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| wow, the first AP disaster! Ok, so what happened before the the dreaded noise began to occur? That was what, 3 weeks ago or so?
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| Did you over rev it, causing the rod bearing to fail or to thick of oil?
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score It was raining and I wasnt in boost. This is one day after picking up my car from the shop with what was suspected as a clutch/flywheel issue. It had brand new oil in it.....I just checked the levels 10 days ago....same day as it started having problems. Yep I guess I am the first AP car....shitty. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score can u describe exactly what was happening from the point where u pulled out of gamestop to the rod going? like pulling out slow, what boost, what gear, what throttle..... P.S. dont forget to add yourself to the blown engine stickie
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Sorry to hear that, the bunch of us that guessed transmission were wrong. I will have to keep an ear out for this noise. Got me sweating now. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score damn it all. Well now it leaves one of us meth users to pop to realize no one is safe.... it has to be a tuning issue I run STUPID amounts of boost and race my car 4 nights a week. Damn t it seems like we're all on borrowed time....... Last edited by Darksun280; 11-11-2008 at 04:39 PM. |
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| Well you dont develop rod knock from any kind of tuning... rod bearing failure occurs when you over rev a car, lack of lubrication, to thick of oil. weak bearings from the get go, etc. Its very hard to isolate such incidents. Wassup brought up an interesting point about people using WOT boxes and the hell it can bring to a cylinder, lubrication, etc. I really hate seeing people blow because they usually ditch the platform and move on. We have some really cool people in this community and i hate seeing them go.
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$1100 on the clutch work and now this. I feel you pain. What MAP were you running when the noise started the first time?
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Check your dash hawk people aren't in closed loop as much as they think. its the O P and L and the bottom right of the 4 pid screens. I will say this though some weird shit happens around 2800-3400 rpms....... |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I always wait till 3000+ to punch it, but this scares me...badly.
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Code, P = Closed Loop with Problems, - = Data... I got that from NYpest You'll mainly see L when WOT, O on cold starts and O on decel out of gear and C on decel in gear I may have those last two mixed just check for yourself. when you cost out of gear and speed reaches like below 10-5 mph car switchs to O loop I believe so if your tooling around out of gear put it in gear and punch it you may get that weird transition crap. Same goes for a 30-40 2nd gear roll if your one of those dudes who like to cost in neutral then pop the clutch on the third honk. What I'm saying isn't set in stone but watch your hawk you'll see. | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I'm sorry to hear about all this. I think we all feel for you. It would be interesting to know what went wrong ... obviously something to do with that noise and engine wise it points to the thrust bearings if it was clutch related. Are you going to tear it down? |
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I feel bad that his engine blew, but thats alot of mods outside the spec of the cobb maps so i don't think you can blame the tune
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