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10-15-2009, 11:38 AM
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(Thread Starter) |   Not Ranked : 0 score  Propose changes/Report problems with the AP, ATR 1. Close loop fuel pressure control 2. Injection timing control They are looking into making these available which is great news. Christian also asked about other issue/problems/requests for the AP or AccessTuner. Any MILs that can't be defeated properly? Any other issues? Any other suggestions? He's looking for solid feedback and looking for it quickly and this is why I put this in this section to get most visibility. So please provide some solid feedback here. EDIT: I will already mention live tuning. Last edited by Lex; 10-15-2009 at 11:39 AM. Reason: MSF Database - Automerged Doublepost |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score the whole MIL thing... yes it will eliminate codes but the CEL still comes on. for example for me. I disabled the EGR code in ATR. still after about 30 miles after a reflash it pops on and stays on. If I go to 'check codes' on the AP or dashhawk, it won't show up though. Just a minor thing but it would be nice to get taken care of. Realtime maps is the only other thing I would ask for (which would be awesome). edit: ATR 1.8.0.0-11359 AP 1.4.0.1-11124 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 (Federal) P0401 Good to see you back on the boards (posting at least) again Christian. Last edited by aaronc7; 10-15-2009 at 01:30 PM. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Please be sure to list the specific code(s) that you are seeing this issue with. If possible, please post the following. ATR Version # AP firmware version # (if an AP related issue) Year and model of MS vehicle Specific code number with any additional information about the issue. Thanks, Christian. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I got a CEL but it wasn't for P0421 which was defeated in 1.5 with exman. It was for something else. Anyone else have these? Can Cobb fix? Sorry I didn't write them down. | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score its every code but the P0421 which cobb took care of. you cant pass inspection if the light is on no matter what. eliminating the code works but the light just stays on. also can we maby get a way to change FFS and LC with the cruise control buttons like the subies have? not a big deal but would be cool.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score It'd be nice if Launch control only worked while in gear with the clutch depressed...that's all I got. Edit: or better yet if you could change your lauch control live with the AP that'd be awesome. It sucks having to go to the track with 4 different maps to try different launch control settings.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Ya all the cel's get deleted but the light stays on 0_o +1 for this fix. (and those 2 other tables!) |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Live Tuning, Real time map switching Improved documentation, more detailed info of ecu logic and exactly what the ecu does with the info in the tables, if known. In some areas the documentation is clear, in others it is quite hazy. Would be my suggestions.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Would it we possible to get the AP to shut off automatically 3 or 5 minutes after losing connection to the ecu? Or at least shut off the display. Also, some kind of KR alarm would be nice (red background color, whatever). Not new, I know, but it's worth asking, right? |
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it seems that its the same for all codes...the code is eliminated but the LIGHT comes on.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score 1. delayed shut down of the AP w/ key-off 2> programmable alarms (knock, boost, bat, etc.) like the daskhawk 3 or 4 would be nice 3) TPMS - turn off this useless light via the COBB Access Port THANK-YOU COBB for giving us another chance !!!!
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| Not Ranked : 0 score All of the above are good! All I'm asking is just to fix all the 09 maps as much as the 07-08 maps! As Aaron said they are pretty weak sauce! Also some of us still have problems running really lean during ffs! I think it's mainly 09 ecus but not everyone has the prob! I am down to help and send you dataloga and stuff but I dunno how much help I would be if I'm not up there though( I live in FL)!
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| Not Ranked : 0 score yeah if we got alerts, multi display parameters (screen is good enough quality for this IMO), and auto shutoff there would be no reason to buy or own a dashhawk. Still if theres only 1 thing we get I would like to see realtime maps (and those fuel/injector tables). |
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Real time. Delay shut down. Being able to disable codes and work. Fine tuning this tool and opening up the potential like it was done for other platforms would be great. Thanks. | |
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| Ive talked to Krahenbuhl and he will be active on MSF again. So, any issues or software table additions need to be voiced here. They are ready to move forward with bug fixes and additions. Ive asked him to look over the new fuel system thread that was started last week by djuosnteisn and lex as a starting point. Hopefully we can get everyone on the same page and get this damn ECU ironed out.
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I just want development to continue, without weird features to please a subset of users. The more Christian understands about the system, the more we should understand, because he'd keep us informed with updated docs and such.
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