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 Old 11-11-2008, 02:37 PM   #1
 
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Default There she blows!!!!

Well here is a final update on my car. At 1230pst I was exiting a local Game Stop after purchasing the new COD World at War(sweet game by the way) When KAAABBBOOOMMMM! Motor pops right around 3000rpm. I pull into at local bank and dont even need to inspect the damn thing I knew exactly what happened. But I did.....cylinder three has a nice hole on the backside. Fun stuff huh. So there you have it, problem solved. MrLilguy you were right but in my eyes it probably wouldnt have mattered. Such a shitty situation right now, I dont know what to do. I do know this I will be parting out every piece of my car minus the wheels, suspension and exhaust.

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wow, the first AP disaster! Ok, so what happened before the the dreaded noise began to occur? That was what, 3 weeks ago or so?
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dibs on ss and bushings
were you in boost at 3000rpm? partial throttle?
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dibs on ss and bushings
thats just wronggggggg
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Build up your motor! don't throw in the towel, reealy sorry to hear thought that reeeeally sucks
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thats awful to hear man.. what a shitty situation.
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Did you over rev it, causing the rod bearing to fail or to thick of oil?
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im still guessing low rpm, boost
im 100 confident that a 18psi k04 will blow this motor before a 18psi gt35
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This sucks. It looks like we have to build just to play.
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im still guessing low rpm, boost
im 100 confident that a 18psi k04 will blow this motor before a 18psi gt35
Well if you can make it past 6000 miles, than i will agree.
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It was raining and I wasnt in boost. This is one day after picking up my car from the shop with what was suspected as a clutch/flywheel issue. It had brand new oil in it.....I just checked the levels 10 days ago....same day as it started having problems. Yep I guess I am the first AP car....shitty.
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What are you gonna do? This is the first stock turbo CDFP upgraded car to pop right?
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that sucks
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wow man sorry to hear, but with bad luck comes good luck man
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I think there needs to be a class action lawsuit against mazda for putting in such shitty rods and engine mounts.
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can u describe exactly what was happening from the point where u pulled out of gamestop to the rod going? like pulling out slow, what boost, what gear, what throttle.....

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Sorry to hear that, the bunch of us that guessed transmission were wrong.

I will have to keep an ear out for this noise. Got me sweating now.
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scary stuff. this sucks man, sorry to hear it . any more details about the noises/incident?
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what map were you running?
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damn it all. Well now it leaves one of us meth users to pop to realize no one is safe....

it has to be a tuning issue I run STUPID amounts of boost and race my car 4 nights a week. Damn t it seems like we're all on borrowed time.......

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Well you dont develop rod knock from any kind of tuning...

rod bearing failure occurs when you over rev a car, lack of lubrication, to thick of oil. weak bearings from the get go, etc. Its very hard to isolate such incidents.

Wassup brought up an interesting point about people using WOT boxes and the hell it can bring to a cylinder, lubrication, etc. I really hate seeing people blow because they usually ditch the platform and move on. We have some really cool people in this community and i hate seeing them go.
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Originally Posted by Darksun280 View Post
damn it all. We'' now it leaves one of us meth users to pop to realize no one is safe....

it has to be a tuning issue I run STUPID amounts of boost and race my car 4 nights a week. Damn t it seems like we're all on borrowed time.......
if u read the blown engine stickie, 9/10 people were in closed loop when they went boom...
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Originally Posted by Haltech View Post
Well you dont develop rod knock from any kind of tuning...

rod bearing failure occurs when you over rev a car, lack of lubrication, to thick of oil. weak bearings from the get go, etc. Its very hard to isolate such incidents.

Wassup brought up an interesting point about people using WOT boxes and the hell it can bring to a cylinder, lubrication, etc. I really hate seeing people blow because they usually ditch the platform and move on. We have some really cool people in this community and i hate seeing them go.
Scott (IDRVSLO) is definitely one of the people you're talking about. Over the last year or so, I've gotten to know him, and it's really sad seeing this happen to him, he's had nothing but love for this car since day 1. I really hope this doesn't encourage him to get rid of the MS3, but I can understand why he would.
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Originally Posted by IDRVSLO View Post
It was raining and I wasnt in boost. This is one day after picking up my car from the shop with what was suspected as a clutch/flywheel issue. It had brand new oil in it.....I just checked the levels 10 days ago....same day as it started having problems. Yep I guess I am the first AP car....shitty.
Ouch,

$1100 on the clutch work and now this.
I feel you pain.

What MAP were you running when the noise started the first time?
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Originally Posted by superskaterxes View Post
if u read the blown engine stickie, 9/10 people were in closed loop when they went boom...
Check your dash hawk people aren't in closed loop as much as they think. its the O P and L and the bottom right of the 4 pid screens. I will say this though some weird shit happens around 2800-3400 rpms.......
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OUCHY! Sorry to hear that!
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I always wait till 3000+ to punch it, but this scares me...badly.
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Originally Posted by Darksun280 View Post
Check your dash hawk people aren't in closed loop as much as they think. its the O P and L and the bottom right of the 4 pid screens. I will say this though some weird shit happens around 2800-3400 rpms.......
I know I've seen it in another thread before, what what do the O, P, and L mean? I assume "O" is open, but the rest?
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Originally Posted by Speeed3 View Post
I know I've seen it in another thread before, what what do the O, P, and L mean? I assume "O" is open, but the rest?
Fuel System Status (C = Closed Loop, O = Open Loop, L = Open Loop due to Engine Load, F = Open Loop due to a Failure/Trouble
Code, P = Closed Loop with Problems, - = Data...

I got that from NYpest

You'll mainly see L when WOT, O on cold starts and O on decel out of gear and C on decel in gear I may have those last two mixed just check for yourself. when you cost out of gear and speed reaches like below 10-5 mph car switchs to O loop I believe so if your tooling around out of gear put it in gear and punch it you may get that weird transition crap. Same goes for a 30-40 2nd gear roll if your one of those dudes who like to cost in neutral then pop the clutch on the third honk. What I'm saying isn't set in stone but watch your hawk you'll see.
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Sorry about your motor.

crash the car and claim insurance. lol
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sorry to hear the bad news. keep me in mind on the part out. dibs on the pg manifold
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I'm sorry to hear about all this. I think we all feel for you. It would be interesting to know what went wrong ... obviously something to do with that noise and engine wise it points to the thrust bearings if it was clutch related.

Are you going to tear it down?
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that sucks and i feel for you but i call dibs on the corksport dp and rp
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Sorry about your motor.

crash the car and claim insurance. lol
lol whats he gona do roll it into a pole? id love to see someone total a car at 5mph lol
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Originally Posted by superskaterxes View Post
lol whats he gona do roll it into a pole? id love to see someone total a car at 5mph lol
We do have a lot of hills here in Seattle... hmmm


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The corksport has no cat, the cbe is custom vs. the common cobb/cpe, custom ic with unknown flow vs. the maps for cobb/cpe and an exhaust manifold.

I feel bad that his engine blew, but thats alot of mods outside the spec of the cobb maps so i don't think you can blame the tune
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The corksport has no cat, the cbe is custom vs. the common cobb/cpe, custom ic with unknown flow vs. the maps for cobb/cpe and an exhaust manifold.

I feel bad that his engine blew, but thats alot of mods outside the spec of the cobb maps so i don't think you can blame the tune
I think he worked with Christian to get a custom tune because of his liquid/air IC. So it's not a 100% OTS map.
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