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LOL. Just doing some research and found this article from Modified Magazine when the MS6 first came out: 2006 Mazdaspeed6 Review - Sport Compact Car Magazine The interesting bit is here: Quote:
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Well don't i feel like a fool lolololol |
I look foward the seeing what comes of this and I most def hope its fixes the problem. |
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Randy, keep up the good fight Bro.. I can't wait to see this come to fruition, and would love to have 600 FWHP.... I'll be torque steering that bitch with a big ass shit eating grin on my face everyday.... |
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seriously man that post is disturbing to me I feel weird now for some reason....can't explain it solidifies the route Randy is so passionate about add the PI rail and move things forward. it's the way to go |
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Modified mag.... What do they know? Lol. And as far as a dcr manifold goes, that's just one option. We are well aware of what will happen if we price ourselves out of the market. And for that I am sure more than one option will exist. And if not by us, then someone else. |
Should be exciting. Nice randy. Jeff at PG dissapproves? Jake at home sad. |
Aaron @ NATOR PERFORMANCE approves |
There's going to be at least one other company tackling the manifold. I know that. |
i am very intersted to see this happen |
RANDY! DOOO EEET!!!! I am with laloosh 100%. At the end of the day, all that remains is the power/timeslip you have. 99% of people won't care if you actually DID shoehorn in that 700HP SRT-4 motor, just that your Mazdaspeed 3 now has 700 horses. And a warranty lol. DI is FTL IMHO. I should have done alot more research on this platform before making the jump :-(. Does DCR guaruntee no smoking on thier motors lol? If so, I may be in line for one......... if my trade in on an SRT-4 Caliber doesn't pan out. I see whoosh has beaten me to it....... Anyway, in summary, Port Injection equals the ability to make more power. Port injection FTW! Direct injection limits power to around 350WHP ish..... DI FTL. You need to let DCR know that they should just do thier thing. Whatever it takes. They are, however, the professionals when it comes to making power :-). Good luck Randy! I really hope you hit your 500WHP and then some! |
^ you have no idea what your talking about. But whatever you say son.... DI in general has nothing to do with a 400WHP mark. Control of the injectors may actually make some headway for DI on this car (as it has on the VW's) Time will tell |
WTF, I can't believe so many people were defending DI. All this people trying to convince palerider not to do this, just crazy! You telling me you got a ms3 for the DI? Additional injectors are used down in PR all the time on NA cars converted to FI. No crying of "cheating" at all. palerider, wouldn't be easier to tap the oem IM for additional injectors, put a fuel rail, and take the fuel line coming from the tank and tap another line from it to feed the injectors. If the oem in tank pump is not up to the task, upgrade as necessary. An additional injector controler or a cheap pressure switch should do the trick at least in the experimental stages or to keep cost down. |
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we'll investigate it but in the end... whats the point anyway. 2nd injectors are a must for big power and were not spend a shitton of money improving the di when it will only still come up far short anyway. vws ahave gone pi. cobalts are going pi. we need to go pi. so di/pi hybrid here i come.... just like everybody else. i want 500-600whp. hell, i want more than that eventually, but 500-600whp will be enough for now. the caliber is at 570whp and i want to play with the red shed. i remeber when that used to matter with this community. and now were the laughing stock. well no longer. time to get our boogie down. |
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Yes I am happy that you are spending time on the MZR platform and that you are blessed enough to have the time/money to burn on it. I really hope we see great things from everyone involved with this vehicle in the future... But the reality is that we all would be doing what you are if we had the time/money to do so... |
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im simply responding to ms3guy22 calling me out and saying i wasnt going to pioneer something because i was choosing to go with pi... and he felt it was cheating, not mainstream, too much power, whatever..... he felt nobody would be intersted in pi and for that reason it was a waste. btw... he has started threads on all three boards to further investigate it... so maybe i made an impression...lol all i said.... is that he, like me, is no pioneer for struggling with di and accomplishing nothing for months, as hes flogged along like a joke.... trying to make a car run right with a little more than 300whp. him and me together...jokes. like others. NOW.... listen to this too you can pick comments like mine to criticize. in context... i dont have a problem. but if youre gonna run around sucking p3s dick and trying to call me out... and whoring my saloon section for those fuckers to boot... then i will get a little upset. with you. so. read my posts more carefully before you try to make me sound the fool please? its bad enough we gotta deal with them, that they gotta go out and get little local recruits too. |
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i doubt it. whoosh? ate baller? ssinstaller? laloosh? phil? ms3guy22? crazyitaliano? speed3shon? theres a bunch of us. all have accomplished squat. many others have quit long ago. i think Whoosh in particular would laugh at the notion that he didnt have the time or money i have. he just had more common sense. thats were i win. im gonna beat ron cause i have no fucking common sense with this car. thats why im going port injection. and thats is what this thread was supposed to be about. hopefully in the end he asks why he didnt think enough of that to do it. |
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Randy, I think you are selling yourself short here. You haven't reached your goals but what you have done is learn. Whatever you have done and will do in the future will benefit us all from an educational point of view. I haven't gone for big power because I haven't seen a safe way to do it yet, but I expect that your progress will uncover things that will help all of us even though and maybe because you are looking at PI. I guess I'm not a purist because I would consider any reasonably priced way of safely making power with this car short of a different motor. We need options and what you are doing has the potential to yield options. I hope you get a big payday from this some day soon. |
Well just keep in mind Randy, 90% of the negativity in this thread are from persons who never had a built car in their life, let alone, a slew of them. i think a small number of us who have built 7-20 cars over the last 20 yrs could attest, you dont know if something is going to work or not until you try it. Filling the topic up with negativity makes you look more ignorant, then accomplished. I would like to see a few of these guys with their 700-1100hp cars chime back in <crickets> |
I think you should do it to see if progress can be made, but it isn't something I'd do to my car personally I don't think. Then again, I'm not looking for big power either. I still think that there's power to be found and eventually the ecu will be figured out and it'll come. Pipe dream? Probably, but I'd rather wait to find out. |
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And... Sucking P3's dick? nope... I am kinda not siding in your "dispute"... I am tired of you alluding to it in every fucking post you make... It pops up in random threads everywhere and I am tired of you trying to throw blame and whine about it...You both had fault in the affair get over it and learn from it... stop holding grudges. |
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and im not gonna stop holding a grudge because it isnt over yet. they continue to try and sabotage my relationship with cpe, and they fucking blew my engine. they tore down my car without my permission and i was told they used parts of it for installs after i left with the intention of replacing them later. they have thousands of my dollars.... money you think i have briefcases full of apparently. they continue to sit around and bash my ass 24/7 up there. it will be over when it no longer affects me. right now it still does. im not interested in your willingness to coach my attitude. youre a p3 groupie and your voice with this mess is the voice of a mouse. |
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I actually had no idea that it was even in your section because I saw it when I hit the new post button and it was titled... COLLEGE PARK TUNING. which on this forum is pretty much me. Sorry... you are correct Randy everyone is out to get you. I think the fact that you are the one bringing up the issue with P3 all the time is kind of childish and no I do not see them badmouthing you on here... at all. Which makes you look foolish. Generally Smearing another business is not good PR. I personally would not buy product from either of you. I still have no idea how I am a P3 groupie... and the voice of a mouse comment kind of perplexes me. |
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All of us are slow. |
Has anyone looked into doing something like this.. Hahn Racecraft - Automotive Turbosystems instead of making a new manifold. its a manifold spacer that tapped for injectors. Hahn has a sunfire that runs an 11.1 1/4 mile on stock internals with their turbo kit and Port fueler. |
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A re-designed manifold will actually help us make power in the upper rpms, not just give us mounting points for the injectors..like that part.. It might be a little more expensive, but it will function much better.... |
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i understand that a rediesigned manifold would be better. If cost was a factor though.... just wanted to add this too....That sunfire is now running 10.56 |
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Sorry if this has been asked before, but can't the standback control the additional injectors for a PI application? |
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