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(Thread Starter) |   Not Ranked : 0 score  Stock rods needed for testing Problem is I don't have enough whole rods for this. So, I need some complete, unbent rods from people that have upgraded or blew up other cylinders. It is very important that the rods are not bent and that the caps and bolts are included Please let me know if you have any you can send my way, I am looking for a couple. The rods will be bent during the testing and will no longer be usable if that wasn't obvious. Thanks! |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score i'll see what i can do when i pick mine up. not sure if they were going to keep the block as a turn in or what but i'll ask. i wanted to keep my bent ones anyway to always remind me of what fun its been.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Lex, a local guy here just blew recently i guess. One rod is broken, but the other's may be intact. Not sure if you'd want them, cause they are probably already structurally compromised, but i'll see if i can get them anyway. Maybe your company could do a material analysis on the compound or something.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score this will be very nice to know, good shit lex  - how exactly are they going to test the rods
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lol they pull on it with a machine. we have all these machine at my school but i dont really have the access to use them cause they are more for acedemic purposes.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score OK, looks like I have all the rods I need for now. If I need more, will let you guys know. We will see what these guys can do. I am very interested in what they find because they have terms of comparison with other stock rods and aftermarket ones. Without terms of comparison it's harder to tell what you're looking at even if a machine spits out some numbers. bf360, if you can do some stress,strain,hardness tests on the rods that would be great. Let me know what you need. |
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Actually tension on the rods goes up with the square of the RPM. So it is equally important to compression. The oscillation between tension and compression is what fatigues the rod. |
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| test them already lex. i'm getting tuned next week hehe |
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