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o3clipsegts 10-26-2009 12:11 PM

Speed 3 smoking after dp install
 
I just installed a turbo xs downpipe on my speep 3 yesterday. The only other mod I have is an intake. My car is smoking very bad at idle and at start up a kind of white grayish smoke. Not sure what this could be from. Hope someone can shed some light on this. Thanks alot guys

Lex 10-26-2009 12:13 PM

The search button is your friend. This is a well documented issue (look up smoking turbos)

RUMBLEFISH 10-26-2009 12:15 PM

That is a problem many have had. I intstalled a race pipe and after a while I started to smoke. The only thing that worked for me was the PTP Performace pill that goes in the valve cover. It took a few weeks but now I dont smoke at all. Buy it and try it first before the catch cans and eveything else out their.

Good Luck

o3clipsegts 10-26-2009 12:19 PM

I was thinking it might be the turbo seals... But to Rumble what actually causes this?

gsrtype1 10-26-2009 12:32 PM

Get 5w40 oil and it fixes it most of the time. Also if you got your oil changed somewhere they may have put 5w20 oil in your car(thats whats recommended for the reg 3) this would worsen this issue. The speed takes 5w30. If this did happen the they may have only put 4 quarts in as well. the speed takes 6 quarts the reg 3 takes 4. The thinner oil seeps past the turbo seals when you install a dp cause the low restriction. Rumblefish has a good idea too.

stealthspeed6 10-26-2009 12:56 PM

If the seals were bad it would smoke all the time!

asiandude74 10-26-2009 01:19 PM

My car smoked all the time at idle when i first installed my dp but then i switched to 5w40 and it got rid of the smoking.

cpolly69 10-26-2009 02:06 PM

Google

MTOL 5505

dizzin9 10-26-2009 10:28 PM

something like this?


it was like 1 hr after the sbe install and it's idling for like 10 mins in the video

silversurfer3 10-27-2009 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthspeed6 (Post 344888)
If the seals were bad it would smoke all the time!

lol the seals ARE bad. You're statement is false sir!!!!

o3clipsegts 10-27-2009 12:23 AM

The video is exactly what my car is doing. I guess ill try changing the oil

silversurfer3 10-27-2009 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by o3clipsegts (Post 345388)
The video is exactly what my car is doing. I guess ill try changing the oil

Bro listen everyone here with a ko4 has blown/leaky seals some just don't see it because the have stock exhaust with all the cats that eat up all the smoke so they don't know. I installed my down pipe at 1500 miles and right after I turned on the car car bam smoke everywhere. don't waste you're time with the oil yes it works but you need to get a catch can and the ptp pill they work. The catch can will save some oil 5-30or5-40 what ever you choose from getting in you're intake manifold and you're motor.

o3clipsegts 10-27-2009 01:03 AM

iv been reading that the motor pushes oil past the turbo seals due to the crank case pressures but Mazda has no fix for this yet...

stealthspeed6 10-27-2009 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silversurfer3 (Post 345382)
lol the seals ARE bad. You're statement is false sir!!!!

well then you're an idiot that hasn't obviously done his research then.

silversurfer3 10-27-2009 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthspeed6 (Post 345430)
well then you're an idiot that hasn't obviously done his research then.

Lol Why is Mazda replacing so many perfect working ko4's ass clown.
Butt pirate ho cake. Do some research

stealthspeed6 10-27-2009 10:40 AM

because they are as retarded as you are. explain how my turbo that smoked a year ago while at idle doesn't smoke anymore and runs perfectly fine?

silversurfer3 10-27-2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthspeed6 (Post 345569)
because they are as retarded as you are. explain how my turbo that smoked a year ago while at idle doesn't smoke anymore and runs perfectly fine?

Let me guess you're mods hmmm stock!!! :scratchchin:

stealthspeed6 10-27-2009 11:13 AM

um hardly there bud. everything but an exhaust manifold which has yet to be installed.

installing a downpipe isn't going to cause turbo seals to automatically go. its a pcv issue, why do you think mazda is redesigning the pcv?

o3clipsegts 10-28-2009 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthspeed6 (Post 345594)
um hardly there bud. everything but an exhaust manifold which has yet to be installed.

installing a downpipe isn't going to cause turbo seals to automatically go. its a pcv issue, why do you think mazda is redesigning the pcv?

Would have to agree with this. If the seals were bad it wouldnt just smoke sometimes at idle

BIGGERDAKINE 10-28-2009 12:43 AM

Had the same problem after my dp/tp install.... PTP sells the fix for this. Simple to install and its been months since my car smokes at idle.

o3clipsegts 10-29-2009 12:29 AM

10w40 did not work im going to order the part from ptp

ms3077 10-29-2009 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by o3clipsegts (Post 346872)
10w40 did not work im going to order the part from ptp

Why'd you use 10W40? I thought everyone was suggesting 5w40?

Frequentflyer 10-29-2009 07:57 AM

Cats don't eat up all the smoke. Anyone who;s done a Seafoam treatment knows that it doesn't take much Seafoam to get the car to smoke. So I don't believe cars with stock exhausts are hiding this issue.

o3clipsegts 10-29-2009 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ms3077 (Post 346878)
Why'd you use 10W40? I thought everyone was suggesting 5w40?

Looked at 4 different places and 10w 40 is all I could find.

stealthspeed6 10-29-2009 12:19 PM

walmart - shell rotella t-syn 5w40. good stuff. i see you are from pittsburgh, where abouts?

dizzin9 10-29-2009 07:07 PM

my setup. let's see:

- valvoline 5w-40: CHECK
- pt perf. "fix": CHECK
- white smoke: CHECK lol
- water like substance (coolant?): BIG CHECK

upon observation i only smoke during noon til like 4, when it's the warmest of course, anybody know why?

EDIT: nvm, i just had a short drive and i'm spitting coolant again

o3clipsegts 10-30-2009 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthspeed6 (Post 347148)
walmart - shell rotella t-syn 5w40. good stuff. i see you are from pittsburgh, where abouts?

Butler area actually what about you?

dizzin9 11-01-2009 01:18 AM

OP: if u have the same problem as me, go get the PT Performance PCV Fix ASAP!

yeah i know, i ripped them in my last post (sorry pt p). i thought about doing a return but noticed it was not hammered all the way in. gave it one more shot and slammed that bitch in, moments later the smoke was gone. i know it worked right away because that distinct smell of the coolant and the 'spitting' went away. been driving the car hard, slow, cruise, a/c on/off, heater on/off, day, night, u name it and no signs of smoke.

o3clipsegts 11-01-2009 09:51 AM

I am going to try it thanks bro

Lex 11-01-2009 11:57 AM

This PTP fix, is it a restrictor that sits in the hose between the valve cover and the intake?

cpolly69 11-01-2009 06:53 PM

yes it is and it's a good idea as long as your pcv isn't so screwed up that there's pressure coming out of that line -
if you have vac on the valve cover it increases vac pressure in the valvetrain area - putting things into better balance for pressures to travel down into the crankcase from there

dizzin9 11-03-2009 09:40 PM

it's been a couple of days now and again, no smoke :)

thenewzolt 11-03-2009 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by o3clipsegts (Post 347585)
Butler area actually what about you?

i live down in gibsonia on route 8


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