Sure: Torq S3(PMM,DMM)/ Torq R3 install pictures
 

Look little time to install( pizza break in between) but here are the pictures. Any question on how to install just ask. Thanks
(STREET BUSHINGS)

RMM
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...0B87E6B865.jpg
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...0B8E4E49B5.jpg

PMM
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...0B926E0A71.jpg
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...0B96B7213B.jpg

DMM
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...0B9B0AC7B9.jpg
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...0B9FC49292.jpg

I haven't had time to drive it but I will tomorrow. But I did start the car and very little vibration was felt. As I put more miles they will go away. Ill give a brief review about them tomorrow.

Any snags/concerns/interesting facts learned during install?

Alot of wiggling of the engine

Oh and very easy job

Subbed for impressions.

Subbed because I want to know how you like the durometer you choose.

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Ok well I'm impressed by the engine mounts. The installation was easy. A lot of moving the engine. When done I turned on the car and very mild vibration came through the cabin. The next day I went out for a drive and the shifting while normal driving was very smooth. At high rpm(4,000-5,000) it vibrated a bit and a lot of cabin noise. A day or so went by and the cabin noise at high rpm was reduced. And normal driving vibration was almost gone. Keep in mind I ordered the street bushings. Shifting while accelerating hard is a lot more accurate. I feel like the car gain more traction a bit in 1st and more in 2nd. It's been about 5 days I believe since my brother and I installed them. If your willing to spend $600-$700 on the three engine mounts I recommend you do. Any more question feel free to ask. Thanks.

Cool thanks for the update. So you don't have many miles on them and there is still no vibrations under normal driving(stock amount of vibrations)? I am probably going to go with the track bushings, and judging by the street bushings is sounds like it wont be bad at all.

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Kinda want these after several thousand miles and no noticeable decrease in vibes from my JBR mounts. Maybe I installed mine wrong? They're great, only thing is under 2k rpm, vibes get intense. Could also be that I'm a pussy.

After these get a few thousand miles on them, you think you could get a video of the engine as motor turns over?

Sure ill make a video after 2,000 miles. Ill try to make one of them now to compare now and then.

Yea vibration is very little now. Hopefluuy they don't soften up too much. I believe if your looking for comfort then go for street bushings, maybe the race won't be that bad put will vibrate more

This is exactly what I noticed when I rode in grantmm's car. His with mounts was almost stock feeling in comparison to my Jbr dogbone. I now want sure trilogy for certain.

Go for it man am very impressed by them. I was expecting a lot of vibration but got the opposite.

Hey I see that you have koni yellows struts on you ms3. What adjustment degree would you recomend for the rear? So I won't have to remove them often for adjustment. Thanks.

@Luny Man Eunos; I have a MS6 man. But in the rear I have them about 1/3 from full soft. I think it could be a little stiffer, maybe half would be good but its pretty comfy right now. only reason to make it stiffer would be to induce some oversteer but Im getting coils this month so Im not gunna bother adjusting it. Sorry for misleading you, I only posted here because the MS6 side mounts sould be similar in feel of the vibes to a MS3. They are still in production so the onyl way to get impressions is to ask MS3 owners.

Dang it! I forgot I was in a ms6 thread, sorry. Ill do adjustments to them when I Finnish autocross events to balance the front with the rear. Crap the rear shocks are a easy job to remove them so that's good, maybe I could remove them in between my runs hahaha, but ill be using the oem spring for now. But as for the engine mounts I believe they should feel similar to the ms3 mounts.

I have about 1k miles on mine, they really mellow out, the only time they really vibrate is when taking off from a stop now. Yet again they werent really that bad when I installed them.

How much tranny whine do you get over stock. I got the sure track RMM and will do with sure mounts later on. In just don't want to hear the tranny whine all the time. Vibes are fine but that is just annoying

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Almost stock whine. It's not bad at all really.

Be sweet if you could take a video from the cabin. i know the JBR mounts cause alot more whine than stock.

I would go with the track bushings instead of street, but would like to see how the street bushings sound

Subbed to know about trans whine, cabin noise. I took the JBR ones out cause the noise drove me crazy, the trans whine was always there, and for long trips it was annoying as fk.


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its mild whine, such that the stereo on 5 pretty much covers most of it up. If you have the windows down or a semi-loud catback it pretty much covers it all up either way.

I just had my SURE DMM & TMM with street bushings installed (I was already running a Streetunit RMM). Granted I have only put about 40 miles on them, the vibes are fairly intense. If the side mounts are anything like my RMM, I am not concerned because they will mellow as they break in.

But the tranny whine is a whole different story. This is my daily driver. I rarely listen to the radio because I love the sound of my motor and my HKS catback...but now my HKS seems to of disappeared to the tranny whine. I am worried that the tranny whine is one of those things that may never go away??? Before I fully jump to conclusions... I'm going to give these mounts the full break in period and then re-evalute on whether I should leave them in or take them out.

these mounts fit ms6 right?

Edit: nope just called SURE to make SURE they don't! FML @Haltech; you might wanna fix your review.

Just for future reference - most 'structural' or 'chassis' things (i.e. motor mounts, sway bars, etc.) won't fit both vehicles, but most engine things (except for the top mount manifold) will. I know it seems obvious in retrospect, and I'm not trying to sound like a dick or anything, but that's how it is. Also, there are some parts from the mazdaspeed 6 which are used in the AWD speed 3's that have been made but I forget what they are.

The SURE motor mounts are coming out soon, hopefully "two weeks..." but now Im questioning the durability of the bushings since a lot of people have found them corroding away now it seems.

I spoke to Cullen at Sure. I asked him about the tranny whine and he said that it is alot louder on the speed 3 versus the ones they are testing on their 6's right now. Apparently this is something that us 3's will have to live with.

He did stress that it is very important to torque the passenger side center bolt to 85 foot lbs and all of the other bolts to 65 lbs. He said that if it is to loose it will destroy the bushings.

Now that I have about 150 miles on these mounts, I am really starting to love them. The vibes are already starting to diminish and my car connects to the ground in a whole new way!! These mounts really put the power to the pavement along with feeling more confident/stiffer in turns. I knew this shit was going to happen....I guess I will just have to live with the tranny whine.

How many of you on XT-M5-QS Transaxle fluid?

of course. I think I will remember that fact now since I already purchased the wrong mounts for my vehicle. BTW, @Haltech; , could you be so kind and change the first sentence in your review clarify that the mount is only fit MS3s http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...review-118221/ so idiots like me don't get misled?

I'm on lucas synthetic transmission fluid. Works great once it's warm. I'm thinking of adding 1/3 bottle of friction modifier like silviapain did with his xt-m5-qs.

On another note I just swapped out my JBR PMM for a SURE PMM. Vibes are way way down. I can't tell if shifter quality is different - if anything it's a little looser than it was with the JBR. Not a big difference though.

^ What bushings did you use?

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Street bushings

I can imagine... switched from JBR RMM to Street Unit one - and same result, vibes are MUCH lower. Currently all my mounts are from SU - I love how car moves and shifts, but noise is a bit annoying at times.

Sorry to bump this semi-old thread. I have a JBR 70 duro RMM, and the Sure PMM. Vibrations and noise were fine with just the RMM, but I recently put the PMM in and I'm getting this weird oscillating noise from like 2,500-5000 RPM. Anybody heard of anything like this?

did you torque the longitudinal bolt that connects the two pieces together?

Nope, I'll check that as soon as I'm home!

Just bumping this for possibly a quick explanation.

The buzzing noise was definitely from the PMM. This wasn't there before I installed my ACT 6puck / prolite combo, so my best guess is that together they make some sort of weird oscillating noise lol.

I put my stock PMM in for now, I'll try out the JBR PMM and hope that is a bit better.

isnt there a ground on the PMM, is it making good contact?

It was to the best of my knowledge, do you think that could have be causing it? It was something that I felt through the whole car.

Oh when you said buzzing i was thinking of an electrical buzz.
you felt it through the whole RPM range

Yeah, it was a very odd noise. I mostly felt it when the car went over a bump or dip, felt like something was rubbing / vibrating against the chassis. The stock PMM seems to have alleviated the issue (or it just doesn't transmit it as strongly).

I'm still left scratching my head as the Sure unit didn't do it prior to the clutch / flywheel install. If something wasn't installed properly with the ACT unit I think I would have noticed by now (1500 miles later).