stock and maintain stock reliability when properly installed...works for me.

They do actually have a point because there really is no need for having two bushings in the RMM it actually does hurt more than helps if you are trying to get things to hook up. The stock mounting bracket has a bushing inside of it which helps dampen things a bit.

I just wish they offered a stiffer durometer, I'd imagine I would still get my engine to snap back with only a 75DURO (max) When the tires hook up. Currently with a 95Duro I still get tons of wheel hop. On the other hand by redesigning the setup to where only 1 bushing is present they might have eliminated the the wheel hop issue through design without sacrificing comfort. WOuld be nice to see someone pushing some 400+ numbers test this thing out.

I am due for some new MM bushins soon...hmmmmm

I don't care if it works or not, that thing is one nice looking motor mount.

Currently I have the old cp-e rmm (stage 1 i guess?) and its a 60 duro. Never had a problem with it, the bushing isnt torn. I do like cp-e products and I am happy to see more stuff from them.

I want to upgrade my current mount because its just too soft, I might give this rmm a try.

Thanks cp-e for still supporting the ms3/ms6 even though you have soo many haters

shiny, but i never got why they use rubber instead of urethane

Torque Solution

so ronery

their argument is that UR deforms under heat where as the EDPM does not.

Fuck it.
I'm making my own solid aluminum bushings for my sure mount and one to replace the rubber in the stock bracket this weekend.

i'm all for the EPDM bushings, but they have to be sized correctly. i think i see why CPE went this route, because i get the impression that their regular RMM bushing was simply not thick enough to take the stress of being put in the stock location. this is why you saw all those bushings tearing. i have personally seen the death of a 50 duro and 75 duro bushing after roughly a year of use each. i know it's a wearable part, but the way i drive, this just doesn't add up.

anyway...i'm glad they went this path, because i can tell that they went the way of their side motor mounts: fuckin massively thick bushings that will NEVER break...

Anyone ever see a urethane bushing break?

Yeah I saw those CPE bushings tear, I think someone also said it may have been because of a bad rubber batch, and they were covered under warranty.

Material reminds me too much of stock ones. Visual changes sway people like me lol. Like this shiny stage 2 stuff.

Yeah, urathane breaks too.

i doubt it's simply a bad rubber batch, because it's happened over a period that stretches past the single batch. as for this new design, that bushing is far beyond visual. something that sturdy is worth trying out.

if they had simply turned the standard bushing up 90 degrees, i'd walk away without a second thought, but you can tell by looking at that bushing that its geometry is a lot different from the original design, so i'm definitely curious to see how this design compares against the tried and true orientation.

there are only so many ways you can fuck with motor mounts, and bushing geometry will usually make the biggest difference, all things equal. this is why jamie went with the biggest urethane bushing on the market for his mounts.

EDIT: it's hard to tell, but they may have just used the same bushing that they use for the side mounts. that's definitely a winning formula, because those bushings are SOLID...

So what is the duro of thus new mount? I didn't see an option for 60 or 75 like the old one.

who ordered one?

Agreed. I had my 60A tear after 6 months and had them put 75A in for the warranty refurb. On Sunday, I heard a couple clunks on 1-2 shifts during AutoX. I haven't had time to check it yet (still sitting on my race tires actually), but I'm looking for other options already. My mods are very mild, I think it's time for a change if this hasn't held up.

ya, you most likely killed it. i honestly think that this new design is rock solid, but if you're not willing to spend that much, i'd recommend the JBR 80 duro for a good DD with some balls when you need it. 88 duro if you just want the balls...

I'll be posting an install/review of the new mounts soon

Epdm vs urethane




DELRIN IS THE ONLY WAY

Vespel bitches!

I still get wheel hop with the 60 duro side mounts and 75 rear mount. will be interested in seeing if this helps any.

I prefer the rubber-like material made from unicorn fat myself.

Have you swapped your swing arm bushings out yet?

No. It may be the next step, but looks like a PITA install. I don't get wheel hop that much anymore as I limited 1st and 2nd gear boost and am just careful when getting on it from a stop, but would be nice to get on it and not worry about the horrible banging noises.

Ever think of the PTP Kicker Mount? Mine, when new, dramatically reduced hop.

bushings are for sissies. straight metal all the way!

http://www.pt-performance.com/images...a882ab8abb.jpg
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:surprised:

That's what I'm doing to my sure mount.
I'll retain the steel sleeve that the chassis bolt goes through.

Looking at the design from an engineering standpoint, this new style looks to be a lot better. They are right about the engine pivoting on the tranny and passenger mount, so now they have a thicker bushing that is going to be deforming laterally instead of vertically. Should offer much more resistance against deformation. It might be 75d but me suspects nvh will be increased due to that fact and stiffness will be increased of
course. But who knows.

What I can say CPE knows how to elegantly say well we were wrong here's much better noaw buy.

I think i want it, waiting for impressions.

That is the most ricer thing I have heard in a while. I don't give a fuck if the things covered in gold if the shit doesn't perform..........well it doesn't perform. It's about form and function man remember that.

Not saying I'd run it for that reason. It's a nice looking piece of hardware, but I'm perfectly happy with my regular CP-e 75d mount.