PLEASE READ!!! NEED HELP ASAP Another Engine gone!

[booya620]

Originally Posted by gtlaw if you can't afford the highest octane avaliable you should probably be driving an oldsmobile bravada or hyundai elantra not a MS3. if your stupid enough to use lower octane fuel I'm glad your engine blew up

I lmao when I read that, but its true and happens...unfortunately for people in cali 93 octane isn't ready available in all locations. And octane booster, in all actuality, doesn't even raise the octane rating by one whole point even though it claims to. I'd really like to know if anyone who blew a motor was using less than 93 octane and what mazda actually tuned our cars for, 91 or 93.

[Super Unique]

the owners manual clearly states 91 octane or higher. whichever is available

[kraz3y]

Originally Posted by arkenzo QFT

err?

[Betelgeuse]

Originally Posted by RXMmazdaspeed long story short, the motor blew on me. i need it back to stock before taking it into the stealership. i have a Mazdaspeed CAI installed by the dealership, but want the stock intake just to be safe... i also have a PG test pipe and Corksport DP. all 3 must go and i need stock parts. anyone willing to trade for the stock parts + cost of shipping on my end, post in here or PM me immediately.

As you can see you lit a fire in this thread. You said "long story short". Care to give the long story? A little more info would certainly go a long way here.

[zoom-zoomhatch]

Originally Posted by kingpin748 If Mazda will void a warranty based on a aftermarket MM then why should I feel bad about removing mods to get warranty? If Mazda will void a suspension warranty based on a a CBE then why should I feel bad about removing mods to get warranty? If Mazda will void a MM warranty based on a a SRI then why should I feel bad about removing mods to get warranty? I'm understand the position of some of the guys here but Mazda's not playing fair to begin with. Why should I?

Exactly, I've been harrassed over the dumbest crap like my motor mount failure and it was a known issue and they still gave me crap saying I was dogging the car. I don't enjoy being dishonest but reality is that mazda usa has alot more money that I do and the day they treat me fairly I'll return the favor.

[wisniaPl]

Originally Posted by booya620 I lmao when I read that, but its true and happens...unfortunately for people in cali 93 octane isn't ready available in all locations. And octane booster, in all actuality, doesn't even raise the octane rating by one whole point even though it claims to. I'd really like to know if anyone who blew a motor was using less than 93 octane and what mazda actually tuned our cars for, 91 or 93.

there is nothing better than europe lowest otane grade is 95....than 98 and you can buy shell vpower that is 104octane and its like 20 cents more that 95....

[gtlaw]

Originally Posted by wisniaPl there is nothing better than europe lowest otane grade is 95....than 98 and you can buy shell vpower that is 104octane and its like 20 cents more that 95....

they use a different rating system its actually not that much higher than ours

[wisniaPl]

Originally Posted by gtlaw they use a different rating system its actually not that much higher than ours

wow i dint know that.....

[RXMmazdaspeed]

jesus i haven't been back to this thread since i originally posted as i received some pm's. i'm choosing to go back to stock before going into the dealership. whether you think that's wrong or right, i am sorry. but that's my choice. i don't want to pay for the blown motor if i don't have to, as i feel the mods didn't cause this. regardless, the dealership will go through hell to not replace my motor if i bring the car in with the mods on. that's my feeling, that's the decision i've made and am going with. if you feel that is not right, that is your opinion.

ANYWAY, my deal fell through with a member that was going to help. i am leaving the cai on, and the dp and test pipe are off and ready to ship. the offer stands, if anyone local wants to trade parts or if anyone want to ship their stock dp and test pipe for mine, please pm me. thank you.

- kevin

[RXMmazdaspeed]

i have the forge bpv as well, i guess i better return that to stock too.

[Xenozx]

OK coming to these forums and reading about warranty issues reminds me a bit from my cobalt SS forums. However, the stance is slightly different.

First of all, there is a magnason moss warranty act in existance, that says a stealership (cough) cant void your warranty unless they can prove the part caused the problem. So, if you through an aftermarket turbo on MS3 or a boost controller, or something like that, then I would say, yes your warranty is voided, end of situation. That doesnt mean you shouldnt try to get the dealer to fix it. That would be my first stop. take the parts off and keep your fingers crossed. If they come back and say NO GO, then your gonna need to get your insurance company involved or pay for it out of pocket....

Now, when it comes to intakes and exaust and even BOV, come on.... Having any or all of these parts will not cause your engine to blow PERIOD. There are millions of cars out there w/ intakes and exausts problem free. Also, if you know how these parts work, then you know they cannot effect an engine in that mannor.

1.) a car will only suck in as much air as it needs, N/A and FI. by you adding an intake, you make it possible for it to suck in cooler air, and if it needs more air, it makes it possible for it to suck in more then the restrictive stock system. Best anology I can use is you can only fill a gallon bucket with a gallon of water..... dont get into air can be compressed or what not cause thats not what the anaology covers, its just that a engine isnt going to suck in more air then is needed period, an intake isnt going to cause it to pull in more.

2.) an exaust.... Come one, seriously? When you start messing w/ a header or what not I could see an issue, but a catback, or even a downpipe isnt going to cause you to blow a rod. even w/ a header, it has nothing to do w/ how the engine runs. Unless its a home depot header, we can only assume that the maker is inteligent enough to build a part that isnt going to cause problems. I mean any name brand is going to R&D, and we all know there will be no proof that those parts caused the problem. But the dealership is going to call them out as a scapegoat, since they dont want to waste their time fixing it, or their money.

BOV - wow, a valve that blows off boost, I bet that would blow a rod.....

Just doesnt make sense.

This is why I agree with the main poster, put it to stock, and dont give the dealership a scapegoat. This really pisses me off, and one of the reasons i am leaving chevy/GM is because of the bad experiences ive had with their service depts. I heard good things about the mazda dealer here, but then again, maybe im going to start the whole cycle over again...


I had a problem 2.5 years ago w/ cyl 3 was missfiring. I took it into the dealership to have it looked at. All i had at the time was an intake and exhaust. they installed the exhaust. I asked them to take a look at it, and based on some feedback I got off my forums, I suggested they check my plugs ( I didnt know how easy it was to do this yet) They called me a few hours later, said they looked at it, and based on the code, they came to the conclusion that because of my CAI the engine was sucking in to much air and didnt know how to handle it, so thats why I was getting miss fires..... They charged me 80 dollars for the visit, and sent me home right back where I started.

Now I brought her home, poped out all 4 spark plugs in all but maybe 5 minutes, and 1 of the spark plugs, the one in cyl 3 was really fouled up. Put 4 new spark plugs in, and problem went away, and has been gone for almost 3 years now. So was the dealership right? Are they smart? Do they look for ways out of warranty work?

Sure do.

Why not do everything in our power to keep a scenerio like this from happening?

also, hate to use this, and I may catch some for it, but who has bigger pockets to fix these issues?

[gsrtype1]

Originally Posted by arkenzo You are an idiot, both your responses in this thread are stupid and you make no valid point, you're just sharing an opinion, that is all. When someone installs a catless downpipe and an intake and possibly a bov and their engine pops or something is internally wrong with it, it is not Mazda's responsibility, how hard is that to comprehend? Mazda is selling you a vehicle with a warranty, that warranty is based on the vehicle condition when it leaves the factory/dealership. Any internal modification (downpipes/catless/bov/intakes/fmic) is at your own risk. Am I saying that your downpipe cause your rain sensing windshield wipers to malfunction? No, so stop being a smart ass and acknowledge the facts. I have a 3" Catless downpipe/midpipe and cobb sri and SSQV bpv and I know for a fact my warranty is void, despite that, I'm still going to modify it even further, I could care less about my warranty , I knew that when I purchased my first mod.

I disagree with reguard to the dp,mp and intake blowing the engine (it could have made it too lean). BUT Mazda knows people are going to mod and should make the motor gruff enough to take it!! hec look at there commercials you know u gonna get streetrace type people who mod and race. These are not EXTREME mods. now if he wa pushin 200shot if nitrous then...

[FantasmoNegro]

I love how all you dudes think you deserve a new motor when in your minds you know for a fact that the mods you put on your car will void the warrenty. You know what you are doing is wrong but you are going to bitch and complain when they tell you you are wrong? Come on yall. Here is a bit of advise, if you can't afford to fix it, you can't afford to mod it, its as simple as that.

OP I hope everything works out well for you because in my opinion your mods are not enough to break a motor. If Mazda doesn't warrenty it its not their fault though. Again I still hope it works out for you because they need a new motor less than you do.