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Speedn3 11-20-2010 05:58 PM

pepper specks on my itv22
 
i experienced some sputtering and/or mis-firing in 3rd gear at wot.
decided to pull the plugs and noticed some little black specks on the porcelin of each plug. plugs have ~8k miles on them.
i reinstalled the stockers just to see if the misfiring was gone and it was.
should i go 2 ranges colder or what?
i'm running stage1+sfv107 fmic

thanks

Haltech 11-20-2010 06:08 PM

Go up one heat range or goto copper ngk!

Speedn3 11-20-2010 06:10 PM

itv24?
also, what brand and part# for the copper plugs?
thanks

Lex 11-20-2010 06:25 PM

peppering = detonation. Are you seeing lots of KR?

Speedn3 11-20-2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex (Post 624155)
peppering = detonation. Are you seeing lots of KR?

nope....i'm going to do some plug chops and data logging as soon as i get a set of new plugs.
i monitor kr via my dashhawk.

Haltech 11-20-2010 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex (Post 624155)
peppering = detonation. Are you seeing lots of KR?

He cant detonate on 2 stage colder plugs esp since he isnt on the stockers.

2 things are happening...

1) Your gap is wrong... try .026
2) Porcelain is cracked.. Densos do this.

Black pepper color on the plugs isnt detonation.. if they were green speckles, than absolutely, but black? Leads me to believe its the gap and the speckles are from arching.

Got pics of the plugs?

Speedn3 11-20-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haltech (Post 624163)
He cant detonate on 2 stage colder plugs esp since he isnt on the stockers.

2 things are happening...

1) Your gap is wrong... try .026
2) Porcelain is cracked.. Densos do this.

Black pepper color on the plugs isnt detonation.. if they were green speckles, than absolutely, but black? Leads me to believe its the gap and the speckles are from arching.

Got pics of the plugs?

i'll get them posted shortly. i'm running itv22..these are 1 step colder correct?
the pic is crappy so you probably wont be able to see much. actually running rich judging by the soot.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...zda/plugs1.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/100_8937.jpg

Haltech 11-20-2010 06:44 PM

Yeah i think, cant fuckin remember densos numbering... but regardless, they are still colder than stock.

Did you gap your plugs at all? .026 is where they should be. Use a feeling gauge and tap the ass end of that plug on the table or concete floor to close it up to correct gap. Measure with feeler gauge.

bova 11-20-2010 06:57 PM

Re-gapping is probably what needs done. I started to get a stutter in 3rd gear as well then re-gapped an it went away.

rodrigo 11-20-2010 06:58 PM

post enlarged pics..... speculation based on what a nub sees is pointless.....

post pics

Speedn3 11-20-2010 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haltech (Post 624177)
Yeah i think, cant fuckin remember densos numbering... but regardless, they are still colder than stock.

Did you gap your plugs at all? .026 is where they should be. Use a feeling gauge and tap the ass end of that plug on the table or concete floor to close it up to correct gap. Measure with feeler gauge.

nope...i did not gap them. i just verified the gap at .033-.035.
the specks are most definitely black.

rodrigo 11-20-2010 07:34 PM

ya man i need close ups.... fucken panoramic shots dont do shit for reading plugs...

good luck

FreeFlyFreak 11-20-2010 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haltech (Post 624177)
Did you gap your plugs at all? .026 is where they should be. Use a feeling gauge and tap the ass end of that plug on the table or concete floor to close it up to correct gap. Measure with feeler gauge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedn3 (Post 624227)
nope...i did not gap them. i just verified the gap at .033-.035.

There ya go, close that gap up.

Speedn3 11-20-2010 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST lenny127 (Post 624229)
ya man i need close ups.... fucken panoramic shots dont do shit for reading plugs...

good luck

yeah...i know.
thanks anyway.
i'm gonna buy another set, regap them and do some plug chops and logs.

thanks to all for your help.

G Sp33dy 12-16-2010 02:28 AM

any update? I will be throwing in a set of itv24's tomorrow and have been stalking the spark plug threads lol. let us know!


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