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estufam3 03-29-2011 05:20 AM

OEM clutch upgrades
 
Any information of this upgrades? Thanks

Cosmic Wonder 03-29-2011 05:38 AM

Yup. You're welcome.

rodrigo 03-29-2011 05:41 AM

let me say this....


FUCK ACT!!!!!!!!!

estufam3 03-29-2011 06:17 PM

Anyone? Mazdamadness?

jwilkins88 03-29-2011 06:22 PM

Don't "upgrade" unless you break your stock clutch. I guarantee you you're not making enough power to need an "upgraded" clutch

estufam3 03-29-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwilkins88 (Post 786981)
Don't "upgrade" unless you break your stock clutch. I guarantee you you're not making enough power to need an "upgraded" clutch

So you think i should replace my clutch with the same Oem clutch kit ? Did i need to change the flywheel with it or i will fine if the stock one is in good shape? I want to know about this because the fidanza only weight 11lbs and i think is too light compared to the stock one. The other option is the AASCO but they want $540 or something for it with a preorder. Thanks for your help.

Tech/Sales@EM 03-31-2011 12:32 PM

I can get you the AASCO at a better price for one. Fidanza as well. Here is the information you requested in a previous thread. Sorry for the delay just got back in town.

Eagle Motorsport OEM Replacement:
Stage 1 Organic 450$ 340tq
Stage 2 Kevlar 500 370
Stage 3 Organic/Feramic 600 400
Stage 3+ Kevlar/Feramic 625 425

CM Changeover Kit: LWFW Aluminum & Race PP

Stage 1 Organic 1100$ 395tq
Stage 2 Kevlar 1250 395
Stage 3 Kevlar Seg 1250 450
Stage 4 6/4 Puck Ceramic 1250 525

paveltol 04-01-2011 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MazdaMadness (Post 789545)
I can get you the AASCO at a better price for one. Fidanza as well. Here is the information you requested in a previous thread. Sorry for the delay just got back in town.

Eagle Motorsport OEM Replacement:
Stage 1 Organic 450$ 340tq
Stage 2 Kevlar 500 370
Stage 3 Organic/Feramic 600 400
Stage 3+ Kevlar/Feramic 625 425

CM Changeover Kit: LWFW Aluminum & Race PP

Stage 1 Organic 1100$ 395tq
Stage 2 Kevlar 1250 395
Stage 3 Kevlar Seg 1250 450
Stage 4 6/4 Puck Ceramic 1250 525

Do these kits fit MS6? How much torque does the stock clutch handle?

Tech/Sales@EM 04-01-2011 08:29 AM

Stock clutch handles dd fine but under load or high slip situations like at the strip its inferior. The Organic from Eagle Motorsport is a higher metal content material than stock so it handles the abuse better. And well you can see their are other options depending on your driving style and torque.

All clutches fit all year model MS3 & MS6

I myself bought the CM FX300. But almost went with the Stage 2 EM one.

sick_role 04-01-2011 08:57 AM

how topical. let me pan am this for a spell...

My clutch is slipping under heavy load (3-4, 4-5). Looking to replace/upgrade. PG recommended ACT stage 1. my concern, aside from the numerous threads I just saw regarding ACT) is my e4p sts & trz rmm/transmount...I fear an upgraded clutch/fly coupled with the upgraded mounts/shifter is going to be too ridic for DD...but OEM clutch/fly is spendy mcspenderson. Thoughts?

JNR5005 04-01-2011 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by estufam3 (Post 787298)
So you think i should replace my clutch with the same Oem clutch kit ? Did i need to change the flywheel with it or i will fine if the stock one is in good shape? I want to know about this because the fidanza only weight 11lbs and i think is too light compared to the stock one. The other option is the AASCO but they want $540 or something for it with a preorder. Thanks for your help.

I just replaced my clutch with another oem kit, and got the Fidanza flywheel because nobody would resurface my fw, and oem fw was not in my budget. They said my fw was too burned to be able clean up by hand enough, and you couldn't put it on a lathe because it being dual mass it would wobble.

Shifts are much smoother (my release bearing was also trashed at 84k miles), quieter, quicker and easier than with my worn oem setup. The car definitely revs quicker and starts to pull quicker thanks to the 15lb lighter fw.

I was worried launching would be affected by the lightweight fw- but I nailed this one launch and flat foot shifted into 2nd and 3rd so perfectly that I could not believe it. A few of the launches I tried I spun a tiny bit; so launching is a little trickier I guess, but overall much better, and not a problem whatsoever IMO.

Also note that the clutch pedal feel is much lighter. There is "chatter" but is does not sound bad at all IMO, and it is not loud. Overall I am extremely pleased with this setup.

R.MS3 04-01-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sick_role (Post 790848)
how topical. let me pan am this for a spell...

My clutch is slipping under heavy load (3-4, 4-5). Looking to replace/upgrade. PG recommended ACT stage 1. my concern, aside from the numerous threads I just saw regarding ACT) is my e4p sts & trz rmm/transmount...I fear an upgraded clutch/fly coupled with the upgraded mounts/shifter is going to be too ridic for DD...but OEM clutch/fly is spendy mcspenderson. Thoughts?

You should switch to a cp-e 75 rmm/60 tmm and get rid of all that noise while achieving pretty much the same thing.

Then oem clutch/fidanza flywheel or one of mazdamadness's oem upgrades.

Tech/Sales@EM 04-01-2011 08:59 PM

Teaser:

laxplayermjd 04-01-2011 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MazdaMadness (Post 789545)
I can get you the AASCO at a better price for one. Fidanza as well. Here is the information you requested in a previous thread. Sorry for the delay just got back in town.

Eagle Motorsport OEM Replacement:
Stage 1 Organic 450$ 340tq
Stage 2 Kevlar 500 370
Stage 3 Organic/Feramic 600 400
Stage 3+ Kevlar/Feramic 625 425

CM Changeover Kit: LWFW Aluminum & Race PP

Stage 1 Organic 1100$ 395tq
Stage 2 Kevlar 1250 395
Stage 3 Kevlar Seg 1250 450
Stage 4 6/4 Puck Ceramic 1250 525

i have never heard of eagle motorsports before. whats their background?
would the stg 1basically be oem replacement with a little more grab? what all does it include. throwout bearing as well? which flywheel can you use it with?

Tech/Sales@EM 04-01-2011 10:38 PM

basically yeah the EM is a OEM replacement with a bit more grab and hold power. Background is in drivetrain and suspension components. Im pretty sure they can get anything aftermarket tho. Pistons Rods and the such.

estufam3 04-03-2011 07:17 AM

Thanks to mazdamadness and jnr5005. I think i will end with Jnr5005 set up.ah

Tech/Sales@EM 04-03-2011 10:04 AM

Yeah No Problem. I have a few sitting here ready to go. I actually got the Clutchmasters in the shop yesterday as well. Let me know and ill help ya out brotha.

paveltol 04-04-2011 12:12 AM

do EM have a website?
couldn't find any for some reason(
There are lots of MS6 owners here in Russia having problems with clutches, especially ACTs. Need better solution!!!

Tech/Sales@EM 04-04-2011 08:19 AM

I have a surprise sitting here, I will post a THREAD shortly.

paveltol 04-18-2011 11:48 AM

Any updates?)

MSP611 04-18-2011 11:59 AM

Updates??

Tech/Sales@EM 04-18-2011 08:49 PM

Yeah the updates are the threads I started on the Clutch Masters Products. The pics above are upgraded discs for OEM PP :)


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