PG manifold intallation

[ev0nstispanka]

Guys.

Can anyone school me on installing the PG mani on the speed3?? Any tips?? I would appreciate pics as well..

Thanks in advance guys.

[Lymerock]

I find it easier to remove the valve cover, its not a must, but it allows more room and will help you avoid scratching the paint on the firewall. also remove that little heat shield in the back to avoid mangling it.

lots of PB and mapp gas ftw

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by Lymerock I find it easier to remove the valve cover, its not a must, but it allows more room and will help you avoid scratching the paint on the firewall. also remove that little heat shield in the back to avoid mangling it. lots of PB and mapp gas ftw

+100000000 easy stuff if the vc comes off.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by palerider +100000000 easy stuff if the vc comes off.

forget the VC. i finished the DNP in 2 hours start to finish.......

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes forget the VC. i finished the DNP in 2 hours start to finish.......

with a little turbo you might be right. but with the big turbo its almost mandatory.

i still think if the vc comes off its cake. we got mine on this last time in under an hour including the vc coming on and off..... and thats WITH the bt. But that doesnt include taking the stocker off.

[ms3guy22]

jeez has nobody remembered me at all.............
PG manifold install

[ev0nstispanka]

o shit ...i dint know..i only fuck with msf.. Damn thats good stuff..guess I'll take out the damn valve cover..man a pry bar??? fuk i hope i dont break nothing

[Funky]

excuse my ignorance, but what is BT?

Funky

[ev0nstispanka]

Originally Posted by Funky excuse my ignorance, but what is BT? Funky

It stands for BIg Turbo. lol. It's alright man we were all Noobies at one point.

[ev0nstispanka]

I NEED HELP GUYS!!! I SPENT 9 HRS TODAY N COULDNT EVEN GET THE STOCK MANI OFF..THE THREAD AT M3F DIDNT REALLY HELP..

[ev0nstispanka]

I REALLY NEED IT OR IM SELLING THIS SHIT

[JimmyMac]

So what's the problem that you are having??

I've had the stock manifold off a couple times and it's pretty easy. Even without taking off the valve cover.

[ev0nstispanka]

i took the VC off...n it seems that instead of 9 bolts like on the pg mani the stock has 10!! n how do you get access to the bottom bolts?? I took only 9 off.

[ev0nstispanka]

its such a bitch to take off?? what am i doing wrong? what are the proper steps?

[Grim]

theres nothing really to explain,just use a breaker bar with a 14mm socket on the ones you can,and then use a flex head 14mm wrench on the others,also there is a little screw to take off.

[ev0nstispanka]

n then?? it just slipped off??? I dont know what else..sorry if i sound arrogant but i spent my entire saturday trying to get the new Mani installed n all i got is alot of frustration.

[superskaterxes]

did u take off the turbo studs? what part r u stuck at?

[JimmyMac]

I use a variety of wrenches and sockets. Offset 14mm, pivot head 14mm, swivel joint socket adapter, etc. As Super stated, where are you stuck?

[JimmyMac]

Did you take off this bolt holding the oil line?


Here is a pic with it off...

[Lymerock]

What sort of wrenches are you using?

Ive found 2 tools that I cannot do the install without (quickly) are a 14mm offset box wrench and a 14mm swivel head ractchet wrench.

If you dont have those two tools, your doing it the hard way, or you wont get it off.

the offset box wrench is especially nice for the bottom center nut and the bottom nut closest to the turbo
Attempting the install without either of those is asking for added blood, sweat and tears

[ev0nstispanka]

Originally Posted by Lymerock What sort of wrenches are you using? Ive found 2 tools that I cannot do the install without (quickly) are a 14mm offset box wrench and a 14mm swivel head ractchet wrench. If you dont have those two tools, your doing it the hard way, or you wont get it off. the offset box wrench is especially nice for the bottom center nut and the bottom nut closest to the turbo Attempting the install without either of those is asking for added blood, sweat and tears

thing is im using sorta basic wrenchs/drivers. n when i go out to autozone,discount auto or bennett they dont have alot of shit either..maybe im not asking for the right tools.. N yes that bolt to the oil line is the one im stuck at i believe.

[ev0nstispanka]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes did u take off the turbo studs? what part r u stuck at?

n what turbo studs r u talking about??? can you show me in the pic lymerock put up?

[Grim]

the 4 studs that hold the manifold to the turbo

[ev0nstispanka]

Originally Posted by Grim the 4 studs that hold the manifold to the turbo

yea i took those out. it seems that oil line lymerock was talking about is it.

n the stock mani only has 9 bolts then right??

because that oil line doesnt really count does it?

[Grim]

it has one more than the pg,that little oil line you can get from under the car.

[ev0nstispanka]

your pg mani has 9 holes for bolts right?

[Grim]

i can remember,how ever many holes there are on the pg,the stocker has one more.

[ev0nstispanka]

Originally Posted by Grim i can remember,how ever many holes there are on the pg,the stocker has one more.

alright...so to take off that one with the oil line what tool is needed?? do you think thats holding the mani in?

[Grim]

well how many nuts have you taken out so far? and the bolt holding the oil line in is like a 8mm bolt

[ev0nstispanka]

Originally Posted by Grim well how many nuts have you taken out so far? and the bolt holding the oil line in is like a 8mm bolt

actually i did take it off...i remember takin off that 8mm bolt..the size triggered my memory. then whats left?

[Grim]

so you have all 4 studs out,the oil line bolt,and the 10 bolts from the stock mani. it should just slide off

[Lymerock]

did you remove the studs from the turbo, or did you just remove the nuts from the studs?
Its a bit tricky if you dont have the studs out of the turbo flange because you have to lift up and back at the same time
the turbo studs keep the manifold from sliding back off the studs on the head

when I removed the nuts from the turbo, 2 came out with them, one snapped flush and the other remained in. luck was not with me that day

[ev0nstispanka]

Originally Posted by Lymerock did you remove the studs from the turbo, or did you just remove the nuts from the studs? Its a bit tricky if you dont have the studs out of the turbo flange because you have to lift up and back at the same time the turbo studs keep the manifold from sliding back off the studs on the head when I removed the nuts from the turbo, 2 came out with them, one snapped flush and the other remained in. luck was not with me that day

i removed the nuts and 1 stud completely/

[ev0nstispanka]

am i supposed to take out the entire stud?? how do i do that?

[Grim]

put 2 of the studs bolt on top of each other and unscrew the bottom one

[superskaterxes]

put the 2 nuts on 1 stud. screw together till tight. then unscrew the bottom one and the stud will come out with the entire assembly

[ev0nstispanka]

so by doing that the entire stud should come off?

[Lymerock]

locking 2 nuts together works if you have the threads to do so, Im not sure if enough thread protrudes though
I had stud removers/stripped bolt head removers that I hammered down over the stud and was able to use a ratchet on that

whatever you do, removing the studs is best done with lots of PB blaster and heating (mapp gas or better) around the base of the stud. Dont heat the stud, just the surrounding metal that the stud is threaded into

too bad im not local, id have that shit done for ya in time for the Patriots kickoff...
do you like the dolphins? if so, it may be an even worse day for ya

[ev0nstispanka]

n it should slide off guys???

[Grim]

yes after the 4 studs it should slide off