Once upon a time...I blew up!!!

[Realgib3]

So I blew up in Aug. and finally got everything straight with the dealer. Everything was covered by warranty, and I finally decided to post up some pics of the most ridiculous week ever. Burnt oil smell will be with embeded in my nose FOREVER!!!

The field we pushed it into right after it blew up. Waited 6 hours in the sun for a tow...fuck sunburn


Pieces of the block and piston skirt...and some oil




Where I spent 3 straight days going back to stock before I called for the Mazda tow.





Spark plug from cylinder that blew out. The piston was shattered, rod went through the front, and half the piston went through toward the tranny.


AND...............................................
Teaser for my part out...................... working on getting all the individual pics up in a for sale thread. Will be up soon. Lots to sell, it would have been up sooner but I wanted to polish everything before I sold it.

[Lex]

So did Mazda tell you why it blew? Do you have more pics of the pieces?

Before you put in your pump internals, did you have dropping fuel pressure?

[Realgib3]

the dealer i took it to was retarded. they dont know why it blew cuz they didnt even look at it. Just saw the holes in block and that was the end of it. Yes my pressure was dropping for about a week before i did the internals. i swapped back to stock internals before it got towed to the dealer though and they never even looked at the fuckin pump and now bone stock i have nooooo fuel pressure and they wont even look at it because its not throwing a code. The car sucks big time todrive like this. I have close ups of the pics somewhere that i cant find but once i do i'll post. The peices did have writing stamped on them and 2 visible horizontal lines on the bigger peices. Material was very light and seemed brittle... but color wise everything looked pretty good. Also, the cylinder that blew out was the one closest to driver side and was almost totally dry while the other 3 were fullof oil.

[Darksun280]

Keeping the car or trading in?

[halifaxm3s]

were you running the cutout when it went?

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 the dealer i took it to was retarded. they dont know why it blew cuz they didnt even look at it. Just saw the holes in block and that was the end of it. Yes my pressure was dropping for about a week before i did the internals. i swapped back to stock internals before it got towed to the dealer though and they never even looked at the fuckin pump and now bone stock i have nooooo fuel pressure and they wont even look at it because its not throwing a code. The car sucks big time todrive like this. I have close ups of the pics somewhere that i cant find but once i do i'll post. The peices did have writing stamped on them and 2 visible horizontal lines on the bigger peices. Material was very light and seemed brittle... but color wise everything looked pretty good. Also, the cylinder that blew out was the one closest to driver side and was almost totally dry while the other 3 were fullof oil.

Thanks for the info. Post up the pics if you find them. Also, how long (miles and time) before it blew did you change the fuel pump?

[Realgib3]

cut-out was closed for the whole 100 mile trip before it blew.

I pretty much have to keep the car so i don't lose TONS on trading it in, but I'm working on the lemon law right now, so we'll see.

I installed the internals about 3k miles before it blew,2 and a half months or so, and when I took out the kmd's to put the stockers back in they looked flawless.

[Lex]

How much boost were you running before switching to aftermarket internals?

[mario8402]

ouch. this always sucks to see. no wonder everyone is shitting themselves worrying lol.
was this an "I was driving like a grandma and it just blew" or "i was running the hell out of it" ?

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by Lex How much boost were you running before switching to aftermarket internals?

ran 20psi with almost 0 spike and tapered down to 17 by 6300, and I never shifted past that. Before atr though I was spiking to 23 on a ots stage 2 map. With the stock internals I only dropped pressure from about 3800-4500 then in caught back up, and with the aftermarket internals I never dropped lower than 1800psi.

AND.... I was beating on it... Long drive, then no lift shift 3-4 and as soon as it grabbed 4th gear it puked... All good now though.

[stealthspeed6]

no lift shift? as in flat foot shifting with the cobb ap?

[darth vader]

Working on the lemon law? You modify the car, beat the shit out of it, it breaks, you lie and Mazda covers for you, now you want them to take the car back, too?

I have no love for corporation X and their profit motives but, you, sir, are an ass.

Good job posting all this on a public forum, too, that'll undoubtedly make things easier for anyone who follows you.

[zachy1029]

yeah lol..i wouldn't doubt that a lot of dealers get on forums like this and look for stuff. they know the type of people that drive these cars (for example there are very few dealers who let us test drive this car without someone from the dealership in the car) so one would think they would be smart enough to check something like this out.

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by darth vader Working on the lemon law? You modify the car, beat the shit out of it, it breaks, you lie and Mazda covers for you, now you want them to take the car back, too? I have no love for corporation X and their profit motives but, you, sir, are an ass. Good job posting all this on a public forum, too, that'll undoubtedly make things easier for anyone who follows you.

Haha wow, thanks that was cute....

You have fun with ethics while I have fun with my pocket 10k heavier

[Dash08]

I hope you get the lemon law. Just to fuck Mazda in the ass.

I'm sick of this shit. Mazda has voided so many warranties for stupid bullshit, they have blatantly broken the law and shit all over the little people. That company deserves every bit of it.

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by Dash08 I hope you get the lemon law. Just to fuck Mazda in the ass. I'm sick of this shit. Mazda has voided so many warranties for stupid bullshit, they have blatantly broken the law and shit all over the little people. That company deserves every bit of it.

WIN^^^

Originally Posted by Darth Vader Working on the lemon law? You modify the car, beat the shit out of it, it breaks, you lie and Mazda covers for you, now you want them to take the car back, too? I have no love for corporation X and their profit motives but, you, sir, are an ass. Good job posting all this on a public forum, too, that'll undoubtedly make things easier for anyone who follows you.

BIG GAY LOSS^^^

[darth vader]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 WIN^^^ BIG GAY LOSS^^^

Yeah, it's assholes like you that make it hard for the legit people to get service. You get away with murder and the people behind you get fucked for it. I guess that's what being a punk is all about. Maybe someday you'll figure it out, when it's you being fucked because of another loser's actions.

You're going to disregard what I say anyway but, there it is. I'm betting there's a bunch of others here who want to say it, too.

[bikerzee24]

Originally Posted by darth vader Yeah, it's assholes like you that make it hard for the legit people to get service. You get away with murder and the people behind you get fucked for it. I guess that's what being a punk is all about. Maybe someday you'll figure it out, when it's you being fucked because of another loser's actions. You're going to disregard what I say anyway but, there it is. I'm betting there's a bunch of others here who want to say it, too.

Nope I don't, aftermarket parts are aftermarket parts, they perform much better than OEM and should make the engine run better than stock, if the way his engine blew was the fault of his parts then I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be trying to haggle with mazda about warranty. Warranty is warranty and Mazda should full fill that contract!...the only reason they shouldn't is if there is a totally different engine in the car or there is clear proof that a aftermarket mod caused the blow out!....he isn't scandaling mazda and he isn't ruining shit for the rest of mazda owners...he is just trying to get what he paid out of the $20K plus he got the car for!...don't hate...appreciate thats what forums are for

[zachy1029]

ok idk if he had an AP or not
but if he did then that doesn't make your engine run better; it's worse
the more boost you push upon that engine the more dangerously close you're gonna be to blowing it up.

[darth vader]

You've got to be fucking kidding me...a warranty when the car is tongued-out way beyond design, tons of aftermarket parts are fitted and the car is admittedly abused? And, not satisfied with getting a new engine despite being a massive idiot and directly responsible for the outcome, now he wants a lemon-law buy-back too? Is everyone here a 20-something punk raised in a culture of entitlement?

Please don't quote Magnusson-Moss to me either. There is a question of right v. wrong here and, the answer is obvious. If he'd just shut up, taken the new engine and moved on, I'd be more sympathetic but, now he wants to dip his dick twice for his own stupidity.

[AFcadet]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 ran 20psi with almost 0 spike and tapered down to 17 by 6300, and I never shifted past that. Before atr though I was spiking to 23 on a ots stage 2 map. With the stock internals I only dropped pressure from about 3800-4500 then in caught back up, and with the aftermarket internals I never dropped lower than 1800psi. AND.... I was beating on it... Long drive, then no lift shift 3-4 and as soon as it grabbed 4th gear it puked... All good now though.

No lift shift...AKA FFS through ATR???

Another guy had a blown motor with FFS. Mine blew also...and I really think FFS is part of the problem.

There have been multiple reports of FFS into the next gear will sometimes cause a very lean WOT (like in the 13s), which can cause a quick knock situation and boomy.

Basically...DONT USE FFS

[FreeFlyFreak]

Originally Posted by darth vader Is everyone here a 20-something punk raised in a culture of entitlement?

Not everyone........ but most.

[Dash08]

You guys are forgetting the single most important aspect of this entire argument.

As far as Mazda is concerned, he was bone stock when the engine failed. If the car is in the shop for longer than 30 days, it qualifies as a lemon.

It doesn't get any more cut and dry than that.

[Realgib3]

HAHAH please keep this going!!! It's great fun to hear someone who has never met me, and has no idea about exactly why I am going after the lemon law call me names on the internet...haha o yea and I'm the 20 something punk??? come on dude get off your high horse, chill out, and realize that you don't know me, or what I'm about.

And if you think every car with an intake and a full... I mean NOT EVEN a full exhaust should blow up...Really? I mean... if you really feel that way you're on the wrong forums.

As for the FFS.. yes it's a problem I started a thread way back when in the ATR section about it, just go check it out if you want. I think we got it figured out now though.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by bikerzee24 Nope I don't, aftermarket parts are aftermarket parts, they perform much better than OEM and should make the engine run better than stock, if the way his engine blew was the fault of his parts then I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be trying to haggle with mazda about warranty. Warranty is warranty and Mazda should full fill that contract!...the only reason they shouldn't is if there is a totally different engine in the car or there is clear proof that a aftermarket mod caused the blow out!....he isn't scandaling mazda and he isn't ruining shit for the rest of mazda owners...he is just trying to get what he paid out of the $20K plus he got the car for!...don't hate...appreciate thats what forums are for

With age you will understand certain things. Here's a one of those things.

Aftermarket parts are not tested to the same standards as OEM parts are nor are they part of the original design. This means that with every aftermarket part you put on your vehicle you introduce new failure modes.

Sometimes, the vehicle won't fail, sometimes it will, but the risk is always there. Everyone who modifies any vehicle should be aware of this.

[zachy1029]

Originally Posted by Dash08 You guys are forgetting the single most important aspect of this entire argument. As far as Mazda is concerned, he was bone stock when the engine failed. If the car is in the shop for longer than 30 days, it qualifies as a lemon. It doesn't get any more cut and dry than that.

we're not forgetting that
that's what we're arguing about. the principle of stripping the car down so the dealer would think that

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by Dash08 You guys are forgetting the single most important aspect of this entire argument. As far as Mazda is concerned, he was bone stock when the engine failed. If the car is in the shop for longer than 30 days, it qualifies as a lemon. It doesn't get any more cut and dry than that.

O and by the way.......... this was the whole reason for the lemon law to even come up.
Car was in the shop for 5 and a half weeks. I was told that if I needed a rental I could pay 30 bucks a day out of pocket...., I was explicitly lied to multiple times by the dealer, and have photo proof of it, and the car was not given back to me in working condition, and much much more. Mazda USA was notified. by me, of the problems that I was having with the dealer, and was kept informed every step of the way of what was going on with my car in an attempt to catch the dealer doing shady business. Me going after the lemon law is to fuck the dealer, not Mazda. I'm not even looking for a buy back, just the money owed to me by the dealer, and this is the way Mazda is working with me to do that.

Shit my bad though, I forgot I'm fucking all of you guys over cuz I'm just some punk trying to take down Mazda...

Originally Posted by zachy1029 we're not forgetting that that's what we're arguing about. the principle of stripping the car down so the dealer would think that

Just wanna aplaud you in advance for taking your car in when you're engine blows from your sweet intake, and chosing to keep the intake on the car so ur warranty is voided...because who cares about $10k... it's the right thing to do.

[nue]

Hey at least he's being honest. That counts for something at least, right? Chalk another one up for a blown motor due to mods. I still have yet to see any indicator of a stock motor blowing, none of this anecdotal bullshit about having heard or seen another post. If there is one, friggen post the link to one already, be it from the MS6 or the CX-7s even.

[Dash08]

Originally Posted by zachy1029 we're not forgetting that that's what we're arguing about. the principle of stripping the car down so the dealer would think that

That's not the argument here. It's him claiming a lemon law when he was initially responsible (this is debateable) for blowing his engine while modded, returning to stock, having the work covered under warranty and still pursuing the lemon law.

You guys can shout your personal morals all day long, but if this shit happens to you, you're going to do anything you can to protect yourself while simultaneously being a hypocrite for claiming principles you didn't adhere to.

It brings a quote to mind:

"The less a man makes declarative statements, the less apt he is to look foolish in retrospect."

[zachy1029]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 Just wanna aplaud you in advance for taking your car in when you're engine blows from your sweet intake, and chosing to keep the intake on the car so ur warranty is voided...because who cares about $10k... it's the right thing to do.

i'm not a dumbass who puts a bunch of extraneous parts on my car to try to make it something it's not. my engine isn't gonna blow from an intake. and i know how to shift my car

also it's applaud
and it's your not you're

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by zachy1029 i'm not a dumbass who puts a bunch of extraneous parts on my car to try to make it something it's not. my engine isn't gonna blow from an intake. and i know how to shift my car also it's applaud and it's your not you're

^^^Really? is this really what it's come to?

Not gonna blow from an intake is probably the best statement I've heard all day. Please keep it coming I haven't been this amused on this forum since day one.

[zachy1029]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 ^^^Really? is this really what it's come to? Not gonna blow from an intake is probably the best statement I've heard all day. Please keep it coming I haven't been this amused on this forum since day one.

will you please tell me how the HELL i'm going to blow my engine with an intake on my car? unless i drove like you i couldn't. if it's gonna blow with an AEM intake it was gonna blow anyway

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by zachy1029 will you please tell me how the HELL i'm going to blow my engine with an intake on my car? unless i drove like you i couldn't. if it's gonna blow with an AEM intake it was gonna blow anyway

Ok, now I must apologize. I was under the crazy impression that you knew something about these cars. My bad.

[zachy1029]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 Ok, now I must apologize. I was under the crazy impression that you knew something about these cars. My bad.

naw dude it's cool..i'm an idiot anyway. i obviously know nothing about these cars since you have so much basis to determine that

[_Toxic_]

Originally Posted by Lex With age you will understand certain things. Here's a one of those things. Aftermarket parts are not tested to the same standards as OEM parts are nor are they part of the original design. This means that with every aftermarket part you put on your vehicle you introduce new failure modes. Sometimes, the vehicle won't fail, sometimes it will, but the risk is always there. Everyone who modifies any vehicle should be aware of this.

This is soo true!

[easy]

Originally Posted by zachy1029 will you please tell me how the HELL i'm going to blow my engine with an intake on my car? unless i drove like you i couldn't. if it's gonna blow with an AEM intake it was gonna blow anyway

people have blown stock so there is always that chance

I, myself blew up with an intake and don't say its the way people drive because when i had a beater civic it was forced to do things it didn't like, like drive on steep uphills haha and it never blew.

[darth vader]

Just so we're real clear here:

If you stocked out and went back to Mazda when you broke your engine and it worked for you, I would not be bitching too hard. It's wrong but, 99% of the people here would do the same in the same situation; most of us have car payments and $$$$$ for a new engine isn't an option.

What I'm bitching about is your cock-swinging on the Internet, (with pics!) about your victory, which will not help anybody else this happens to. This primarily proves your youth and stupidity to me.

Now, ironically, you bitch about the dealer lying when you started the lie-fest. I'd figure you'd be more understanding.

The thing about legal remedies is that they can cut both ways. You can try to "fuck the dealer" but, if they are smart enough (or their legal advice is), they might fuck you. Job #1 is STFU and don't admit anything.

[BoostIsBetter]

i wanna go to your dealer for work? where are you located? judging from the pics, somewhere midwest?

[mo4130]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 cut-out was closed for the whole 100 mile trip before it blew. I pretty much have to keep the car so i don't lose TONS on trading it in, but I'm working on the lemon law right now, so we'll see. I installed the internals about 3k miles before it blew,2 and a half months or so, and when I took out the kmd's to put the stockers back in they looked flawless.

How do you even remotely think you can call lemon law when you moddified it.
And you documented with photos of taking off all your aftermarket parts.

[Dash08]

There is no point in arguing further. You guys are too set on your personal morals.

The plain fact is that the car was stock when it was brought to Mazda and was in the shop for longer than 30 days for the same problem. This qualifies as a lemon law.

That's how it looks on paper to Mazda and to anyone else looking in.

Not everyone is a goody little 2 shoes here buddy. We don't all play by the rules. This world is a nasty place with monsters roaming everywhere. Get used to it.