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BrianZX10R 03-07-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverDemon (Post 758845)
I knew better, but I went ahead and did it any way, and now I am paying for the mistake

sounds familiar, dustin!

jracer 03-08-2011 09:59 AM

did they use a deck plate when they bored it ??

djuosnteisn 03-08-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverDemon (Post 758845)
It went OK.... well, not that great.. I spent about 70 hours at work last week, I had to work on Saturday, and then I had a meeting on Sunday. So, most of my time was spent running around. I think I had a total of 10 hours invested in removing motor and the accessories from the motor. I have the block to the point of removing the head and oil pump.. I also encountered a small bit of fail... I will elaborate after I fix it, but lets just say I knew better, but I went ahead and did it any way, and now I am paying for the mistake by needing to fix the screw up....

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Originally Posted by BrianGT3076 (Post 758899)
sounds familiar, dustin!

Hahahahahahahahaahha, read my mind.

You'll get it fixed Scott. And don't worry, your not alone lol. I'm still confident my fail outweighs yours.

SilverDemon 03-08-2011 07:49 PM

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I am going to let the cat out of the bag on my little excursion of fail.

I have the stock motor sitting on the stand, the flywheel is already unbolted, and I am ready to remove the crank pulley...(keep in mind that I have read the service manual) Now, since the flywheel is unbolted from the engine I have no way of holding the crank while loosening the crank pulley bolt. This is where it went horribly wrong, I looked at the threaded timing hole that orients the crank pulley on the 20th tooth with the crank position sensor. I thought I would try to thread an M6x1 bolt in and try to give it a little tug on the ratchet. Well, the cast timing cover did not hold up....it broke the boss off of the cover, now I have no way to set the timing pin in the crank pulley. The only thing left of the boss was a dimple where the tap stopped when the hole was threaded after it was cast.

I finished removing the cover, and picked everything up. The next day I took it to work and set the cover up on the mill, picked up center on the dimple and plunged a 3/8" cutter into the cover. I took the depth to about .130" from breaking through. I then center drilled and tapped a piece of 3/8" round stock to 10 - 24 . I made the new boss about 3/8" long. I then cut a 10 - 24 clearance hole in the timing cover (the center of the old boss), counter sunk a flat head into the back of the cover. I used loc-tite 680 (high strength retaining compound) to hold the new boss and the flat head 10 -24 into the cover. Next I threaded the flat head screw through the cover and into the new boss. Now I have a new hole to center the crank pulley by using a 1/4" shoulder bolt.


After all of that, I am now starting to assemble the accessories on the built block....

06Speed6 03-08-2011 11:10 PM

^^^ Gheeeeetttttoooooo... I didnt know you were mexican!

SilverDemon 03-09-2011 02:57 AM

SI....

hahaha

spnkr21 03-09-2011 03:37 AM

If this had happened to any other person it would've taken weeks to fix or the part would need replacing.

socks 03-09-2011 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverDemon (Post 760384)
I am going to let the cat out of the bag on my little excursion of fail.

I have the stock motor sitting on the stand, the flywheel is already unbolted, and I am ready to remove the crank pulley...(keep in mind that I have read the service manual) Now, since the flywheel is unbolted from the engine I have no way of holding the crank while loosening the crank pulley bolt. This is where it went horribly wrong, I looked at the threaded timing hole that orients the crank pulley on the 20th tooth with the crank position sensor. I thought I would try to thread an M6x1 bolt in and try to give it a little tug on the ratchet. Well, the cast timing cover did not hold up....it broke the boss off of the cover, now I have no way to set the timing pin in the crank pulley. The only thing left of the boss was a dimple where the tap stopped when the hole was threaded after it was cast.

I finished removing the cover, and picked everything up. The next day I took it to work and set the cover up on the mill, picked up center on the dimple and plunged a 3/8" cutter into the cover. I took the depth to about .130" from breaking through. I then center drilled and tapped a piece of 3/8" round stock to 10 - 24 . I made the new boss about 3/8" long. I then cut a 10 - 24 clearance hole in the timing cover (the center of the old boss), counter sunk a flat head into the back of the cover. I used loc-tite 680 (high strength retaining compound) to hold the new boss and the flat head 10 -24 into the cover. Next I threaded the flat head screw through the cover and into the new boss. Now I have a new hole to center the crank pulley by using a 1/4" shoulder bolt.


After all of that, I am now starting to assemble the accessories on the built block....

I did that EXACT same thing when i had my motor on a stand..... you're not alone.

luckily with mine they were still able to time the engine without repairing/replacing the timing cover. it was broken just enough to tick me off but still able to snug a bolt on for the timing

SilverDemon 03-09-2011 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jracer (Post 759527)
did they use a deck plate when they bored it ??

yes...my machinest made his own deck plate

djuosnteisn 03-09-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverDemon (Post 760384)
After all of that, I am now starting to assemble the accessories on the built block....

Ugh... haha you should have phoned a friend man. I would have sent you a timing cover to save you some trouble.


When i had to pull the crank bolt on the last motor, i took a piece of flat stock, and drilled 2 holes in it spaced such that i could bolt it to the flywheel hole and bell housing. It worked perfect. I can take a pic for you if you wanna know more what i mean.


Nice save Scott.

SilverDemon 03-09-2011 09:52 AM

I had ya on speed dial if this little fix would not have worked. hahaha It really only took me 45mins to fix, and I did it at work, so I got paid for fixing it... :D

djuosnteisn 03-09-2011 10:09 AM

Lolol. Can't really argue with that shit. Almost an incentive to break stuff.

cpolly69 03-09-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverDemon (Post 760721)
SI....

hahaha

If only you had the skills of the real Mexican......
This whole project would have be so much easier for you
:)

SilverDemon 03-12-2011 04:07 PM

Jiggen' up the down pipe location!!!
 
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I bolted everything to my stock motor so I can locate the position on the exhaust with out the engine being the car. Once all the go fast goodies start to show up I can fab the new down pipe and dump tube for the waste gate.

smitty5788 03-12-2011 07:43 PM

Looks great scott. Are you sticking with the 2871 or is something else in the works?

SilverDemon 03-12-2011 07:54 PM

Thanks...

I had to go with something bigger than the 2871. I am going with steedspeed's manifold with a 35R T3 set up.

smitty5788 03-12-2011 08:16 PM

Thats going to be nasty. Are you having Automotion tune it?

SilverDemon 03-12-2011 08:19 PM

I have been thinking about letting them do the tune.

Did you go there to get yours dyno'ed?

smitty5788 03-12-2011 08:27 PM

Ya, stock was 212HP 222TQ, stage 1 was 250HP 262TQ on a mustang.

I have a Big MAF Intake, 3" inlet, ATP 3071, DP, CBE, EWG, Up Pipe, Header all sitting in my apartment ready to go on. Just waiting on some injectors and a fuel pump and some P&P work on the intake manifold, TB and TGV deletes.

SilverDemon 03-12-2011 08:37 PM

Good numbers on that dyno....my car hated that dyno, but I believe he put the best tune on the car


Your going to need something bigger than the 3071 to keep up man...hahahaha

Edit: is Charles still at Automotion ?

SilverDemon 03-17-2011 05:44 PM

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A few more pics...Assembly of the top end, timed, and all accessories are installed. Valve cover and intake manifold powder coated.....The last pic still has a few items missing. :)

djuosnteisn 03-17-2011 05:49 PM

Fuuuuuuck, this is getting me excited man.

Good job, and i hope to not be toooo far behind you.

bova 03-17-2011 05:49 PM

looks awesome

manelscout4life 03-17-2011 06:22 PM

This is going to be sick.

spnkr21 03-17-2011 06:25 PM

What!
Scott you need to clean up my engine bay.
Let's see pics of the new turbo!!!!

SilverDemon 03-17-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by spnkr21 (Post 771926)
What!
Scott you need to clean up my engine bay.
Let's see pics of the new turbo!!!!

I wish I could show pics of the turbo...but I have not received it yet (come on Mark!!!) The exhaust manifold shipped today...hope to have it in a few days.

spnkr21 03-17-2011 06:46 PM

Haha. I didn't know you got one. What size? The intake mani looks so amazing. I can't get over that thing.

SilverDemon 03-17-2011 06:47 PM

Hahaha..thanks man!! T3 GT35r .63 A/R and the steedspeed exhaust mani, and tial 38mm exg

spnkr21 03-17-2011 06:50 PM

Awesome
Zex
I mean sex
Zex

SilverDemon 03-17-2011 06:56 PM

never fear...I am looking into something along those lines.....hehehehehe

spnkr21 03-17-2011 07:03 PM

Coitus?

SilverDemon 03-17-2011 07:07 PM

That word does not exist for me, I have been married for too long :D ......but a Zex N2O system might become a reality in the near future....

tbot 03-17-2011 08:08 PM

Good work man! I hope to have my car up and running soon...but nothing fancy yet...I haz no monies.

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djuosnteisn 03-17-2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tbot (Post 772028)
Good work man! I hope to have my car up and running soon...but nothing fancy yet...I haz no monies.

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A fully forged bottom end is fancy man :sombrero:




Scott... thank god your thinking about nitrous.

AtTheDriveIn 03-17-2011 09:28 PM

Anxious for number!! omg omg omg omg......

doubleflusher 03-17-2011 09:33 PM

Into which hole do I insert my penis?

tbot 03-17-2011 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by djuosnteisn (Post 772122)
A fully forged bottom end is fancy man :sombrero:

Yeah I was thinking more along the lines of big top mount Turbo being fancy.




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xcoldricex 03-20-2011 04:04 PM

NICE!

where's that spark plug cover? :)

Spoolme 03-25-2011 07:22 PM

amazing man. I cannot wait to see this thing in action.

SilverDemon 03-30-2011 04:19 AM

Just a little update........

It has been 22 days since the money was sent from my paypal account for the steedspeed exhaust manifold....you think that might be a little excessive?

Then the bullshit with dealing with ATP on the turbo....Them fucksticks need a new kindergarden teacher to help them manage simple orders....The order went through Street Unit, Mark has stepped up and has bent over backwards to make things right with me, even though ATP is fucking him on the backside...

I thought having a hobby was meant to be fun...not a fight everytime an order is placed.


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