TRZ tranny mount I HAVE ONE !!

[TRU-BOOST]

my impressions so far.....
WOW...AMAZING !! i thought when i got the lower mount i had a solid driveline, well trust me it got WAYYYY better. the engine/tranny stability now is rock solid. even my every day normal slow driving has improved. i have never been able to consistanly shift this car smoothly. now with the side mount it is smooth as glass ! you can actually feel the clutch working now. and there is no lash in the driveline. vibration was surpisinlg minimal. between this and the TRZ poly lower mount i expected it to be HARSH, but it really isnt at all. easily daily driveable. although the vibration is minimal there are many more sounds/ noises to be heard now. you can hear how mutch these wonderfull mazda clutches chatter when at idle, you can hear the clutch disk grab and release as well as feel it in the pedal. the most noticable noise though is the gear whine. the faster you go the louder it gets. never to the point it is unbearable but its sure there. the reason is simply because that big fat sloppy rubber mount that was absorbing all this is no longer there. i love it. it is a whole new car to drive at this point.
i got a pic of it partially installed for you guys. it is typical TRZ....a very basic UNBREAKABLE design. it also uses a THICK ASS washer as a failsafe. if by some miricle the bushing fails there is a solid steel plate waser that is under the bolthead that will prevent the engine from dropping to the ground.
look............

[FCmaniac]

sweet

[wisniaPl]

you hear ger whine...so now it sound like a race car :p I want one but im waiting to get one with upgraded bracket that goes between tranny and this mount....

[TRU-BOOST]

i THINK TRZ will offer the tripod bracket but i am not sure. in all honesty i dont think it is needed. i know several owners have broken that part, but that is due to the stock mount. the stock mount is so sloppy and gets so much movement that it puts a lot of impact strain on that piece. once you eliminate all that slop i think that the tripod piece is plenty strong. its like removing a rusty bolt. if you apply 100ft lbs. to a ratchet by hand you will never get it loose. but if you take that same 100ft lbs. and apply it with an impact gun it will break it loose. but hey i guess it wont hurt to be safe if they do sell it !

[Grim]

would you say it is less harsh than having a trz delrin on?If so im all game for this mount.

[TRU-BOOST]

it is hard for me to say what this mount alone would feel like or if it was used with another brand lower mount. i can say with the poly lower mount and this it feels about the same as the delrin mount when used by itself. which some think is harsh but i do not. like i said there is more noise gained, the added vibs are minimal. actually my low rpm vibrations seem to be better than before.

you can get yours soon too !! the call went in to TRZ to tell them that the fitment is perfect. it will probably be a few weeks before the first batch is ready. the plates get laser cut off of a CAD drawing made by TRZ, then they get sent off for powder coating. the last step is when TRZ gets them back. they press in the sleeves and bushings and ship them to PG !!!

[ms3jake]

How long to install?

[Phantom]

I am for sure looking at one of these.

[kopf]

Fuck, I need to start robbing banks to pay for my parts habit...

[Strytnyne]

lol my tranyy and clutch already makes alot of noise without one =p wonder how it would be if i got it

[TRU-BOOST]

Originally Posted by ms3jake How long to install?

for your first time doing it...expect it to take an hour or so. i have it down to about a 15 min process now !

1) jack up the driverside of the car and support it with a jackstand.
2) use the jack to support the tranny
3) remove the battery, battery box, and ECU
4) remove the vibration damper and other bracketry
5) remove the OEM mount

then put thr TRZ mount in and follow those steps backwards !!

[bani]

i'll wait for a softer mount, thanks but no thanks.

a solid piece of metal... i already have enough vibes in my car i don't need more...

[TRU-BOOST]

whatever you say. you see what happens to the "softer lower mounts right....?? torn up and broken...AWR...CP-E ....SU they all have numerous documented failures. and trust me when a side mount lets go you get more than just a clunk when you drive. once that bad boy lets go your engine is in the street !

[crazyitalian041]

Originally Posted by TRU-BOOST whatever you say. you see what happens to the "softer lower mounts right....?? torn up and broken...AWR...CP-E ....SU they all have numerous documented failures. and trust me when a side mount lets go you get more than just a clunk when you drive. once that bad boy lets go your engine is in the street !

Nothing catastrophic on cp-e's...

[wisniaPl]

Originally Posted by bani i'll wait for a softer mount, thanks but no thanks. a solid piece of metal... i already have enough vibes in my car i don't need more...

i like my vibes....im feeling like driving race car:p.....but serious;y i rather have more vibes than motor on the street

[bani]

my car rattles enough, dont need more. i like to keep my fillings in my teeth, thanks.

theres ways to make mounts that arent solid hunks of metal that have non catastrophic failure modes.

[Haltech]

Well there are reasons people who race or build cars use solid motor mounts... To each their own.. ill take a solid mount with vibes than having my engine fall, causing the block and transmission case to crack.

[boosted3]

when r they shipping out.

[BreakTheStatic]

Oh man, I'm so on this when it comes out. I love my dogbone!

[Addikted To Boost]

I just installed mine about twenty minutes ago... man what a difference in shifting... But i have to say at first i was a little taken aback at the vibes comin through all three of my pedals but after a few minutes of beating on it up and down the road it seems to have settled in there pretty good. One quick question for you guys though, When i was installing it i could not for the life of me get the back two bolts (towards the rear of the car) to get lined up dead center in the big holes that TRZ used.... The front two were centered up fine but i tried budging it with my arm adjusting my jack position twenty seven different ways, tryin to roll the jack back some, but nothing would get those two bolts centered... I tried jackin the front of the trans, the middle, the trans and the motor, but still no luck. Do you guys think this will cause any problems its only about an eighth of an inch were talkin about so i'm not really worried but i just figured i would ask... the final position of the thing looked just like how TRU-BOOST's mount looks in that pic up there with the two rear bolts positioned in the corners towards the rear and towards the center of the car. I dont think TRZ would have used such big holes if it was really important that the mount be centered but I figured I would ask some opinions... Anyways, shifting is fucking awesome now and i think i can get to like the race car like feel.

You are only solving half the problem. YOu are taking out the movement of the engine but the bottom part of the mount is failing. This mount continues to use the aluminum base that is getting striped threads.

[Addikted To Boost]

Originally Posted by Young Roids You are only solving half the problem. YOu are taking out the movement of the engine but the bottom part of the mount is failing. This mount continues to use the aluminum base that is getting striped threads.

I was pretty careful threading the bolt back into the tripod mount when installing it... I cranked down on that baby pretty good and i probably put somewhere close to 100ft lbs of torque on it and nothing got stripped. The reason people's lower part of this mount was breaking is because of the stock POS rubber mount above it not the strength of the tripod mount itself. But Ken at PG is sending me the Tripod Mount for free when TRZ finally releases it because i was one of the first ones to purchase it so I will put that one when i get it.

Originally Posted by Addikted To Boost But Ken at PG is sending me the Tripod Mount for free when TRZ finally releases it because i was one of the first ones to purchase it so I will put that one when i get it.

so trz is going to make a bottom part?

[Addikted To Boost]

Originally Posted by Young Roids so trz is going to make a bottom part?

Yes indeed, according to Ken At Protege Garage, I just emailed him and asked him about a status report.

That proves my point then the mount is incomplete.

[Addikted To Boost]

"All posts made by Young Roids are for entertainment purposes only. Young Roids is a fictitious character and all statements made do not reflect the views of the account holder."

Indeed

[TRU-BOOST]

Originally Posted by Addikted To Boost I just installed mine about twenty minutes ago... man what a difference in shifting... But i have to say at first i was a little taken aback at the vibes comin through all three of my pedals but after a few minutes of beating on it up and down the road it seems to have settled in there pretty good. One quick question for you guys though, When i was installing it i could not for the life of me get the back two bolts (towards the rear of the car) to get lined up dead center in the big holes that TRZ used.... The front two were centered up fine but i tried budging it with my arm adjusting my jack position twenty seven different ways, tryin to roll the jack back some, but nothing would get those two bolts centered... I tried jackin the front of the trans, the middle, the trans and the motor, but still no luck. Do you guys think this will cause any problems its only about an eighth of an inch were talkin about so i'm not really worried but i just figured i would ask... the final position of the thing looked just like how TRU-BOOST's mount looks in that pic up there with the two rear bolts positioned in the corners towards the rear and towards the center of the car. I dont think TRZ would have used such big holes if it was really important that the mount be centered but I figured I would ask some opinions... Anyways, shifting is fucking awesome now and i think i can get to like the race car like feel.

The holes are fine bud. Thats why the are that big. They are a PITA to line up! As long as the studs are in there you are all good.

[bioevolve]

Sweet!
You shouldn't have to jack up the car, just jack on the tranny and support it right?

[badams118]

Originally Posted by Young Roids That proves my point then the mount is incomplete.

I think you are wrong. I removed the entire mount, & bolted in the TRZ. The tranny bolts to the big metal plate (the TRZ mount) which bolts to the frame. That shit is going nowhere.

[TRU-BOOST]

Originally Posted by bioevolve Sweet! You shouldn't have to jack up the car, just jack on the tranny and support it right?

Corretamundo!

[Addikted To Boost]

I put mine on ramps cuz i wanted to take off the lower plastic plate thingy and used a board to distribute the weight of the trans across it...

Originally Posted by badams118 I think you are wrong. I removed the entire mount, & bolted in the TRZ. The tranny bolts to the big metal plate (the TRZ mount) which bolts to the frame. That shit is going nowhere.

That is all the top of the mount I am speaking of the bottom aluminum hole that the bolt threads into.

[steven88]

will the trz tripod bracket be real beefy?

[TRU-BOOST]

I didnt even remove the platstic tray. I just used my jack to supprt the trans right were the lower mount connects. It worked fine.

[badams118]

Originally Posted by Young Roids That is all the top of the mount I am speaking of the bottom aluminum hole that the bolt threads into.

From what I could tell, that's part of the tranny case?


On a side note, I threw a couple rubber washers on either side of the mount plate. It's not night & day, but it does help with the NVH somewhat. At least you are no longer bolting metal direct to metal. You can find them cheap at Lowes.

[Addikted To Boost]

Originally Posted by badams118 From what I could tell, that's part of the tranny case? On a side note, I threw a couple rubber washers on either side of the mount plate. It's not night & day, but it does help with the NVH somewhat. At least you are no longer bolting metal direct to metal. You can find them cheap at Lowes.

thats a good idea, and after about a hundred or so miles of driving now i really love this mount it feels like a totally different car. The only annoying thing is when you get into the upper rpms it really screams like a damn race car and the vibes pick up a good amount. I will give the rubber washers a try that might help a bit, and as for the tripod mount, a couple people have had them break at the track and stuff but thats because the stock drivers side mount is so damn soft and let the trans move around so much.

Originally Posted by badams118 From what I could tell, that's part of the tranny case?

Wrong, it's an aluminum bracket held in place by three bolts.

[badams118]

Originally Posted by Young Roids Wrong, it's an aluminum bracket held in place by three bolts.

The one the battery box bolts to? There is zero movement there; I dont see how that piece could break with the new mount.

the one on the left

[Addikted To Boost]

Yea we know which one you are talkin about, and what we are trying to tell you is that that piece is not gonna break with a solid mount on top because there is no movement like in the stock mount.