Torque Solution Rear Motor Mount

[IshiKage]

yeah, but im still sure the vibes are no where close to those of the TRZ. i had the TRZ, fuck that mount. the car sounding like it was going to fall apart.

but the TS and SURE sound like they are producing around the same amount of vibes. which i dont notice unless i turn on the a/c which still isnt bad

[MSMS3]

TRZ = Sybian (Google if you don't know) for GF.

[IshiKage]

haha. i knew there had to be a reason why i felt like i was being violated every time i drove my car with that mount

[dkapetansky]

Originally Posted by MSMS3 I just installed the SURE mount, purchased from SU. Only have about 20 miles on it. I hope it settles in and softens up a bit with use, because the vibes are there, even though the center bushing is large. I was surprised that the stock mount still looked pristine, although the rubber had clearly softened and the engine was rocking quite a bit. I got 48,000 hard miles out of that mother, with a lot of tracking and a ton of hard practice launches, so can't call it a POS. I ordered the street version and was a little surprised at the vibes. I don't know what the stiffness (durometer) rating is, but it's stiffer than I thought it would be. Good news, and this is probably the case with the Torque Solution, which looks almost identical, is that this absolutely stopped the wheel hop on launch and I made several successful 2-3 flatshifts this a.m. on the way to work. Before I could only do that half the time. Bound to help my shitty 60 ft's. some. I just hope the vibes do settle down a bit. It's more than just at idle with the A/C on. It is coarse when decelerating and during light throttle. Not quite a GF orgasmatron, though.

I just installed the SURE mount, purchased directly from their Web site. I only have a little over 300 miles on it. I hope it settles in and softens up a bit with further use, because the vibes are discernible, even though the center bushing is large.

I ordered the street version and was a little surprised at the vibes; it's firmer than I thought it would be.

The good news is that it has absolutely eliminated the previous drivetrain lash & windup, even with the side engine mounts still stock. I just hope the vibes do settle down with more miles. It's more than just at idle with the A/C on. It is especially noticeable at low rpm- it doesn't dampen engine lugging much.

[TRex]

my TS mount just came in the mail yesterday...will post up impressions this weekend.

[TRex]

installed....had a little trouble getting it in...would have been nicer if the cut out had been a tad longer....but overall not at all bothered by the vibes...very minimal and only periodic...also put in my jb shift plate at the same time so shifting is a breeze now with both

[IshiKage]

TS FTW

[chumpsteak]

Just ordered the torque solutions mount as my Medieval mount feels like it shit the bed. Thanks for the heads up!

[IshiKage]

loving mine. feels great.

[myt_tuf1]

Mine's on it's way... Thanks for the introduction and reviews.

[tddvrrn]

Originally Posted by 240mazspd3 loving mine. feels great.

all right, you went from the trz to the torque sport and are loving it, yes?
i am getting a bit tired of extreme vibes when down shifting and such. it's still kinda nice to here the car snarl like a beast..

anyway, what i don't want to give up is that connected, solid feel. is the ts mount solid in that department? that's what i need, just less vibes please.

thanks for the info..

[myt_tuf1]

Great mount! Got mine in the mail today and took me about an hour to install (I'm coming from the CS RMM inserts, which I never had a problem with, and were pretty sturdy themselves, I just wanted something a little more solid). The TS RMM is definitely more solid, the engine feels planted, and no wheel-hop at all. Vibrations are very minimal, you can feel them in the steering wheel (only when stopped at idle), and they're a little more noticeable when the a/c or defrost is on. Although there are minimal vibes, there weren't any new noises that resulted in the cabin.

Overall first impression: solid mount, minimal vibes, definitely helps put the power to the wheels without hop, worth the $130 price tag.

[IshiKage]

Originally Posted by tddvrrn all right, you went from the trz to the torque sport and are loving it, yes? i am getting a bit tired of extreme vibes when down shifting and such. it's still kinda nice to here the car snarl like a beast.. anyway, what i don't want to give up is that connected, solid feel. is the ts mount solid in that department? that's what i need, just less vibes please. thanks for the info..

its solid, totally connected and much more forgiving so dont worry. fuck that TRZ. i went from the medieval to the trz, to SU to TS...did i say fuck the TRZ? fuck that shit

[tddvrrn]

Originally Posted by 240mazspd3 its solid, totally connected and much more forgiving so dont worry. fuck that TRZ. i went from the medieval to the trz, to SU to TS...did i say fuck the TRZ? fuck that shit

so you don't like the trz then? haha.
you're comments are what have me looking at other mounts. the noise in the cabin from the trz is getting a bit much..
so, out of all the mounts you've tried, what seems to offer the best performance/low noise level balance? you seem psyched on the ts one..

slightly different topic: since you weren't liking the trz vibes/noise, how do you like their trans mount? i was considering that, but the reviews said it brought even more noise into the cabin, but no more vibes.. you seem to share cabin noise level expectations with me, just thought i'd ask. thanks!

[08.5MS3]

Originally Posted by tddvrrn so you don't like the trz then? haha. you're comments are what have me looking at other mounts. the noise in the cabin from the trz is getting a bit much.. so, out of all the mounts you've tried, what seems to offer the best performance/low noise level balance? you seem psyched on the ts one.. slightly different topic: since you weren't liking the trz vibes/noise, how do you like their trans mount? i was considering that, but the reviews said it brought even more noise into the cabin, but no more vibes.. you seem to share cabin noise level expectations with me, just thought i'd ask. thanks!

I know a lot of people are shunning cp-e now because of their price, however, I went from the TRZ to the cp-e 75 and it was a world of difference. Less vibes, easier/crisper shifts (less lash in between shifts), and still connected.

I also have the TRZ trans mount. I fucking love that thing. With the cp-e rear and TRZ trans the vibes are not bad, they are there but less so than with the TRZ rear. The TRZ was an orgasmatron for the ladies.

Also, with the trans mount, you will hear a lot of chatter from the flywheel as well as engagement of all the gears. Sounds like shit is broken, but it's not.

I'm no engineer, but common sense would say that the more bushing, the less vibes; because all of the energy is being transferred into the bushing. That said, cp-e, SURE, and Torque Solution all offer mounts with a large bushing, with cp-e being EPDM and the other two being polyurethane.

In my opinion, all are viable options and should offer similar benefits. But take a hard look at both the TS and SURE mounts as they are priced competitively.

***on a side note, those with the TRZ trans mount...when in reverse, when disengaging from after you reverse (move), do you hear a click noise? It's 2 clicks. Everything feels and operates smoothly, but I hear these clicks and ONLY when in reverse. I've had the mount on since June 2010 with no problems and I can't remember if I've always heard this.***


Tapatalk

[surebOOst]

Haven't got a rmm yet but have been waiting to hear more opinions on the SURE, TRZ, and the CPE. Didn't know TS had one and now that i do and reading how kickass it is i think ima get this one. Just one question cause i looked on the site and didn't see any specifications about which gen it was for. Does it fit guaranteed on the gen2? if so them ima buy nxt week.

[IshiKage]

i have personally had the TRZ, still have the SU alum with the street bushing and now the TS. as for the TRZ, FUCK THAT SHIT. haha

between the SU, TS and CPE, id say they are all comparable. but the CPE is so expensive now so fuck that shit.

the TS vibes alittle more than the SU did, IMO. but they perform nearly the same.

if someone wants my SU RMM with the street bushing, ill sell for 80 shipped. jump on it Sure boost

Originally Posted by surebOOst Haven't got a rmm yet but have been waiting to hear more opinions on the SURE, TRZ, and the CPE. Didn't know TS had one and now that i do and reading how kickass it is i think ima get this one. Just one question cause i looked on the site and didn't see any specifications about which gen it was for. Does it fit guaranteed on the gen2? if so them ima buy nxt week.

all parts for MS3 are interchangeable between both gens except for cbe, fmic and CAIs

[skiptowncat]

just ordered mine, can't wait!!

[chumpsteak]

Installed this mount today and let me just say that I'm a friggin idiot for not doing it sooner. I've felt like my medievil mount want worn for some time now, but I had no idea how bad it was. As soon as I removed it the bushings fell out.

This new TS mount is awesome. Car feels as good as or better than new again. It was wet when I test drove it, but I had zero wheel hop and the car feels so much more solid now. Vibrations increased a little at idle, but are actually less in my car at speed because my motor isn't rocking back and forth anymore. Can't wait until TS has the other mounts available, I'm getting 'em.

Thanks for the heads up on this mount!

[TRex]

^are they even making the other mounts....?

[tddvrrn]

Originally Posted by 240mazspd3 i have personally had the TRZ, still have the SU alum with the street bushing and now the TS. as for the TRZ, FUCK THAT SHIT. haha between the SU, TS and CPE, id say they are all comparable. but the CPE is so expensive now so fuck that shit. the TS vibes alittle more than the SU did, IMO. but they perform nearly the same. if someone wants my SU RMM with the street bushing, ill sell for 80 shipped. jump on it Sure boost CAIs

is the su rmm still solid? i'll buy if the bushing is still seated well and isn't cracked...
with it being quieter, do you feel you lose performance over trz or ts? for $80 i'm willing to check it..

[IshiKage]

already sold the SU

[2008MS3H]

so i just received my torq solutions rmm and am ready for install - i was looking around but i can't find the thread again - someone did a write up on this part and had the install instructions in there - has anyone seen that thread? i am still looking but thought i would "reach out and touch faith"

let me know if anyone remembers this thread

thanks so much

[TRex]

dont think there was one specific to this mount...other than 240's thread....

but this is a good site for install info

Krystm's Garage – Mazda 3 Mods and More! » Tutorials

[08.5MS3]

Install is not hard.

Jack up car.
Place on jack stands.
Remove old mount.
Re-install with new TS mount.
Use Loc-tite.
Torque to around 90 ft/lbs.
Jack up car.
Remove jack stands.
Carefully lower car.
Take for a drive.
After a few miles (whether it be 10 or 500), re-torque.

[2008MS3H]

Originally Posted by 08.5MS3 Install is not hard. Jack up car. Place on jack stands. Remove old mount. Re-install with new TS mount. Use Loc-tite. Torque to around 90 ft/lbs. Jack up car. Remove jack stands. Carefully lower car. Take for a drive. After a few miles (whether it be 10 or 500), re-torque.

awesome thanks so much for the help

[08.5MS3]

Custom Performance Engineering Billet Motor Mount System

This will help as well. Pages 2-3. The install guide I received from cp-e said 90 ft/lbs. Lenny used 75 ft/lbs. I have the service manual, I can look it up for you. Give me a second to find it.

[2008MS3H]

@TRex
@08.5MS3

thanks to both of your for the help - obviously new so i want to make sure i'm doing it right

EDIT: i plan on doing the install this weekend

[2008MS3H]

Originally Posted by 08.5MS3 There will be vibrations. You're placing a polyurethane bushing where this POS use to sit. Just the nature of the beast.

i just changed my stock RMM to the torq solutions last night and have noticed some vibrations when i am in lower rpm (mostly when i am just idling)
from what i have been reading, that is to be expected correct?

[tddvrrn]

^yes, totally expected. it will change as the bushing breaks in, usually becoming smoother over time. you'll probably notice the vibes jump up periodically when you have the a/c or fan on. that's also to be expected.

aftermarket rmm's are awesome, eh?

[2008MS3H]

Originally Posted by tddvrrn ^yes, totally expected. it will change as the bushing breaks in, usually becoming smoother over time. you'll probably notice the vibes jump up periodically when you have the a/c or fan on. that's also to be expected. aftermarket rmm's are awesome, eh?

oh yeah no doubt. i'm pretty pumped about it. i read just about everyone has experienced the same thing - it just sounds like i need to put some miles on it and let it kinda work itself in.

thanks for the insight - just cant be to sure about this kind of stuff - i'm protective of my car lol. the funny thing is, i am waiting for the dealership to get me the title so i can register the car, but i have already gotten the rmm installed and the windows tinted....

[tddvrrn]

awesome!
wait until you get an intake (sri or cai), then there is more power!
this is the first car i've ever modded, and it has been damn fun. this site has so much info. be careful, if you've never modded before, it seems to be addictive.

[2008MS3H]

yeah kinda like tattoos i guess hahah
i am looking at the corksport sri but it will be a little bit before i do that - they are somewhat pricy

[TriO]

just ordered mine.

[2008MS3H]

Originally Posted by TriO just ordered mine.

install was easy - the factory bolts that were on my car were REALLY on there and it took a little bit to get those loose but once i did, piece of cake from there

i noticed some vibes that i referenced earlier in this thread but those have all but gone away. i notice them randomly while i idle or when i have the ac on - other than that, great replacement.

big thanks to @TRex and @08.5MS3 for the tips for easy install

[spec2k5]

Originally Posted by TriO just ordered mine.

Why would you pay more for a TS mount when you can get a JBR for less and support a MSF vendor too?

[Speed3eak]

Originally Posted by chumpsteak Installed this mount today and let me just say that I'm a friggin idiot for not doing it sooner. I've felt like my medievil mount want worn for some time now, but I had no idea how bad it was. As soon as I removed it the bushings fell out. This new TS mount is awesome. Car feels as good as or better than new again. It was wet when I test drove it, but I had zero wheel hop and the car feels so much more solid now. Vibrations increased a little at idle, but are actually less in my car at speed because my motor isn't rocking back and forth anymore. Can't wait until TS has the other mounts available, I'm getting 'em. Thanks for the heads up on this mount!

So I noticed you had a medieval mount... Do you know anybody who had one of their passenger motor mounts that failed? I ask because "Minerva Motorworkz" on ebay is gaining popularity here with rebranded medieval mounts and I was curious as to the quality of the mounts themselves. I ask because apparently their issue was with customer service and people are claiming now that minerva is a bunch more responsive.

Anyway, for all those reading this, go JBarone...

Originally Posted by spec2k5 Why would you pay more for a TS mount when you can get a JBR for less and support a MSF vendor too?

Because of this.

[IshiKage]

Originally Posted by spec2k5 Why would you pay more for a TS mount when you can get a JBR for less and support a MSF vendor too?

Because its his choice to. Notice this is a TS thread just incase you missed it

[spec2k5]

Originally Posted by 240mazspd3 Because its his choice to. Notice this is a TS thread just incase you missed it

I didn't miss it. I just think Jbarone is superior to all the rest. Jbarone has been coming out with some great products and I just wanted to know why he would go TS and not support Jbarone, who happens to be one of the many great MSF vendors.

[TRex]

when this thread was first started JB's mount was not out yet....that being said i bought it because it was at the time cheapest and best looking mount (imo) on the market...as for others....personal preference i guess...JB has a good looking mount...so does TS....so does CPE