Tired of blown engines/turbos? How about a CAL?

[MZRDISI4]

For the record there are a few stock failures, but that's just it.. a minimal amount, that and whenever you try to get some information out of anyone with a blown motor nothing seems to piece together correctly about their stories. Nothing solid to build a case against them on.

[BoostIsBetter]

Originally Posted by MZRDISI4 For the record there are a few stock failures, but that's just it.. a minimal amount, that and whenever you try to get some information out of anyone with a blown motor nothing seems to piece together correctly about their stories. Nothing solid to build a case against them on.

somebody show me these stock failures you speak off!

I'm getting sick and tired of hearing about stock failures on multiple threads, but nobody has actually shown a thread which shows that.

if a stock car did fail, they would gladly post all information up, including scanned copies of every mazda paper work they dealt with.

[MZRDISI4]

Originally Posted by BoostIsBetter somebody show me these stock failures you speak off! I'm getting sick and tired of hearing about stock failures on multiple threads, but nobody has actually shown a thread which shows that. if a stock car did fail, they would gladly post all information up, including scanned copies of every mazda paper work they dealt with.

No one has done that nor would anyone expect them to.

Have a rod knocking

^ stock engine failure. If you want to find these totally stock engine failures you'll have to look on all 3 Mazda boards something i'm not particularly interested in because I know what I read.

[Silver Ecstasy]

I know no one's really questioned my personal stance on the car, but i'm in no way, shape, or form interested in building a monster trailer queen out of my MS3. I just really think it's quite ridiculous to think that this car is just a total fucking mystery!

Mysterious smoking turbos, mysterious phantom knock and fuel, mysterious #3 cylinders exploding, what the FUCK. And as it's been said, so far those people who WERE modded, went back to stock. You can't honestly tell me that Mazda is fulfilling the warranty and ignoring the issue. These engines are pretty sophisticated, and the 2.3 has won awards for the past 4 years.

Hell, I even paid more to have MAZDASPEED parts. If I blow, I will be having a field day. But in the meantime, i'm having an absolute blast with the car. However, I won't be played as a fool by Mazda. And I won't be suckered into buying an extended warranty on a car that may just end up exploding at 36,001 miles.

The problem exists, it plagues enthusiasts and ignorants alike. And they range over 3 DIFFERENT VEHICLE PLATFORMS. That's pretty substantial, and HARDLY a damn minority in my eyes.

I even have a CX-7 in my household that gets driven normally with no regard, concern or knowledge that a problem even exists. And i'm sure there are plenty of people just like her that bought CX-7's and MS6's without a clue. Had I known, I would have definitely steered clear all together.

[MZRDISI4]

The problem is way blown out of proportion. I haven't seen one stock CX-7 blow up on the many forums I visit, just one heavily modded one that's on the record.

[lidokrantz]

the CX7 for 2010 does not even have the 2.3L turbo engine anymomre...normally aspirtated 2.5L now.....

[MZRDISI4]

It still has the 2.3L, you're uninformed. It's like the Mazda3 now. i-Models are of lesser HP and the s-Models are the turbo trim.

iSV/iSport - 2.5L / sTouring/sGrand Touring - 2.3L

[TegRacer324]

Originally Posted by phantom3 The "Flaw" only rears its ugly head when the car is modded. By your logic if I could get 700ph out of this car and crack the block, that would be a "Flaw". There is no mass "Flaw" in this car. It runs perfect with in factory parameters in stick trim. The only reason people are getting all uppity, is because Mazda didn't give us much to work with and they can't make 500hp stock. They times of 600hp supras/skylines on stock parts has passed. Manufacturing processes have become more refined in the past decade. Manufactures can build a car with tighter tolerances closer to the yield of the material they are using. To put it bluntly, there's little room without upgrading components.

I agree with this. If they designed and manufactured the car with a Factor of Safety of 1.2 on it's weakest part and your bolted up parts bring it down to less than 1 and it fails how is that a flaw? The car does what it's designed to do. No one has any idea what kind of power the engine was designed for. Unless you see a massive amount of totally stock cars blowing up this idea is totally out in left field.