Propose changes/Report problems with the AP, ATR

[dan7225]

3-bar map sensor support & documentation.
3" maf housing support & documentation.
a quick tutorial on lowering torque (adding reliability or longevity) to the engine.
what about camshafts in the future (is there any tuning that can help optimize this?)

[bioevolve]

My request is a simple one (hopefully):
Alphabetize the sensor (data) reading/logging list please if possible.

[MS3Zoom24]

-real time tuning/ map switching by AP or laptop

-multi PID screen (probably split top and bottom)

-Alerts on various things (w/color flashing variability)
ex. KR at a certain degree, so we can keep the paranoia alive

08.5 MS3
ATR 1.8.0.0
Firmware 1.4.0.1

[JumpingJackson]

Originally Posted by dan7225 3-bar map sensor support & documentation. 3" maf housing support & documentation. a quick tutorial on lowering torque (adding reliability or longevity) to the engine. what about camshafts in the future (is there any tuning that can help optimize this?)

you can already do a 3" MAF housing , you just have to adjust the MAF tables which there is already documentation for.

[itzl0l]

does live tracing work yet?

[smakdown61]

I vote for real-time tuning.

[xcoldricex]

can it turn off the airbag light if you have an aftermarket seat?

[Scatt Nasty]

not really tuning related but I think you guys need some new hardware as far as the actual USB connector. If I even breathe on mine wrong or hit the slightest bump my AP will restart. It is so annoying, actually the reason I bought a dashhawk. It makes using the AP as a PID display worthless.

[spheed3]

Originally Posted by Scatt Nasty not really tuning related but I think you guys need some new hardware as far as the actual USB connector. If I even breathe on mine wrong or hit the slightest bump my AP will restart. It is so annoying, actually the reason I bought a dashhawk. It makes using the AP as a PID display worthless.

They actually did redesign the connector. I got a newer style AP after mine got stolen a few weeks ago and was very happy to see my new AP had a totally different connector. There's two ports on the AP now, one ten pin connector with it's own dedicated one piece OBD2 cable and the mini usb port for connecting to the computer. The ten pin for the OBD2 actually has a clip on it too to keep if from just falling out like the old one would.

[Fobio]

Originally Posted by spheed3 They actually did redesign the connector. I got a newer style AP after mine got stolen a few weeks ago and was very happy to see my new AP had a totally different connector. There's two ports on the AP now, one ten pin connector with it's own dedicated one piece OBD2 cable and the mini usb port for connecting to the computer. The ten pin for the OBD2 actually has a clip on it too to keep if from just falling out like the old one would.

Pics?

I bent my bendy USB connector and it sometimes resets I think due to it...I'd spring $20USD to replace/trade in the dongle for a new one.

[spheed3]

I'll try to get some pics later today. Its totally different connector design so I'm not sure if you could just retrofit it.

Edit: Added pics of updated connector setup

[jracer]

shut off with ign.
be able to adjust launch controle rpm. and ffs on unit.. ( kinda like we can adjust the shift light )
since the screan is small maybe be able to view two items at once ?? say KR and boost as example..

[austin102085]

Originally Posted by spheed3 I'll try to get some pics later today. Its totally different connector design so I'm not sure if you could just retrofit it. Edit: Added pics of updated connector setup

WTF!! i want that. i bet it stays on when you shift hard to the next gear. i cant data log cause mine always restarts. come on cobb let me exchange my old burned screened ap for a new one. get up on some kinda exchange program. or maybe some one will have to steel mine too. haha

[bioevolve]

^^^ +1

[cld12pk2go]

WG DC table by gear or boost targets by gear (Keeping the TRL tables low isn't sufficient to get traction in 1st and 2nd and I am over the WG spring pressure boost).

Higher sample rate data logging (10Hz would be awesome)

[Christian.]

Originally Posted by Lex I have been talking to Christian from COBB about getting access to 2 tables that will really help us out with how we deliver fuel to the engine. 1. Close loop fuel pressure control 2. Injection timing control They are looking into making these available which is great news. Christian also asked about other issue/problems/requests for the AP or AccessTuner. Any MILs that can't be defeated properly? Any other issues? Any other suggestions? He's looking for solid feedback and looking for it quickly and this is why I put this in this section to get most visibility. So please provide some solid feedback here. EDIT: I will already mention live tuning.

Thus far, we have the following as a higher priority:

1. Have MIL defeats work appropriately.
2. Close loop fuel pressure control. I am sure that some mechanical or electronic limits will exist with this function.
3. Injection timing control (if the table exists).

Many of the other features either cannot be implemented or will require additional resources to complete and will not likely be addressed.

Originally Posted by spheed3 It'd be nice if Launch control only worked while in gear with the clutch depressed...that's all I got. Edit: or better yet if you could change your lauch control live with the AP that'd be awesome. It sucks having to go to the track with 4 different maps to try different launch control settings.

LC logic is fixed for now and restricted within the stock ECU logic. We would love to tell this ECU to do what we want...but unfortunately, it does not work that way.

Realtime map switching cannot be implemented until Live Tuning is implemented. We have not ETA for this feature set and we are not sure of this feature can even been implemented on the MS ECU. This is in research, but we do not know when we will have an answer to this...unfortunately, the solution is not that easy.

AP shutting off after the car is turned off. I agree that this would be a nice feature, but we are not sure if this can be implemented with our current hardware design.

Originally Posted by cld12pk2go WG DC table by gear or boost targets by gear (Keeping the TRL tables low isn't sufficient to get traction in 1st and 2nd and I am over the WG spring pressure boost). Higher sample rate data logging (10Hz would be awesome)

ECU coding like this does not exists, which puts a significant restriction on the ability for it to even be implemented. Higher sample rates would always be appreciated, we are working on this constantly but I do not have an ETA when this will be available.

The newer cable design is not backwards compatible with the USB AccessPORT.

Take care,
Christian.

[cld12pk2go]

Originally Posted by Christian. Thus far, we have the following as a higher priority: 1. Have MIL defeats work appropriately. 2. Close loop fuel pressure control. I am sure that some mechanical or electronic limits will exist with this function. 3. Injection timing control (if the table exists). Many of the other features either cannot be implemented or will require additional resources to complete and will not likely be addressed. LC logic is fixed for now and restricted within the stock ECU logic. We would love to tell this ECU to do what we want...but unfortunately, it does not work that way. Realtime map switching cannot be implemented until Live Tuning is implemented. We have not ETA for this feature set and we are not sure of this feature can even been implemented on the MS ECU. This is in research, but we do not know when we will have an answer to this...unfortunately, the solution is not that easy. AP shutting off after the car is turned off. I agree that this would be a nice feature, but we are not sure if this can be implemented with our current hardware design. ECU coding like this does not exists, which puts a significant restriction on the ability for it to even be implemented. Higher sample rates would always be appreciated, we are working on this constantly but I do not have an ETA when this will be available. The newer cable design is not backwards compatible with the USB AccessPORT. Take care, Christian.

Increased sample rate will be an HUGE improvement. Glad to hear it is being looked at.

[MPSdriver]

I would just like to be able to actually use an Accesport on my car... having a non-NA spec speed6.

[smakdown61]

Originally Posted by Christian. Thus far, we have the following as a higher priority: 1. Have MIL defeats work appropriately. 2. Close loop fuel pressure control. I am sure that some mechanical or electronic limits will exist with this function. 3. Injection timing control (if the table exists). Many of the other features either cannot be implemented or will require additional resources to complete and will not likely be addressed. LC logic is fixed for now and restricted within the stock ECU logic. We would love to tell this ECU to do what we want...but unfortunately, it does not work that way. Realtime map switching cannot be implemented until Live Tuning is implemented. We have not ETA for this feature set and we are not sure of this feature can even been implemented on the MS ECU. This is in research, but we do not know when we will have an answer to this...unfortunately, the solution is not that easy. AP shutting off after the car is turned off. I agree that this would be a nice feature, but we are not sure if this can be implemented with our current hardware design. ECU coding like this does not exists, which puts a significant restriction on the ability for it to even be implemented. Higher sample rates would always be appreciated, we are working on this constantly but I do not have an ETA when this will be available. The newer cable design is not backwards compatible with the USB AccessPORT. Take care, Christian.

Will the MIL defeats allow you to pass inspection without driving the required 80 miles or whatever with no MIL? If not, that would be nice to be able to defeat like Romraider can do with subies.

[evidence]

Looks like Cobb picked up a 2010 a few days ago, so glad to see they will be back at it.

Everything I'd like has already been said, and Christian has confirmed one way or another, so, get to work

EDIT: Very minor, but after you do a flash it asks you to cycle the key at which point it clears DTCs. If you don't touch the key or cycle the key off but not back on it pops the error about not being able to communicate with the ECU. If you flip things back properly and retry, it just kicks you right out to the successful flash screen. Should it not retry the clearing of DTCs? Again minor, the few times I've done it I just pop back out to the main menu and use the diagnostics clear option.

[Realgib3]

A lot of people have been asking for the FFS lean prob to be fixed. It is a problem with the mapping itself. The top of the MAF curve for the OTS maps are way to low, FFS just exploited this flaw. Raise your MAF table in the upper section, and FFS is fine. It might need a big change though. Even when the rest of my MAF was calibrated I had to add 8% up top to hit my WOT target using FFS.

Would be nice if Cobb changed the ots maps to account for this though... cuz I'm sure they wouldn't want the less informed of us to use FFS, hit 13+ AFR's and blow up... Not that it happened to me before or anything lol

[djuosnteisn]

I'd be happy to flash the ecu straight from atr on the computer. Having to go through the ap is a drag. Not impossible, but a drag nonetheless.


And on the Dashboard, it'd be great if you could click and move parameters around in any order you want. Like put both the fuel trims by one another.

[dan7225]

what about speedometer corrections for different size tires.

[OMGWTFHAX]

A "more power" slider in ATR would be cool.





Seriously though I am having some real issues with defeating a P0137 (Rear 02 sensor) CEL.

[Deadman]

Christian still alive?! Any progress updates? Thanks!

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn I'd be happy to flash the ecu straight from atr on the computer. Having to go through the ap is a drag. Not impossible, but a drag nonetheless. And on the Dashboard, it'd be great if you could click and move parameters around in any order you want. Like put both the fuel trims by one another.

+1