We're getting somewhere ...

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by boardjnky4 Contributed to the end user, like driving their car? I don't get it, people build fast cars and then go around preaching that they're supposed to be babied? Fuck that, I've owned quite a few quick cars. I beat the piss out of all of them(300zx, turbo civic, 350z, speed3). If driving it hard is the reason it is blowing up, then it's a POS motor. As far as maintenance goes, what is there to it? Routine oil changes usually get done in the tuner community, other than that, what is there to maintain? These cars are practically new. We're not talking about 15 year old DSMs here. My car has less than 30k miles on it. It should require ZERO maintenance other than oil changes. While there are plenty of dumb owners, I am sure, but that should not count towards the percentage of failures seen here. There is one (or more) design flaw that is introducing this...It COULD be something simple(like a shitty PCV), or it could be something major, like the fundamental theory of Direct Injection. EDIT: BTW, my mazdaspeed3 sees 5.5-6k RPMs EVERY day

Like I said I'll post my thread when I finish my logs as well. It's not the typical maintenance I'm referring to. You'll see what I mean. Plus, I never said you have to drive the car like a bitch. I drive my car the way this car should be driven. I go WOT all the time, partial throttle when I need to, etc, etc- it's not what kills these engines.

I never ever had a problem with my car. Look for my thread soon I'll explain everything there.

[Thestaplegunkid]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch Like I said I'll post my thread when I finish my logs as well. It's not the typical maintenance I'm referring to. You'll see what I mean. Plus, I never said you have to drive the car like a bitch. I drive my car the way this car should be driven. I go WOT all the time, partial throttle when I need to, etc, etc- it's not what kills these engines. I never ever had a problem with my car. Look for my thread soon I'll explain everything there.

Well Fuck me, I can't wait to hear what I did to blow my motor up. This is truly GREAT news indeed.

Just a note I too "never ever had a problem with my car" until it blew the fuck up one day.

[8.5MS3]

Just curious on what facts and evidence you are going to present that will completely sway us to take your thoughts as gospel, and, at the same time completely disprove all other theories/possible causes for engine failures since everyone here is so obviously wrong.

I guess mazda totally fucked up the maintenance manual as well as the engine......

Not trying to instigate a pissing match but based on your attitude towards the efforts of others, what makes you think its not going to be the exact same reaction towards you?

[QuickSpool]

What if we had a piston made with a deflection ridge. If you looked at Matt's injector spray pic make a higher area on the opposite side to deflect the fuel upwards. I am not an engineer, just throwing out an idea.

[Thestaplegunkid]

Originally Posted by QuickSpool What if we had a piston made with a deflection ridge. If you looked at Matt's injector spray pic make a higher area on the opposite side to deflect the fuel upwards. I am not an engineer, just throwing out an idea.

Funny you should mention that, I was just reading an article the other day in Hot Rod magazine... and they had an article on "Direct injection" and the first picture they showed was a comparison between the "PI piston" (dished normal... like ours) and a "DI Piston" (a fancy... almost lacrosse looking type piston top. It had a ridge that directed the gas upwards into the combustion chamber)

[8.5MS3]

The piston in the new ecoboost engine

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by Thestaplegunkid Well Fuck me, I can't wait to hear what I did to blow my motor up. This is truly GREAT news indeed. Just a note I too "never ever had a problem with my car" until it blew the fuck up one day.

Yeah, that's the problem right there. When I post my thread as to the biggest contribution to why these small amount of engines blew everyone is going to go on the defense and proclaim that they did everything that accordingly, that they're good drivers, etc.

And in the end the majority will still disagree with me and look into lalaland for reasons why engines blow- that's what I see happening.

Truth of the matter is- the reason when I say it's caused by the end-user- it's NOT due to crazy driving or "bitch" driving as some of you have put it. It's a car, a machine, it's made to go WOT and it's made to go part throttle.

Speculation and theories that we shouldn't drive this car on part throttle and that we should go into boost here and there during long drives (40min-1hour?) drives- is just nonsense.

You couldn't have said so better yourself "I never had a problem with my car, until it blew the fuck up one day" yup. That's because the problem is caused over time. Obviously that is not to say that if you do stress the limitations of this engine it's not going to snap a rod or seize the piston because it will just like with any other engine. The problem here is the fact that it's DI- it makes the whole platform more sensitive as your PI platform- give or take.

Originally Posted by 8.5MS3 Just curious on what facts and evidence you are going to present that will completely sway us to take your thoughts as gospel, and, at the same time completely disprove all other theories/possible causes for engine failures since everyone here is so obviously wrong. I guess mazda totally fucked up the maintenance manual as well as the engine...... Not trying to instigate a pissing match but based on your attitude towards the efforts of others, what makes you think its not going to be the exact same reaction towards you?

I guess they did, huh? Who said I disprove ALL other theories? I'm sorry but unless I know you personally and/or I know you're an certified automotive/engine technician with experience under your belt- majority of what was and is being posted is nothing but online kids "talk"

I guess that's the reason why my buddies never join online forums or those who do don't get involved in threads like this because they know kids like to talk- which is nothing but talk. You got people who install a SRI and they think their automotive technicians/experts.

Regardless, I know it's going to be nothing more then that. Bottom line is you know what it all comes down too? I don't have to say a word that I perhaps may be correct- I honestly don't.

In the next few months more engines will blow- especially those who currently are on the verge of breaking due to damage already done not by driving like a maniac or a "bitch" but something else- which I don't care to mention yet.

Regardless, seeing how some people are extremely thick headed and when you "speak the truth" you get nothing but bitch on because they can't accept the truth I guess I'll sit back for the next few cold harsh winter month- watch a few good amount of engines blow and turn and look at mine and know that it's running just perfectly fine- till the day I really do push it beyond it's stock operating tolerances- but why would I do that?

Should have build the engine first folks.

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch ... In the next few months more engines will blow- especially those who currently are on the verge of breaking due to damage already done not by driving like a maniac or a "bitch" but something else- which I don't care to mention yet. ...

Your a meat ball.


and slowly turning into a meat dick.




Fuck you and your snotty arrogant king of the hill attitude. Don't want to share your knowledge with us? Fine, most of us have had more than enough already. Get off the internet and go circle jerk your tricky 12" with your non-internet friends.

Seriously, wtf is your problem.



This thread turned into shit. Thanks for your contributions.

[Laloosh]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch Yeah, that's the problem right there. When I post my thread as to the biggest contribution to why these small amount of engines blew everyone is going to go on the defense and proclaim that they did everything that accordingly, that they're good drivers, etc. And in the end the majority will still disagree with me and look into lalaland for reasons why engines blow- that's what I see happening. Truth of the matter is- the reason when I say it's caused by the end-user- it's NOT due to crazy driving or "bitch" driving as some of you have put it. It's a car, a machine, it's made to go WOT and it's made to go part throttle. Speculation and theories that we shouldn't drive this car on part throttle and that we should go into boost here and there during long drives (40min-1hour?) drives- is just nonsense. You couldn't have said so better yourself "I never had a problem with my car, until it blew the fuck up one day" yup. That's because the problem is caused over time. Obviously that is not to say that if you do stress the limitations of this engine it's not going to snap a rod or seize the piston because it will just like with any other engine. The problem here is the fact that it's DI- it makes the whole platform more sensitive as your PI platform- give or take. I guess they did, huh? Who said I disprove ALL other theories? I'm sorry but unless I know you personally and/or I know you're an certified automotive/engine technician with experience under your belt- majority of what was and is being posted is nothing but online kids "talk" I guess that's the reason why my buddies never join online forums or those who do don't get involved in threads like this because they know kids like to talk- which is nothing but talk. You got people who install a SRI and they think their automotive technicians/experts. Regardless, I know it's going to be nothing more then that. Bottom line is you know what it all comes down too? I don't have to say a word that I perhaps may be correct- I honestly don't. In the next few months more engines will blow- especially those who currently are on the verge of breaking due to damage already done not by driving like a maniac or a "bitch" but something else- which I don't care to mention yet. Regardless, seeing how some people are extremely thick headed and when you "speak the truth" you get nothing but bitch on because they can't accept the truth I guess I'll sit back for the next few cold harsh winter month- watch a few good amount of engines blow and turn and look at mine and know that it's running just perfectly fine- till the day I really do push it beyond it's stock operating tolerances- but why would I do that? Should have build the engine first folks.

shit, are we related? some who accepts things for what the are......amazing

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn Your a meat ball. and slowly turning into a meat dick. Fuck you and your snotty arrogant king of the hill attitude. Don't want to share your knowledge with us? Fine, most of us have had more than enough already. Get off the internet and go circle jerk your tricky 12" with your non-internet friends. Seriously, wtf is your problem.

I guess I have your attention. Snotty, arrogant? No, not me. You got me all wrong. There's quite a few good people on here with good knoweldge and there's the other bunch who jump on the horse dick wagon and do nothing but talk shit because they think they know it all- those are the turds I don't want to share anything with because in all honestly half the shit they say is pulled straight out their asses.

You got Jon Doe who saw a "how to" on a fuel pump internals and he thinks he's an expert on engines. It honestly is hard to not be a dick (if that's how I come off) but I'm the type that I'll speak my mind and if 10 online user (on the other side of the country get mad) you honestly think I'm going to lose sleep over it?

When I make my thread it's going to end up just like all these other threads. First few pages of discussion regarding that issue then all the rest is bitching.

Honestly, how can you pitty the fool who blew his engine when after installing just a SRI he get's a code for miss-fire? What do you do to fuck that up? Then, you see people like that come into threads like this talking about "how the piston on this car was designed with flaws" and that "it should have been designed this or that way"

I'm sorry but if you can't do simple bolt ons you have no place in posting stupid theories about system flaw because there isn't any. And if there was certainly that person should be the last turn to be making any suggestions.

BLAH, whatever, I'm busy for the next few days. I'll get my shit organized for the thread so we keep the bitching (including myself) to a minimum and I'll post it up in the next few days.

This thread turned into shit. Thanks for your contributions.

Just like every single other thread on this subject.

[Deadman]

Hopefully my car is sold within the next few days LOL

[NRSpeed]

I have mine listed on eBay and craigslist, or willing to trade for a 135i, if interested PST.

[Hectik1]

After reading countless threads about causes/blown motor threads I have came to this conclusion. The DISI engine was not made to create a ton of power. Mazda did it in the past with the MSP engine. It can handle a little more power before the engine becomes a real liablilty. That is regardless of fuel pumps, tunes, oil fixes, etc. The engine is designed to handle a certain kind of power. That is all. Driving style, etc has nothing to do with it either. Mazda designed the motor to be efficient, powerful, and most important SAFE. I highly doubt Mazda spent millions of dollars on an engine that is going to fail. If that was the case there would be a lot more blown engines in MS6s and especially CX7s since there A LOT on the road now.

What I get out of these threads (and most of you should too) is if you are modding (past basic intake mods) don't expect the engine to be able to handle too much power without some consequences. The DISI turbo engine is what it is. Very good in stock form (or very close).

[Thestaplegunkid]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch Yeah, that's the problem right there. When I post my thread as to the biggest contribution to why these small amount of engines blew everyone is going to go on the defense and proclaim that they did everything that accordingly, that they're good drivers, etc. And in the end the majority will still disagree with me and look into lalaland for reasons why engines blow- that's what I see happening. Truth of the matter is- the reason when I say it's caused by the end-user- it's NOT due to crazy driving or "bitch" driving as some of you have put it. It's a car, a machine, it's made to go WOT and it's made to go part throttle. Speculation and theories that we shouldn't drive this car on part throttle and that we should go into boost here and there during long drives (40min-1hour?) drives- is just nonsense. You couldn't have said so better yourself "I never had a problem with my car, until it blew the fuck up one day" yup. That's because the problem is caused over time. Obviously that is not to say that if you do stress the limitations of this engine it's not going to snap a rod or seize the piston because it will just like with any other engine. The problem here is the fact that it's DI- it makes the whole platform more sensitive as your PI platform- give or take. I guess they did, huh? Who said I disprove ALL other theories? I'm sorry but unless I know you personally and/or I know you're an certified automotive/engine technician with experience under your belt- majority of what was and is being posted is nothing but online kids "talk" I guess that's the reason why my buddies never join online forums or those who do don't get involved in threads like this because they know kids like to talk- which is nothing but talk. You got people who install a SRI and they think their automotive technicians/experts. Regardless, I know it's going to be nothing more then that. Bottom line is you know what it all comes down too? I don't have to say a word that I perhaps may be correct- I honestly don't. In the next few months more engines will blow- especially those who currently are on the verge of breaking due to damage already done not by driving like a maniac or a "bitch" but something else- which I don't care to mention yet. Regardless, seeing how some people are extremely thick headed and when you "speak the truth" you get nothing but bitch on because they can't accept the truth I guess I'll sit back for the next few cold harsh winter month- watch a few good amount of engines blow and turn and look at mine and know that it's running just perfectly fine- till the day I really do push it beyond it's stock operating tolerances- but why would I do that? Should have build the engine first folks.

This grand standing you're currently engaged in... with promises of your ultimate "thread" that you're currently trying to organize and put into simple terms we online folks can understand, sounds alot like the "online kids talk" you mentioned.

Your tag is an indication of this as well.

I do find it entertaining how you speak as if you are the one true automotive god.

[QuickSpool]

What about looking into the Volvo 2.5 I5 motor out of the euro Focus RS, It should be a somewhat easy swap as we have the same platform.

[NRSpeed]

Ive heard someone was doing a B18 swap into a MS3, that should keep you safe.

Here you go. And it was an epic thread for a few hours.

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by Laloosh shit, are we related? some who accepts things for what the are......amazing

LOL, are we?

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch ...Snotty, arrogant? No, not me. You got me all wrong. There's quite a few good people on here with good knoweldge and there's the other bunch who jump on the horse dick wagon and do nothing but talk shit because they think they know it all- those are the turds I don't want to share anything with because in all honestly half the shit they say is pulled straight out their asses. ...

Here's your mirror.


Looking forward to your thread.

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by Thestaplegunkid This grand standing you're currently engaged in... with promises of your ultimate "thread" that you're currently trying to organize and put into simple terms we online folks can understand, sounds alot like the "online kids talk" you mentioned. Your tag is an indication of this as well. I do find it entertaining how you speak as if you are the one true automotive god.

No bro you still don't get it. For once step of that high horse of yours and please come back down to earth. It's common sense and not rocket science. Honestly, I don't care what you think of my attitude on this forum but when I hear stupid shit over and over I just can't help myself but speak my mind. Think what you think, think what you've been thought to think- I don't care, I honestly don't- in the end, all I know is that I'm taking care of my car the way it should be taking care of, did everything according to what I know and I have absolutley no fear in beating on it- because eh, that's what it was made for.

You want to know how my car is going to blow if it ever will (which it never will? lol) only if I do something stupid- like one of the things being, if I really do push this car way beyond its operating tolerances but that's impossible.

Originally Posted by QuickSpool What about looking into the Volvo 2.5 I5 motor out of the euro Focus RS, It should be a somewhat easy swap as we have the same platform.

Why swap? So you can blow that engine too And create paranoia on this forum about their I5 engine being weak as well? It's not the engine. Engine is fine. Wake up, any engine is going to blow if you slap on bolt ons! Why is that so hard for you to understand? That's half the reason half of you blew to begin with- common sense dictates that if you're going for heavy power (like Lenny himself said it) build the engine first.

Only the foolish will be left with a hole in their motor when they think bolt ons first; engine build second.

[KoukiS14]

I have the solution right here.

[Lex]

Would be nice if this once again was kept on topic and personal lamentation, B18 swaps, 12 inch dicks, etc etc were kept out to actually leave the thread meaningful. If I or anyone wants to add any pertinent info, it's useless because it gets buried under a lot of shit.

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by Lex Would be nice if this once again was kept on topic and personal lamentation, B18 swaps, 12 inch dicks, etc etc were kept out to actually leave the thread meaningful. If I or anyone wants to add any pertinent info, it's useless because it gets berried under a lot of shit.

I am keeping it on topic. I'm telling you the obvious. You're going about it the wrong way; you're not going to solve anything. I guarantee you; you'll be here in the same place months from now. This issue is such a minimal one and everyone is looking over it- especially you looking into the land of abyss as to why this shit is the way it is. Pitty. Have fun.

But whatever I'm done with these threads keep doing your deep research as to why these engines blow- but all you're doing is wasting your time.

Now I'll go and enjoy my ms3 that will never blow.

[smakdown61]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch No bro you still don't get it. For once step of that high horse of yours and please come back down to earth. It's common sense and not rocket science. Honestly, I don't care what you think of my attitude on this forum but when I hear stupid shit over and over I just can't help myself but speak my mind. Think what you think, think what you've been thought to think- I don't care, I honestly don't- in the end, all I know is that I'm taking care of my car the way it should be taking care of, did everything according to what I know and I have absolutley no fear in beating on it- because eh, that's what it was made for. You want to know how my car is going to blow if it ever will (which it never will? lol) only if I do something stupid- like one of the things being, if I really do push this car way beyond its operating tolerances but that's impossible. Why swap? So you can blow that engine too And create paranoia on this forum about their I5 engine being weak as well? It's not the engine. Engine is fine. Wake up, any engine is going to blow if you slap on bolt ons! Why is that so hard for you to understand? That's half the reason half of you blew to begin with- common sense dictates that if you're going for heavy power (like Lenny himself said it) build the engine first. Only the foolish will be left with a hole in their motor when they think bolt ons first; engine build second.

Um, the T5 in the Focus RS has consistently taken over 400whp on the stock block with no problems. The "any engine will blow with bolt-ons" is also complete bullshit. I can't even count b/c the number is so high how many stage 2 subies and evos run around fully bolted with no issues. Hell my buddy ran a gt35 on a stock STI block for the track without issues for 2 years. Do some research before you make statements that make you look like an idiot. The fact is, there is a design flaw in this motor. Whether the flaw itself is in the DI system or whatever,

Of course, you will spew shit like "we are going beyond its tolerances". Let me tell you a little thing about mechanical engineering. You don't build a 260hp motor to withstand only 280hp. Its called a safety factor. At a MINIMUM you want to design with a safety factor of three. As in, spec everything to withstand at least 3 times the stress/force/fatigue that you believe will take place under normal operating conditions. Now, that doesn't mean 3x the hp I know, but there is no way in hell with simple bolt-ons and a tune we should be anywhere close to the design safety factor. What does that mean? It means the rods aren't the problem, there is something else causing shit to break.

The MSP motor btw was NOT redesigned specifically for the MSP. It was basically an N/A protege motor with a turbo slapped on.

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by smakdown61 Um, the T5 in the Focus RS has consistently taken over 400whp on the stock block with no problems. The "any engine will blow with bolt-ons" is also complete bullshit. I can't even count b/c the number is so high how many stage 2 subies and evos run around fully bolted with no issues. Hell my buddy ran a gt35 on a stock STI block for the track without issues for 2 years. Do some research before you make statements that make you look like an idiot. The fact is, there is a design flaw in this motor. Whether the flaw itself is in the DI system or whatever, Of course, you will spew shit like "we are going beyond its tolerances". Let me tell you a little thing about mechanical engineering. You don't build a 260hp motor to withstand only 280hp. Its called a safety factor. At a MINIMUM you want to design with a safety factor of three. As in, spec everything to withstand at least 3 times the stress/force/fatigue that you believe will take place under normal operating conditions. Now, that doesn't mean 3x the hp I know, but there is no way in hell with simple bolt-ons and a tune we should be anywhere close to the design safety factor. What does that mean? It means the rods aren't the problem, there is something else causing shit to break.

I ain't even going to bothering reading half that bullshit. Enjoy your blown speed3's. That's why I got 360WHP & 390TQ on mine with no issues. Have fun because all of you know better and I just spew bullshit. Enjoy.

[clos561]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch I ain't even going to bothering reading half that bullshit. Enjoy your blown speed3's. That's why I got 360WHP & 390TQ on mine with no issues. Have fun because all of you know better and I just spew bullshit. Enjoy.

all your doing is spewing bulshit in here about how your gona make a thread that will explain everything. so far uve said nothing productive except that people bolt up and think its all good (we know that)

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by clos561 all your doing is spewing bulshit in here about how your gona make a thread that will explain everything. so far uve said nothing productive except that people bolt up and think its all good (we know that)

Yeah.

[Nitr0EngiE]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch I ain't even going to bothering reading half that bullshit. Enjoy your blown speed3's. That's why I got 360WHP & 390TQ on mine with no issues. Have fun because all of you know better and I just spew bullshit. Enjoy.

I vote we ban fags like this, he prolly dont even own a speed

better yet here we go: http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...lveinch-38692/

[Deadman]

Originally Posted by Nitr0EngiE I vote we ban fags like this, he prolly dont even own a speed

ROFL +10 :p

[fjames]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch Have fun because all of you know better and I just spew bullshit. Enjoy.

Does that mean you're not going to make your thread? I like learning, and if you've got something to say, I hope you will. If you don't, then all the talk-talk in this thread wasn't just a waste of my time, it was a waste of yours.

[Thestaplegunkid]

Well shit.... I sure hope he doesn't take all his knowledge and just fuck off..... That would be a travesty folks.

Oh well.

[kgb]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch I am keeping it on topic. I'm telling you the obvious. You're going about it the wrong way; you're not going to solve anything. I guarantee you; you'll be here in the same place months from now. This issue is such a minimal one and everyone is looking over it- especially you looking into the land of abyss as to why this shit is the way it is. Pitty. Have fun. But whatever I'm done with these threads keep doing your deep research as to why these engines blow- but all you're doing is wasting your time. Now I'll go and enjoy my ms3 that will never blow.

Sounds like your discouraging us from finding the 'real' problem...do you work for Mazda???!!! J/K....

So look, let me play devil's advocate and let's say that ya, your right, adding bolt-ons to any stock engine will severely shorten the life of it, some more than others. My question to you is this, why don't you approach someone like Lex and say your peace but realize that even if you are correct, encourage the research to find band-aid solutions or small fixes that will help us run a little more safely at higher HP even if you know the real answer. Fact is, hardly anyone is going to build an engine so let’s at least help find answers to make the engine a little safer.

Do you get where I’m coming at? Let’s agree to disagree, present and encourage the each other's theories (in this case yours and Lex’s), and then the people can decide what they want to do with the available facts.

[Lex]

12 inch and all others. I am not here to discourage you or anyone else from being creative, investigating, and discovering. This is not a personal attack to the speed community or anyone. Have something to say that is not related - make your own thread. Simple as that.

I know people feel what I am posting is discouraging but ignorance is not bliss. The more we know, the better we can address issues. This is nothing to cry about - I am sorry if you're offended, sorry you don't like my ideas, feel free to challenge them.

But don't be an idiot about it coming in here and accusing me of not being this and that or saying you have an answer and that I am wasting my time. What will you achieve? I can just say fuck it and walk away. Would that brighten your day sunshine? Would you feel less threatened or annoyed that someone is looking into a real issue with this platform? If the only solution people come up with is to sell the car, this is not the thread to discuss it in.

I am glad that people in the community are helping out with pictures, parts, info, questions, and even valid criticism. As for the other usual shit flinging I am not going to entertain or even respond to. I just don't have the time.

With that, mods, if you see fit, please clean this thread up leaving only the relevant discussion and let's please keep it on topic. I can't even answer people's questions because they are so buried in BS. And 12 inch, feel free to contribute, I have nothing personal against you, I just wish that the 3 pages of BS could have been avoided by you stating what you know and discussing that instead.

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by kgb Do you work for Mazda???!!! J/K.... So look, let me play devil's advocate and let's say that ya, your right, adding bolt-ons to any stock engine will severely shorten the life of it, some more than others. My question to you is this, why don't you approach someone like Lex and say your peace but realize that even if you are correct, encourage the research to find band-aid solutions or small fixes that will help us run a little more safely at higher HP even if you know the real answer. Fact is, hardly anyone is going to build an engine so let’s at least help find answers to make the engine a little safer. Do you get where I’m coming at? Let’s agree to disagree, present and encourage the each other's theories (in this case you and Lex’s), and then the people can decide what they want to do with the available facts.

Thank you! for the civil response and you're totally right. I apologize to have run off course with the shit that I have posted but those weren't my intentions and shit got carried away; which led to ranting and bitching. I apologize for ruining the thread LEX made to help others as again those weren't my intentions. I'll put my "asshole" ways aside and make the necessary contribution to this forum as its user.

Back on topic- I'm going to be contacting most of the users who blew their engines to get the exact details I need- which this alone will take few days as I do not have all that time at my disposal. Once I get their details (if they're willing to answer truthfully- as I said- one critical element (there are few especially since stock engines blew) for these engine failure is user contribution- no it's not whether or not the car was driven hard or in "bitch" mode) I'll post everything in detail and in reference to my own speed3's performance and how well it has been behaving since day one.

Sound good? So give me a few days you guys!

[rodrigo]

wow , come in to read up the latest news om Lex's theories and I see "days of our lives" wtf

lets get some data rolling or just dont post please

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by Lex 12 inch and all others. I am not here to discourage you or anyone else from being creative, investigating, and discovering. This is not a personal attack to the speed community or anyone. Have something to say that is not related - make your own thread. Simple as that. I know people feel what I am posting is discouraging but ignorance is not bliss. The more we know, the better we can address issues. This is nothing to cry about - I am sorry if you're offended, sorry you don't like my ideas, feel free to challenge them. But don't be an idiot about it coming in here and accusing me of not being this and that or saying you have an answer and that I am wasting my time. What will you achieve? I can just say fuck it and walk away. Would that brighten your day sunshine? Would you feel less threatened or annoyed that someone is looking into a real issue with this platform? If the only solution people come up with is to sell the car, this is not the thread to discuss it in. I am glad that people in the community are helping out with pictures, parts, info, questions, and even valid criticism. As for the other usual shit flinging I am not going to entertain or even respond to. I just don't have the time. With that, mods, if you see fit, please clean this thread up leaving only the relevant discussion and let's please keep it on topic. I can't even answer people's questions because they are so buried in BS. And 12 inch, feel free to contribute, I have nothing personal against you, I just wish that the 3 pages of BS could have been avoided by you stating what you know and discussing that instead.

Yes, I went of on a tangent and I apologize and bullshit could have been avoided. I didn't mean to offend you or discourage you or tell you that what you're doing here is useless because it's not and in all honestly I appreciate the work you're putting in to save these guys from blowing.

I apologize once again for ruining your thread. Shit gets miss-said and the fact that majority of us don't know each other in person really don't understand how we really mean to say certain things and interpret what's been posted on the negative side especially if someone posts something and sounds like it's "pun-intended"

Originally Posted by Lenny127 wow , come in to read up the latest news om Lex's theories and I see "days of our lives" wtf lets get some data rolling or just dont post please

I'll get you the data, I'm just hoping the DH or AP could log what I'm hoping it can otherwise you'll just have to take my word

[Nitr0EngiE]

Originally Posted by trickytwelveinch Yes, I went of on a tangent and I apologize and bullshit could have been avoided. I didn't mean to offend you or discourage you or tell you that what you're doing here is useless because it's not and in all honestly I appreciate the work you're putting in to save these guys from blowing. I apologize once again for ruining your thread. Shit gets miss-said and the fact that majority of us don't know each other in person really don't understand how we really mean to say certain things and interpret what's been posted on the negative side especially if someone posts something and sounds like it's "pun-intended" I'll get you the data, I'm just hoping the DH or AP could log what I'm hoping it can otherwise you'll just have to take my word

I am impressed, thank you 12"

[Uranium9v]

Mods need to clean this thread up and remove the drama. It WAS something helpful, now just a drama filled waste of reading.

[itzl0l]

i look forward to reading your post 12"

[trickytwelveinch]

Originally Posted by itzl0l i look forward to reading your post 12"

Thanks, let me just get this shit organized it might take longer then expected as I'm really busy and I'll make that thread asap!

[badams118]

My engine was over heating pretty bad right before I sold. This would go a long way to explaining the excessive heat. I bet I was easily within 1k miles of losing a rod.